2022-23 Free Agency

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Free agency is underway! (Understandable if Reds and Guardians fans weren’t tuned in to this.)

The first big deal came to light yesterday, with the Mets extending closer Edwin Diaz with a monster 5-year, $102 million deal, with a player opt-out option after 2025 and a club option for 2028. I believe he also got a no-trade clause at least up through the player option.

I believe the $20.4 million average annual value resets the closer market, as I believe Liam Hendriks and Raisel Iglesias were among the top earners at closer, but not to the $20 million threshold.

The Mets had better hope Diaz resembles Mariano Rivera or Trevor Hoffman; otherwise this is a deal that could end up looking ugly in the future.

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In other news, Carlos Rodon opted out of his second year with the Giants, so he’s back on the market and figures to get a longer deal this time around.

He’s always going to be a risk due to his injury history, but on the flip side, those injuries means there’s not as much mileage on his arm as some other guys who’ve been around for several years. I’d love the White Sox to take a run at getting him back. They really missed the 2021 version of Rodon this past season. Pairing Cease and Rodon at the top of the rotation would be a nice tandem, with Lynn and Kopech slotting in behind them.

I doubt the Sox will re-sign Johnny Cueto, and Lucas Giolito is a question mark. He has one year left before free agency, but given his declining results in 2021 and 2022, it’s not crazy to think he could be moved this offseason. The scuttlebutt is that Garrett Crochet is going to come back as a potential starter. He missed all season after Tommy John surgery, but should be ready for 2023.

In unrelated news, the shortstop market will be interesting. Xander Bogaerts, Carlos Correa, Trea Turner and Dansby Swanson are free agents. I’d be surprised if Turner and Bogaerts aren’t back with the Dodgers and Red Sox. Those teams should be able to pony up.

It would be reasonable to think the Yankees get desperate and sign one of these guys, in spite of their system having highly regarded shortstop prospects who aren’t far away.

Dansby Swanson is pretty clearly #4 of these four guys, so he might have to wait it out unless he and Atlanta are both motivated to make a deal happen. How much money is Atlanta willing to spend?

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We all know the Reds will make at least one very very dumb signing. Only thing up in the air is how bad it’ll hurt the future.
 

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In other news, Carlos Rodon opted out of his second year with the Giants, so he’s back on the market and figures to get a longer deal this time around.

He’s always going to be a risk due to his injury history, but on the flip side, those injuries means there’s not as much mileage on his arm as some other guys who’ve been around for several years. I’d love the White Sox to take a run at getting him back. They really missed the 2021 version of Rodon this past season. Pairing Cease and Rodon at the top of the rotation would be a nice tandem, with Lynn and Kopech slotting in behind them.

I doubt the Sox will re-sign Johnny Cueto, and Lucas Giolito is a question mark. He has one year left before free agency, but given his declining results in 2021 and 2022, it’s not crazy to think he could be moved this offseason. The scuttlebutt is that Garrett Crochet is going to come back as a potential starter. He missed all season after Tommy John surgery, but should be ready for 2023.

In unrelated news, the shortstop market will be interesting. Xander Bogaerts, Carlos Correa, Trea Turner and Dansby Swanson are free agents. I’d be surprised if Turner and Bogaerts aren’t back with the Dodgers and Red Sox. Those teams should be able to pony up.

It would be reasonable to think the Yankees get desperate and sign one of these guys, in spite of their system having highly regarded shortstop prospects who aren’t far away.

Dansby Swanson is pretty clearly #4 of these four guys, so he might have to wait it out unless he and Atlanta are both motivated to make a deal happen. How much money is Atlanta willing to spend?

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I think you are right - I would bet money that Correa is a Yankee next year.

I really like Swanson; you are right, he will be 4th in this pecking order, but he is a heck of a ballplayer with a lot of upside.
 

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With former Dodger Tyler Anderson signing with the Angels for 3 years, $39 million, it sets up an oddity in this day and age where the Angels now have four lefties in their rotation to go along with Shohei Ohtani: Tyler Anderson, Patrick Sandoval, Jose Suarez, Reid Detmers.

Joc Pederson agreeing to the one-year qualifying offer with the Giants takes a potentially coveted lefty outfield bat off the market. That can only help other similar options like Michael Conforto and Brandon Nimmo.

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Yesterday was a bittersweet day watching Jose Abreu officially gone from the White Sox, especially to sign with the AL powerhouse that knocked the Sox out of the 2021 playoffs.

He goes down as one of the best players and leaders in White Sox history, holding down the fort at 1B for nine seasons. The Sox have been incredibly fortunate to more or less go from Frank Thomas to Paul Konerko to Jose Abreu at 1B for the last 30+ years.

