2 Shootings In Ohio cancel games

 
Found this statement from the Woodmore superintendent:
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As an AD I would never schedule a game at any of the city league schools in Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton, Toledo, etc…..too many issues for too many years now. Sorry, just my feelings. And I get it, most of it doesn’t even involve the students at the school or the team. It’s one of those “some ruin it for all.”
 
As an AD I would never schedule a game at any of the city league schools in Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton, Toledo, etc…..too many issues for too many years now. Sorry, just my feelings. And I get it, most of it doesn’t even involve the students at the school or the team. It’s one of those “some ruin it for all.”
So what you do if your Lima Sr who is in a league with all the Toledo inner city schools? With their size and geographic location, they have choice other than play there.
 
As an AD I would never schedule a game at any of the city league schools in Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton, Toledo, etc…..too many issues for too many years now. Sorry, just my feelings. And I get it, most of it doesn’t even involve the students at the school or the team. It’s one of those “some ruin it for all.”
Would you schedule a game at Whitmer or Central?
 
So what you do if your Lima Sr who is in a league with all the Toledo inner city schools? With their size and geographic location, they have choice other than play there.
I get what you're saying but I can assure you no one in Lima is spooked by anything that could or would happen at Start, Waite, Scott, etc....
 
I get what you're saying but I can assure you no one in Lima is spooked by anything that could or would happen at Start, Waite, Scott, etc....
I was addressing this to Rolling Train since he/she said as an AD, they would not schedule inner city schools. I agree Lima would not shy away because it’s a city school as nor would I, Just saying if you are in a league, your hands are tied
 
As an AD I would never schedule a game at any of the city league schools in Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton, Toledo, etc…..too many issues for too many years now. Sorry, just my feelings. And I get it, most of it doesn’t even involve the students at the school or the team. It’s one of those “some ruin it for all.”
I have been to several games in the Columbus City League and except for two stadiums I have never had a thought of being unsafe.
 
Ikr? Shootings are happening all over the place. We are so saturated as a society there is no humanly way at this point to prevent criminals or minors from getting their hands on one if they want. We created this mess.
No doubt. We’ve become the ‘Banana Republic” and “Third World Country” that Americans always denigrated.

But back on the topic, a shame this happens. Wipes out 10% of a bunch of innocent kids’ football season.
 
I was addressing this to Rolling Train since he/she said as an AD, they would not schedule inner city schools. I agree Lima would not shy away because it’s a city school as nor would I, Just saying if you are in a league, your hands are tied
Right. Lima's hands are definitely tied when it comes to a league.
 
I have been to several games in the Columbus City League and except for two stadiums I have never had a thought of being unsafe.
I could tell you some stories ......... lets just leave it at that

Even some of the suburban OCC Schools have had games interrupted or delayed because of guns .
 
For as horrible as it sounds today, crime is actually down considerably since the 80s. We just hear about every single incident now. It's news. Big news. We're a country of over 300 million people and if one nutcase opens fire near a school, a stadium, a mall, etc it will be national news a lot of times. If not at least local/regional news.

We used to offhandedly refer to crime as 'don't become a statistic' because that's the only way anyone would ever note what happened to you.

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And that's just since the 90s. We hear about it more because there's so much less for the news to report on. We used to have just the nightly news give you the recap of the biggest events happening that day. Now you have the 24-hr news channels having to fill 24 hours with 'news' that has devolved into opinion pieces and commentary shows parading around as news.

Several factors made crime drop. If you subscribe to the Freakonomics explanation, abortion lowered crime considerably after Roe v. Wade. But just more recently technology has greatly reduced the ability to commit crime. Security cameras everywhere. Ring cameras. All of that is modern. Homes didn't have cameras in the 80s. Lighting. Lighting has been a huge increase in eliminating crime. Businesses leave their lights on all night now. Homes now powering LED or Halogen bulbs for far cheaper than incandescent and fluorescent means more lights on which means, paired with cameras, far less ability to get away with crime. Both property and injurious crime.

And weird, the value of thing has dropped. A $1000 smart phone that's stolen is not going to fetch a price because it can be tracked. The value would be overseas. Where the long arm of the law won't reach. Nor would it care. Your valuable TV, would be what, $20 on the street? I have a 70" TV in my living room I paid less than $400. Someone is going to break in and try to run off with it WHILE NOT DAMAGING IT? You think that's an option?

Everyone with a smart phone has greatly shone a light on crime and the perpetrators of crime. And they're dumb enough to broadcast their crimes for easy adjudication. See the Chase "money glitch" as an example of idiots reporting themselves.
 
That is true Sykotyk. Thank you for posting that. Not just the 24/7 news cycle, but as society becomes more modern and civilized maybe we just find these things less tolerable.
 
