Seemed like this was a matter of “when”, rather than “if.” Very sad for the Bishops. I know everyone there close to the program were committed like hell to keeping 11-man alive, and they were tough as nails in week 10 last year as a 13-man crew.
I expect the MSL-Cardinal to stop sponsoring 11-man football as a league sport in three-to-five years. I agree about FCA, as I expect them to drop football and instead create a soccer program. Bad times for FCA, saw their best player transferred to BC. No way that Newark Catholic ditches the LCL, and Grandview although making sense supposedly is looking to phase out 11-man football themselves?
What I think is going to happen is the Cardinal just becomes a soccer conference, as six of the eight schools have the sport with there being an expectation that FCA eschews 11-man football in favor of 8-man along with adding soccer. The only school without soccer would ironically be the largest, BU. As for the remaining football programs in the Cardinal, BU and FC are committed to 11-man for the long term and I would expect GCC to stay committed with football as well. Not entirely sure where WC would fit in this down the road?
Ready/Grandview Hts has built into quit a Rivalry with 2 really tight games the last 2 years. Mid State rotates the league schedule every 2 years with the 1st league game goes to the last.I expect Ready to make a bounce back this year after the struggles of the past 4 years. They have some huge games on their schedule this year including Genoa Area, West Jeff, and St. Charles in non league games. I like the move of the Grandview/Ready game to Week 10 as this is a solid rivalry. Last year was a nailbiting loss to Grandview 17-16, the year prior it was a squeaker of a win for Ready by a score of 24-22.
I’m not saying you’re wrong: I just don’t personally agree. The whole point of the MSL’s restructuring in 2013 was so 11-man football could stay viable for all the programs in it. BU and FC have taken tremendous effort, energy and pride into ensuring their 11-man programs not only stay alive but resurge. I think the rest of the MSL-C owes it to them to keep making a strong, concerted effort to keeping 11-man alive.I think it would be great to see the Mid State step up and sponsor an 8 man division. It would certainly help the Mid State in the Cardinal Division and help Grandview Hts (Grandview Hts is playing 8 man in middle school).
I think it will take a league to make this move and I think you would find struggling schools with football numbers will be look at switching to 8 man.
High School Football being as popular as it is in Ohio it would take a league to take the lead and it would grow in popularity in Ohio.
Schools that drop football not only effect the players but effect the cheerleaders, band members, homecoming festivities and parent nights. A lot of schools sponsor events at football games- such as Alumni Night, Middle School Night, Hall of Fame Night and Military Night just to name a few. Schools switching to 8 man would allow for this to continue and allow for gate and concessions income to keep coming in on Friday Nights.
Any thoughts?
Thinking that Ready, Harvest or Whitehall will take the Ohio. FC gets the Cardinal, and probably another logjam at the top in the Buckeye.
Amanda will have another good year. Agreed that it will be between Teays and BC — Kuhns is poised to make a run for 1st team all Ohio. Question remains if FU can break a good year. The senior and junior classes are their best bet to get the Falcons above .500. FU is hungry but no telling if they have the horses to get Amanda or BC.
In the Cardinal it’s going to be BU and FC. Year 2 of Hurps at BU will be a good season. FC is loaded, they have a nice receiving corps to help Starcher out. They’ll get a lot of yards out of Krooner, Smith and Swartz. Lots of tools and weapons in that offense, I expect FC to have no problem moving the ball.
The difference between now and seven years ago for FU is the coaching. The current staff has the boys a lot more prepared and ready to play, but the talent is really lacking. Not a whole lot of skilled athletes to hold the ball on FU’s team the last couple years except for Wolfe and LaRock. Will note that Colin Woodside has been named backup center at UC. Logan Elm and Circleville will both struggle again.Yeah, Kuhns getting 1st Team All Ohio for two consecutive years would be a huge accomplishment for sure. BC is loaded with athletes but it'll be interesting to see if they can finally get past the size difference that TV presents each year. I really hope FU turns the corner with a winning season - it's been a while for that proud program. A little disappointed they don't play LU this year since that's normally a good rivalry game.
Good to hear Starcher will have some targets - he's come a long way over the last couple years.
Great to hear about Colin...great kid. Love seeing MSL kids excel at the next level. Heard Kuhns has 4-5 D1 offers already and should get more with a good year. Hope to see another good year for Starcher and FC. Man, they even get to play on that NEW turf @ LHS.
