By all means, please be the first to stop.
The garbage product comment was a shot at the Big Ten but you obviously lack reading comprehension.Lol @ garbage product. Why are some of you OSU fans anyway? Like we have some historic tradition of stacking Natty’s here or something. Lol. Please place your contextual evidence here for how this team/coach is really any different than any others in the past 50 years. Feel free to head over and swing from UNC/Duke/Kansas’s sack.
Obviously, you are an OSU bball novice as under Matta OSU had 5 BIG titles, 3 elite 8 appearances, 2 FF's one NCAA runner up. OSU has 11 FF"s (one vacated) 6th most of all NCAA teams. BTW OSU has 27 BIG BBall Championships combined 22 titles and 5 conference tourney titles most of any BIG school (3 vacated). Only under Holtman has expectations dropped to the point where making it to the NCAA tourney is the ceiling.Lol @ garbage product. Why are some of you OSU fans anyway? Like we have some historic tradition of stacking Natty’s here or something. Lol. Please place your contextual evidence here for how this team/coach is really any different than any others in the past 50 years. Feel free to head over and swing from UNC/Duke/Kansas’s sack.
I hope they lose out. If they luck into some wins it could justify that affirmative action hire Gene Smith into keeping him. Also, I do not support Gene becoming the Big Ten commissioner. That would be awful for this conference, go get the ACC commissioner.
Most likely the only way Smith fires Holtmann, unfortunately. BIG Ten Titles should be the expectation, not the exception.
I’m not a novice, and am aware of all you have posted. I’m speaking more objectively about expectations that some folks in this thread seem to have. For example, please read some of Sparty’s posts trashing OSU in the CFB thread. His measure of success would seem to indicate even a Final Four appearance isn’t good enough. And that’s fine. But if that’s the bar, we haven’t hit that in a looooooong time.
Whatever, dude. You’ve been trashing the coach, players, conference & administration all year. This includes CFB as well. That said, it’s actually kind of entertaining to watch you all meltdown on a continual basis. Lol.
15 day meltdown is impressive, to say the least.
Under Matta OSU won 5 BIG titles 2 FF 4's, so it is very possible to win and win big at OSU in bball. I am not going to get into whether Matta should have been fired or not but Holtman has not won a league title anywhere (losing record at Gardner Webb) and I don't think he is going to win one at OSU anytime soon. However OSU is stuck with him because I doubt Smith is capable of admitting he made a mistake in hiring Holtmann.I’m not a novice, and am aware of all you have posted. I’m speaking more objectively about expectations that some folks in this thread seem to have. For example, please read some of Sparty’s posts trashing OSU in the CFB thread. His measure of success would seem to indicate even a Final Four appearance isn’t good enough. And that’s fine. But if that’s the bar, we haven’t hit that in a looooooong time.
Who said it’s not possible to win at OSU? Lol.
I have no faith in Gene. With a competent AD Holtmann would be gone but Gene is a clown and a garbage AD
If they would win it would be the opposite. All I’ve seen is a lot of losing in basketball and big game losses in football.
Please place your contextual evidence here for how this team/coach is really any different than any others in the past 50 years.
I’m talking about NCAA titles. Matta win any of those?
Just curious here. If they can Holtmann, who's on your list?
Nate Oats, Pat Kelsey, Brad Stevens (Yes you absolutely make that call, gauge his interest and offer him a blank check and full control), Billy Donovan, and yes even Chris Beard if he can clear his name. Need a grand slam hire, that is the list and should not be looking anywhere else. OSU has the resources to get these guys but the problem is our clown AD holding us back.
Oats would def. be no. 1, Stevens is not leaving Celtics, Billy Donovan would be great but aint happening. I agree with Beard, but OSU won't touch him, he'll end up at an SEC school. Fred Hoiberg should be an option sure he has struggled at Nebraska, but it is Nebraska not sure why he took that job and did not wait for something better. Was very successful at Iowa State.
Curious who should be the new AD that would save OSU sports?
Oats took over a bad program at Bama not the same situation with Holtmann at OSU, Holtmann's best year was his 1st with Matta's recruits: Jasean Tate and KBD. BTW what is Bammy's record this year?
Yes, Oats is a Midwest guy and there is no comparison between Alabama and Ohio State basketball tradition. Absolute NO to Fred Hoiberg, we need to get guys that have had elite success at every stop. Like I said this can’t be anything less than a grand slam hire. If OSU could pony up the money then there isn’t a guy out there who would not at least listen
Not quite sure I just know Gene Smith has been awful. I know Jim Tressel has been thrown around which would be great but he just retired as the YSU president and he’s getting old.
Bama is definitely excellent thus far this year, and I concede that Oats seems like a good coach. My point is he went from 26-7 year two, to 19-14 and almost missed the tourney year three. You and your kind of OSU fan would have wanted him fired for 19-14, you can't deny it.
He's been a good coach, sure. But at least Holtmann doesn't have any charged murderers on the roster. Lol.