For as horrible as it sounds today, crime is actually down considerably since the 80s. We just hear about every single incident now. It's news. Big news. We're a country of over 300 million people and if one nutcase opens fire near a school, a stadium, a mall, etc it will be national news a lot of times. If not at least local/regional news.

We used to offhandedly refer to crime as 'don't become a statistic' because that's the only way anyone would ever note what happened to you.

SR_24.04.23_crime_3.png


And that's just since the 90s. We hear about it more because there's so much less for the news to report on. We used to have just the nightly news give you the recap of the biggest events happening that day. Now you have the 24-hr news channels having to fill 24 hours with 'news' that has devolved into opinion pieces and commentary shows parading around as news.

Several factors made crime drop. If you subscribe to the Freakonomics explanation, abortion lowered crime considerably after Roe v. Wade. But just more recently technology has greatly reduced the ability to commit crime. Security cameras everywhere. Ring cameras. All of that is modern. Homes didn't have cameras in the 80s. Lighting. Lighting has been a huge increase in eliminating crime. Businesses leave their lights on all night now. Homes now powering LED or Halogen bulbs for far cheaper than incandescent and fluorescent means more lights on which means, paired with cameras, far less ability to get away with crime. Both property and injurious crime.

And weird, the value of thing has dropped. A $1000 smart phone that's stolen is not going to fetch a price because it can be tracked. The value would be overseas. Where the long arm of the law won't reach. Nor would it care. Your valuable TV, would be what, $20 on the street? I have a 70" TV in my living room I paid less than $400. Someone is going to break in and try to run off with it WHILE NOT DAMAGING IT? You think that's an option?

Everyone with a smart phone has greatly shone a light on crime and the perpetrators of crime. And they're dumb enough to broadcast their crimes for easy adjudication. See the Chase "money glitch" as an example of idiots reporting themselves.

At 12.5B that would be a helluva lot of TV's and Smart Phones

Cherry picking crime stats. Cyber crime was over 12b last year and rising. Instead of breaking into your house they are breaking into your bank account. much more lucrative. And look at youth violent crime. In Columbus they steal cars every day and youth murders and gun crimes is higher than its ever been. And thats the crux of this thread. Why Inner City Schools across the State in every big City have intense safety measures in place . Back in the 70's our school buses with the team and cheerleaders got rocks thrown at us as we left games versus City league Schools, Couple of Cheerleaders got punched and knocked down as did some parents. Not once but several times over the years. Thats nothing compared with the threat of gun violence today.
 
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For as horrible as it sounds today, crime is actually down considerably since the 80s. We just hear about every single incident now. It's news. Big news. We're a country of over 300 million people and if one nutcase opens fire near a school, a stadium, a mall, etc it will be national news a lot of times. If not at least local/regional news.

We used to offhandedly refer to crime as 'don't become a statistic' because that's the only way anyone would ever note what happened to you.

SR_24.04.23_crime_3.png


And that's just since the 90s. We hear about it more because there's so much less for the news to report on. We used to have just the nightly news give you the recap of the biggest events happening that day. Now you have the 24-hr news channels having to fill 24 hours with 'news' that has devolved into opinion pieces and commentary shows parading around as news.

Several factors made crime drop. If you subscribe to the Freakonomics explanation, abortion lowered crime considerably after Roe v. Wade. But just more recently technology has greatly reduced the ability to commit crime. Security cameras everywhere. Ring cameras. All of that is modern. Homes didn't have cameras in the 80s. Lighting. Lighting has been a huge increase in eliminating crime. Businesses leave their lights on all night now. Homes now powering LED or Halogen bulbs for far cheaper than incandescent and fluorescent means more lights on which means, paired with cameras, far less ability to get away with crime. Both property and injurious crime.

And weird, the value of thing has dropped. A $1000 smart phone that's stolen is not going to fetch a price because it can be tracked. The value would be overseas. Where the long arm of the law won't reach. Nor would it care. Your valuable TV, would be what, $20 on the street? I have a 70" TV in my living room I paid less than $400. Someone is going to break in and try to run off with it WHILE NOT DAMAGING IT? You think that's an option?

Everyone with a smart phone has greatly shone a light on crime and the perpetrators of crime. And they're dumb enough to broadcast their crimes for easy adjudication. See the Chase "money glitch" as an example of idiots reporting themselves.
Crime isn't down. Arrests are down because cops are letting things go, fearing confrontation with criminals that could end their careers or lives. Example, go to Washington Park in Cincinnati. People are freely smoking marijuana in public, which is still illegal despite pot being legal, a victimless crime but still a crime none the less. However the chief of police has told officers not to enforce this law in the city. You can also read about dozens of shootings every week where police have yet to detain a subject and are asking witnesses to come forward. Nobody ever does. Thousands of murders happen all across this country where no arrests are made and police have no person of interest because of the "no snitch culture" in the black community. Also the juvenile judges in Cincinnati releasing violent offenders to write essays instead of jail time. But you are entitled to your opinion. You should attend North College Hills next home game or go to Stargel Stadium for a CPS game sometime.
 