The MSL needs to start making some noise in the playoffs though. This year might be a good start.
We have seven home games this year, also. Went 3-0 on the turf last year - looks great!! Us/LHS and BC have the nicest stadiums in the MSL... HP and GCC have nice playing surfaces but meager seating/atmosphere.Great to hear about Colin...great kid. Love seeing MSL kids excel at the next level. Heard Kuhns has 4-5 D1 offers already and should get more with a good year. Hope to see another good year for Starcher and FC. Man, they even get to play on that NEW turf @ LHS.
The MSL needs to start making some noise in the playoffs though. This year might be a good start.
We want as many L2 points as possible. Them two playing Calvert doesn’t help the cause!Is GCC still open week 8? Tell them to get Tiffin Calvert on the horn. They need a game due to a team canceling their season. They may need Berne Union in week 7 too. Things are getting dicey out there with small schools.
Saw this as another thread topic and figured “why not?”
Best fanbases in the MSL?
Buckeye
1) Amanda
2) BC
3) HT
Cardinal
t1) BU - incredible broad community support across Berne Twp
t1) FC - hands down best student, alumni support and following
3) GCC
Ohio
1) Bishop Ready
2) Grandview Hts
3) Harvest Prep
Across the whole MSL...
1) Amanda
2) BC
3) Ready
4) FC
5) BU
6) Teays
7) HP
8) GCC
Saw this as another thread topic and figured “why not?”
Best fanbases in the MSL?
Buckeye
1) Amanda
2) BC
3) HT
Cardinal
t1) BU - incredible broad community support across Berne Twp
t1) FC - hands down best student, alumni support and following
3) GCC
Ohio
1) Bishop Ready
2) Grandview Hts
3) Harvest Prep
Across the whole MSL...
1) Amanda
2) BC
3) Ready
4) FC
5) BU
6) Teays
7) HP
8) GCC
I knew you were lurking in the rafters of the transition to the new software, Zunardo — had to get you to come out and take the bait, somehow! Hope all is well, Z. We, the MSL posting contingency across the JJHuddle/Yappi eras, miss the clichés and banter-acts... from Obetz to Rushville, and everywhere in between.Dock, just curious - how come you rank HT third in the Buckeye fan bases, but then you skip us for Teays in the overall MSL ranking?
I think "The Film" needs to launch an investigation into this discrepancy. I'm so miffed I just might skip the french fries on the visitors side when we travel to Amanda on Oct 18. Well, maybe not THAT miffed, lol.
Ready has by far the better alumni support between them, AC and BC. In my opinion, though, on a community level AC and BC are by far the best in the MSL - and that may be the product of them being larger, village/township based schools.I might be biased to move Ready above BC and Amanda but I would say you hit the nail on the head. Ready, Amanda, BC, and FC are the 4 most dedicated fan bases in the league.
I knew you were lurking in the rafters of the transition to the new software, Zunardo — had to get you to come out and take the bait, somehow! Hope all is well, Z. We, the MSL posting contingency across the JJHuddle/Yappi eras, miss the clichés and banter-acts... from Obetz to Rushville, and everywhere in between.
Surely you jest on the french fries missing. I predict the ACES will cut down the Rangers in the township! (Gotta keep the posting memory of huddle legend “creeksider” alive!)
Ready has by far the better alumni support between them, AC and BC. In my opinion, though, on a community level AC and BC are by far the best in the MSL - and that may be the product of them being larger, village/township based schools.
I will say, Ready’s fanbase at the 2013 Hartley game @ Bradley and Amanda’s support in Stark County were both equally impressive and bar-none the greatest fan supports I’ve seen in person of the MSL contingency.
The MSL-Cardinal, yes, the small school portion, would consistently have 15-20 pages of content each for football and basketball even toward its end. Handful of GCC, HP posters, a few Berne posters and even the (somewhat still extant) Fairview Inn / Amanda gas station crew of FC posters. And that’s the current MSL, not even counting the previous Cardinal iteration which had WJ’s awesome fan following, the LU posting contingency (“Midline Crisis” is still one of the best names I’ve ever seen”) and the sprinkles of posting between ripmeister and whatamunce (Grandview and L Heights.)Oh wow, I totally forgot about creeksider. Still really miss the Huddle. Central Ohio really had a lot of activity on there back in the day.