Clyde Frog
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Who wins it all: Big Blue Nation or Rock Chalk Jayhawk?
Why? The only way UK loses is if they choke. If both teams play their average game or better, UK wins easily.Very nervous about this game.
Why because of the one and dones? That is a rule put in place with the working relationship of the NBA/NCAA. There is nothing wrong with it. Would it have been bad for college basketball had the OSU team with Oden/Conley/Cook won it in 2007?For the good of college basketball, hopefully Kansas wins.
Nah man, it's cool if bennies favorite team whose school he didn't attend does it.Why because of the one and dones? That is a rule put in place with the working relationship of the NBA/NCAA. There is nothing wrong with it. Would it have been bad for college basketball had the OSU team with Oden/Conley/Cook won it in 2007?
That was the young high recruits team vs the veterans at Florida who stayed to win ANOTHER title.
I don't think this is true. In fact, the NCAA has nothing to do with the one and dones, it's the NBA players association. They are the ones who made the rule that a player can't enter the NBA draft until a year after he graduates from High School.Why because of the one and dones? That is a rule put in place with the working relationship of the NBA/NCAA. There is nothing wrong with it. Would it have been bad for college basketball had the OSU team with Oden/Conley/Cook won it in 2007?
That was the young high recruits team vs the veterans at Florida who stayed to win ANOTHER title.
+1 Can't wait for Thursday!Dont really care either way.
Go Reds!
IMO, Oden was really the only one who was a known one-and-done on that team coming into the season. Conley really played his stock up to lottery level throughout the season and Cook was a non-contributor who definitely needed another year but left because of disagreements with the coaching staff.Why because of the one and dones? That is a rule put in place with the working relationship of the NBA/NCAA. There is nothing wrong with it. Would it have been bad for college basketball had the OSU team with Oden/Conley/Cook won it in 2007?
That was the young high recruits team vs the veterans at Florida who stayed to win ANOTHER title.
Thanks for your valuable contribution, as always.Nah man, it's cool if bennies favorite team whose school he didn't attend does it.
Your opinions on their stock mean nothing. All that means is Coach Cal did a better job of getting more top level guys than even Matta. They still were 3 one and done guys going against a veteran Florida team.IMO, Oden was really the only one who was a known one-and-done on that team coming into the season. Conley really played his stock up to lottery level throughout the season and Cook was a non-contributor who definitely needed another year but left because of disagreements with the coaching staff.
Overall, I think the NCAA and NBA need to work out a "two or nothing" plan where players can once again go to the NBA right out of high school, but if they do decide to go to college, they have to stay for at least two years. MLB currently has a similar plan in place (though the requirement is three years).
:laugh: :laugh: You think the NBA cares about what the NCAA wants? You don't really think that the NCAA went to the NBA and asked if they could make a one and done rule so they could get the stars for a year, do you?You really think the NCAA didn't go to the NBA and ask for this as well? Highly doubt it. Technically it is the NBA that imposes the league for entry into their league. That is obvious. But the NCAA clearly wants these high profile guys to play at least one year. Heck the President of the NCAA was on tv saying he would love it if the NBA would make it 2 or 3 years.
Not even worth responding because you clearly can't read. I said the NBA ultimately makes the decisions but the NCAA does talk to the NBA about these things. While the NCAA doesn't have power, they do work with the NBA as a quasi minor league system.:laugh: :laugh: You think the NBA cares about what the NCAA wants? You don't really think that the NCAA went to the NBA and asked if they could make a one and done rule so they could get the stars for a year, do you?
I think there is a difference, especially considering Calipari's track record in comparison to Matta's, but I understand if you disagree or think it has something to do with bias. :shrug:Your opinions on their stock mean nothing. All that means is Coach Cal did a better job of getting more top level guys than even Matta. They still were 3 one and done guys going against a veteran Florida team.
It is the same thing and you just weren't mad about it then because it was Ohio State. In no way is this Kentucky team any worse than that OSU team in 2007 or any others that had 1 and done type players. Heck Jones and Lamb came back to win just like Barnes did for UNC. Both those guys had 1st round grades last year but they chose to come back as sophomores. And I would say Gilchrist got his stock way up through the year as well. Conley was a very highly rated recruit. It isn't like he came out of nowhere.
You said the one and done rule was put together by the NCAA and NBA and their working relationship. I said that it was an NBA rule not a college rule. Then you said something along the lines of "well the NBA made the rule, but I doubt the NCAA didn't go to the NBA and ask for it to be done." Personally, I highly doubt that the NBA had the NCAA in mind at all when it came to making the rule.Not even worth responding because you clearly can't read. I said the NBA ultimately makes the decisions but the NCAA does talk to the NBA about these things. While the NCAA doesn't have power, they do work with the NBA as a quasi minor league system.
Whatever you say. You're clearly right, as always. I mean that, seriously, not at all being sarcastic.Oden was 1, Cook was 13 and Conley was 18 in Rival's rankings in their recruiting class. That is 3 top 20 players and the number 1 rated player overall. It is the same damn scenario. You saying Kentucky's team is bad for basketball now and probably not caring at all about OSU in 2007 is directly related to a bias. There is no way around it.
If you can't see that it is very similar circumstances, then you are putting your head in the sand.Whatever you say. You're clearly right, as always. I mean that, seriously, not at all being sarcastic.