All that said, he turns 36 this offseason and the Sox had to clear the logjam of 1B/DH types somehow. This leaves Andrew Vaughn to play his natural 1B position instead of being miscast as an outfielder.

Hopefully Eloy Jimenez will mostly DH and play LF sparingly. The Sox figure to bring up Cuban prospect Oscar Colas to play RF next year, so they still need to target a LF, ideally a lefty since they have Vaughn, Robert, Eloy and Tim Anderson as righties.

The Sox signed Mike Clevinger over the weekend. It’s a good signing if he stays healthy. So the rotation looks like Cease, Lynn, Kopech, Clevinger and Giolito for now.

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The top of the Astros lineup looks something like:

2B Altuve
SS Pena
DH Alvarez
3B Bregman
RF Tucker
1B Abreu

We’ll see who they end up with at catcher and at the other OF spots, but that’s looking like a very strong lineup.

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The top of the Astros lineup looks something like:

2B Altuve
SS Pena
DH Alvarez
3B Bregman
RF Tucker
1B Abreu

We’ll see who they end up with at catcher and at the other OF spots, but that’s looking like a very strong lineup.

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Wow. I had not paid attention to free agency. As a Reds fan, it is futile.

The Astros have made their scorched earth rebuild pay off big. That is quite a lineup.
 

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Say what you will about the Astros, they are in it to win it. Now are they going to go get some more pitching? Verlander can't pitch forever.
 

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Yesterday was a bittersweet day watching Jose Abreu officially gone from the White Sox, especially to sign with the AL powerhouse that knocked the Sox out of the 2021 playoffs.

He goes down as one of the best players and leaders in White Sox history, holding down the fort at 1B for nine seasons. The Sox have been incredibly fortunate to more or less go from Frank Thomas to Paul Konerko to Jose Abreu at 1B for the last 30+ years.

All that said, he turns 36 this offseason and the Sox had to clear the logjam of 1B/DH types somehow. This leaves Andrew Vaughn to play his natural 1B position instead of being miscast as an outfielder.

Hopefully Eloy Jimenez will mostly DH and play LF sparingly. The Sox figure to bring up Cuban prospect Oscar Colas to play RF next year, so they still need to target a LF, ideally a lefty since they have Vaughn, Robert, Eloy and Tim Anderson as righties.

The Sox signed Mike Clevinger over the weekend. It’s a good signing if he stays healthy. So the rotation looks like Cease, Lynn, Kopech, Clevinger and Giolito for now.

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The White Sox are good on paper, but they were that way last season. I feel they were one of the most disappointing teams in 22. That division was their's for the taking. My guess is it will be them and Cleveland battling it out.
 

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The starting pitcher dominoes should start to fall fast now. This is obviously a huge get for the Rangers but could just as easily blow up in their face given deGrom’s injury history.

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Everyone knew that DeGrom would get $35M plus per year - he is the best. But 5 years? He is 34 and super injury prone. Seems crazy to me.

That is a lot to pay for 75 innings per year, even if the innings are excellent.
 

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Everyone knew that DeGrom would get $35M plus per year - he is the best. But 5 years? He is 34 and super injury prone. Seems crazy to me.

That is a lot to pay for 75 innings per year, even if the innings are excellent.
Agreed. The Mets might end up with a better “bargain” with their deal today for Justin Verlander: Two years, $86 million ($43M per year), with a possible $35M vesting option for 2025.

I’d still be a little leery of fronting my rotation with Verlander and Scherzer at their advanced ages. The ceiling is crazy high of course, but at some point Father Time has to start catching up with these guys.

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Trea Turner to the Phillies. 11 years, $300 million.

So now the Phillies go Turner, Schwarber, Realmuto, Harper, Hoskins, Castellanos at the top, with Alec Bohm, Brandon Marsh and Bryson Stott likely rounding out the starting nine.

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Trea Turner to the Phillies. 11 years, $300 million.

So now the Phillies go Turner, Schwarber, Realmuto, Harper, Hoskins, Castellanos at the top, with Alec Bohm, Brandon Marsh and Bryson Stott likely rounding out the starting nine.

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Wow. They won't need pitching.
 

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Trea Turner to the Phillies. 11 years, $300 million.

So now the Phillies go Turner, Schwarber, Realmuto, Harper, Hoskins, Castellanos at the top, with Alec Bohm, Brandon Marsh and Bryson Stott likely rounding out the starting nine.

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Buy buy buy...and the only reason they even got to the playoffs last year is the newly expanded spot moved them in, and the Breweres collapse.
 
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