For as horrible as it sounds today, crime is actually down considerably since the 80s. We just hear about every single incident now. It's news. Big news. We're a country of over 300 million people and if one nutcase opens fire near a school, a stadium, a mall, etc it will be national news a lot of times. If not at least local/regional news.

We used to offhandedly refer to crime as 'don't become a statistic' because that's the only way anyone would ever note what happened to you.

SR_24.04.23_crime_3.png


And that's just since the 90s. We hear about it more because there's so much less for the news to report on. We used to have just the nightly news give you the recap of the biggest events happening that day. Now you have the 24-hr news channels having to fill 24 hours with 'news' that has devolved into opinion pieces and commentary shows parading around as news.

Several factors made crime drop. If you subscribe to the Freakonomics explanation, abortion lowered crime considerably after Roe v. Wade. But just more recently technology has greatly reduced the ability to commit crime. Security cameras everywhere. Ring cameras. All of that is modern. Homes didn't have cameras in the 80s. Lighting. Lighting has been a huge increase in eliminating crime. Businesses leave their lights on all night now. Homes now powering LED or Halogen bulbs for far cheaper than incandescent and fluorescent means more lights on which means, paired with cameras, far less ability to get away with crime. Both property and injurious crime.

And weird, the value of thing has dropped. A $1000 smart phone that's stolen is not going to fetch a price because it can be tracked. The value would be overseas. Where the long arm of the law won't reach. Nor would it care. Your valuable TV, would be what, $20 on the street? I have a 70" TV in my living room I paid less than $400. Someone is going to break in and try to run off with it WHILE NOT DAMAGING IT? You think that's an option?

Everyone with a smart phone has greatly shone a light on crime and the perpetrators of crime. And they're dumb enough to broadcast their crimes for easy adjudication. See the Chase "money glitch" as an example of idiots reporting themselves.
Crime is down because cities don’t report to the FBI as in decades past.
 

At 12.5B that would be a helluva lot of TV's and Smart Phones

Cherry picking crime stats. Cyber crime was over 12b last year and rising. Instead of breaking into your house they are breaking into your bank account. much more lucrative. And look at youth violent crime. In Columbus they steal cars every day and youth murders and gun crimes is higher than its ever been. And thats the crux of this thread. Why Inner City Schools across the State in every big City have intense safety measures in place . Back in the 70's our school buses with the team and cheerleaders got rocks thrown at us as we left games versus City league Schools, Couple of Cheerleaders got punched and knocked down as did some parents. Not once but several times over the years. Thats nothing compared with the threat of gun violence today.
So, just make up your own statistics to fit your narrative as you've done?

Funny how you really don't believe what you're saying. You wouldn't step foot outside your home if gun violence were as extreme as you purport it to be.
 
Crime is down because cities don’t report to the FBI as in decades past.

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In order to fulfill its responsibilities in connection with the UCR Program, the FBI edits and reviews individual agency reports for both completeness and quality. Members of the national program’s staff contact the state UCR Program in connection with crime-reporting matters and, as necessary, when approved by the state, individual contributors. Upon request, staff members conduct training programs within the state on law enforcement record-keeping and crime-reporting procedures. Following audit standards established by the federal government, the FBI conducts an audit of each state’s UCR data collection procedures once every 3 years. Should circumstances develop whereby the state program does not comply with the aforementioned requirements, the national program may institute a direct collection of data from law enforcement agencies within the state.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/methodology
 
Crime isn't down. Arrests are down because cops are letting things go, fearing confrontation with criminals that could end their careers or lives. Example, go to Washington Park in Cincinnati. People are freely smoking marijuana in public, which is still illegal despite pot being legal, a victimless crime but still a crime none the less. However the chief of police has told officers not to enforce this law in the city. You can also read about dozens of shootings every week where police have yet to detain a subject and are asking witnesses to come forward. Nobody ever does. Thousands of murders happen all across this country where no arrests are made and police have no person of interest because of the "no snitch culture" in the black community. Also the juvenile judges in Cincinnati releasing violent offenders to write essays instead of jail time. But you are entitled to your opinion. You should attend North College Hills next home game or go to Stargel Stadium for a CPS game sometime.
I've been to games in far worse neighborhoods in far worse cities. Y'all are just scared.
 
So, just make up your own statistics to fit your narrative as you've done?

Funny how you really don't believe what you're saying. You wouldn't step foot outside your home if gun violence were as extreme as you purport it to be.
i just know better than to go into some areas of Franklin County. and yes you bet i'm a CCW carrier. And i didn't make up statistics i just told the rest of the story as others have.
 
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