The D3 boys 1600 would get my nomination.
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Would that be because the only one who ran a good/ smart race was the kid that won? Horrible strategies and tactics by everyone else. Is that what makes it the race of the day. The only race that was worse was the D1 boys 1600. Again, only the winner ran that one well.
Would that be because the only one who ran a good/ smart race was the kid that won? Horrible strategies and tactics by everyone else. Is that what makes it the race of the day. The only race that was worse was the D1 boys 1600. Again, only the winner ran that one well.
Would that be because the only one who ran a good/ smart race was the kid that won? Horrible strategies and tactics by everyone else. Is that what makes it the race of the day. The only race that was worse was the D1 boys 1600. Again, only the winner ran that one well.
Psychodad, from my perspective there were several kids in that race that ran well, exceeded their expected places and ran good times. In what way did the athletes other than the winner all fail to run well?
I was going to go through it man per man, but the video is no longer in the link and hasn't been for a while.
The time was slow for a state championship race IMO. Someone can correct me, but this has to be one of the slowest times is 30 to 40 years or so to win it. My guess is that in a normal year the winning time might get you 5th. Good years it's probably more like 8th or 9th. It was a beautiful day, so temp or weather did not make for slow times. If you can win at 5:00, great, but you better win. Right?
The East Canton kid controlled the race well, but both he and the 3rd place kid from FL kicked too hard too soon. Can't go to that last gear that soon. The winner from FL picked up the pieces beautifully. Only 4 of the kids exceeded their seed times from the Regional and just barely. It's the state meet, that should be your best effort. Seed times should be expected to be slower than what you run at the state right?
I think 3 kids ran faster times at the Regional than the winning time and none of them were the winner.
A couple of kids made big moves then backed off of them. Nonsense IMO. Waste of energy.
I know this is harsh and they are just kids, but it was not a well run race by probably 14 out of 18 runners. Some of the kids only bettered their expected place because the 9-18 kids ran way below their seed/potential.
This is almost a textbook case for me of watching kids running and not racing.
Again, might be the slowest time since it was the 1600 m to win. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that. (I'm speculating just off of experience)
Were these the worst kids ever in the 1600? Are they not trained properly? Don't they race enough?
In D1, again, If you are going to crawl around for 3 laps and make it a sit and kick, you better be able to outkick everyone. If you can't, then you need to do something to take the better kickers legs out from under them. So many kids got themselves boxed in and gave themselves no chance.
I was impressed by the winners and thought the others should have done something else to break up the pack.
I thought the Shelby kids were impressive. They ran nearly flawlessly.
Can't ever be critical of a race winner. Especially STATE CHAMP!
I'm interested to know why others thought this was a well run race by anyone other than the winner? Always good to know what others think and why they think it. Soph finishing 4th is pretty good, I'll give you that too.
Anyone that knows my stance on times, knows that I have time way down on my list of things that makes a race. However, just giving it the eye test led me to think this might have been historically slow. Mr. Slippery confirmed that it was. Time is a measuring stick. If this race was won in 4:14, my opinion of it would be different. Not as much a kid can do at that pace.
In the boys D1 race I felt that Garner Wallace from Pick Central in particular had a very nice race (and a nice meet throwing in championships in the 4x800 and 4x400) with a PR and a 4th place.
As a rising junior, he'll be someone to watch in the future. I believe he plays football in the fall. If he decided to switch to XC he would have a good chance of getting that 1600 time even lower.
On the subject of track athletes that play football - does anyone know what is going on with Darby's Malachi McGill? I was expecting some big things from him after he won the 800 title as a frosh. This past season he dabbled a bit in the throws but I don't know if he has approached his 400/800 performances from his 9th grade year.
Why would running CC make you faster in the 1600. It's months apart. My CC season never carried all the way over to track.
Why would running CC make you faster in the 1600. It's months apart. My CC season never carried all the way over to track.
Heck, play basketball too and show up March ready to roll and I'm pretty sure we can come up with a plan to improve on that 4:16.
I think that football has some running in it.
I believe Max LeClair from Davidson also had a PR with his 5th place finish.
One of the first things I noticed at the meet was LeClair placing after finishing 5th at regional.
I am not sure how people can criticize high school kids racing strategies. If the entire field is similar in talent whoever leads and pushes the pace is just setting up others. In a level field a frontrunner cannot just run away. To think someone out of the pack can just push the pace and change the outcome for themself is silly. The winner and the placers were the people who stayed tucked in the pack until late in the race.
There were kids that got caught in the pack with nowhere to go and got eaten up and spit out of the back.
You can push the pace without setting up others.
There is no way that all 18 guys in that field were sit and kick runners where it was in their best interest to let it get to a 400 meter race. There had to be someone where it was better for them to take it out hard and take the kickers legs out from under them. I always tried to make my races a 1 or 2 person race. I was good at many changes of pace and I would not let people get comfortable. I ran with a guy that could run a 4:13 1600 but could not come close to 2:00 for 800. He just went from the gun. He would have had a lot to say about the pace if he was in that race. You don't just run around doing what everyone else does.