Can Faithful Catholics Vote for Biden/Harris?

Obi-Wan said:
The last time Catholics voted +20 for any candidate in a presidential election was 1960 and the candidate was proudly catholic JFK. Donald Trump isn’t going to reverse that trend. He’s more likely to lose Catholic voters than gain any.
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JFK would probably be a Republican now if he held the exact same ideas in this century. Another big difference is Roe v. Wade was still far into the future when he was elected. Not the same hot button issue as today.
 
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Biden has abandoned the teachings of the church for political gain. Harris seems to never had a spiritual moral anchor or compass to abandon.
 
Stirred not Shaken said:
True but Trump supported a woman's right to chose till he ran for President. Plus Trump is a scum bag remember grab her by the pu^^y. I know our local Priest who is no liberal talks about Trump like he was the devil himself. Do the honorable thing and don't vote for either.
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One of them will be president. Much better to have a say in what happens to you than just sitting by while it does.
 
Omar said:
I’m quite certain it’s a struggle for devout Catholics. I think anyone aware of Trump’s past can surmise he’s probably paid for a few off the books. However, Biden being pro choice makes it hard to choose.
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Single issue voters are morons.
 
Obi-Wan said:
Catholic voters swung to Trump in 2016 by a seven point margin. They had gone for Obama in both 2008 and 2012. I’m guessing that Trump won’t repeat that performance against a practicing Catholic. The abortion issue is a problem for Joe. It’ll be interesting to see how the church handles it down the stretch. If you’ve followed the church at all it’s clear they’d love nothing more than to get rid of Trump. Several sermons from Pope Francis may as well have “ this is about you Donald” as a title.
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The Pope is a liberal hack so theres that.
 
Obi-Wan said:
Yes, they absolutely can vote for him. It’s a really similar situation to the evangelical Christians who vote for Trump. Everyone knows their not good Christians but you vote for them anyways.
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You're mixed up.

People aren't voting for Trump because he's a good Christian. They vote for him because his policies align with Christianity, especially antiabortion policies.

Biden may be a better person than Trump (debatable) but his policy positions are very much anti Christian.
 
Purplemojo said:
They are both pretty repugnant from a moral and ethical standpoint. What it is about is their policies.
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That's what so many dont get. I dont care if hes a jackass on Twitter. Has not one iota of effect on my life. His policies however do.
 
Stirred not Shaken said:
True but Trump supported a woman's right to chose till he ran for President. Plus Trump is a scum bag remember grab her by the pu^^y. I know our local Priest who is no liberal talks about Trump like he was the devil himself. Do the honorable thing and don't vote for either.
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Trump has clearly acted as an antiabortion President putting two SCOTUS Justices on the bench as well as hundreds of lower court appointments. Four more years of appointments could drastically change this country.

Why would you throw your vote away when the opportunity is there? Sometimes the vessel of change is ugly but the change is beautiful.
 
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Do y'all think God will hold all of responsible for the killing of the innocents because we allowed it to happen?
 
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Irish60 said:
Then a Catholic can't vote for a Republican who supports the death penalty either.
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As a Catholic, I would say abortion and the death penalty are different because the unborn is an innocent life. ...I just remembered that the fetus is born having sinned. Never mind.
 
my2sense said:
The Bible defines that, not people. As for the thread topic, the Catholic Church is staunchly pro-life. Joe rejects that for political gain. For the sincere practicing Catholics, I think that matters.
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What is the Catholic Church's stance on capital punishment?

What about divorce?

Is there a stance on cheating on your wife? Having a porn star spank you with a magazine?

Anything in there about lying?

What about gluttony?
 
irish_buffalo said:
What is the Catholic Church's stance on capital punishment?

What about divorce?

Is there a stance on cheating on your wife? Having a porn star spank you with a magazine?

Anything in there about lying?

What about gluttony?
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It’s the same as men having sex with young boys. It is frowned upon but tolerated.
 
irish_buffalo said:
What is the Catholic Church's stance on capital punishment?

What about divorce?

Is there a stance on cheating on your wife? Having a porn star spank you with a magazine?

Anything in there about lying?

What about gluttony?
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Obviously they have a stance on all of those things. But as for you, me and everyone else, each of these things rank in some sort of level of seriousness. Given how heated people get in the discussion of abortion, I think it ranks pretty high, relative to the ones you have listed.
 
Irish60 said:
Then a Catholic can't vote for a Republican who supports the death penalty either.
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I'm against the death penalty too, but you have to pick somebody. Seems it's a prerequisite to be pro abortion to run for office as a democrat now. With republicans it is split on the death penalty still
 
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