clarkgriswold
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That's good to hear.Gotto has gotten quite a few kids from Akron to come to Barberton to play for him. He is good at building relationships with kids.
That's good to hear.Gotto has gotten quite a few kids from Akron to come to Barberton to play for him. He is good at building relationships with kids.
I was about to say to ANY public school coach who would straight up deny a opportunity to coach 6x state championship football team is crazy aslI heard Gotto was contacted and said maybe.
Why?I was about to say to ANY public school coach who would straight up deny a opportunity to coach 6x state championship football team is crazy asl
please!!!!!!!!!!!I was about to say to ANY public school coach who would straight up deny a opportunity to coach 6x state championship football team is crazy asl
because here's the thing if he comes and turns it around he'll get way more money for himself and the program than he would than any public school would offer. our boosters are wayy better than barberton's and the support will be larger.Why?
Most coming from public would have to take a pay cut and lose STRS benefits if they wanted to be in the building at a private.
Many probably feel they are in a better position than what St V currently is.
what? stvm is an attractive Job and will always will be.please!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe from a coaching stipend point of view but they most likely will not be able to match what he makes teaching at Barberton and if he does leave teaching at Barberton he will be out several years of STRS which will effect his retirement. He could be a HC and stay at Barberton but I don’t think that is a recipe for success.because here's the thing if he comes and turns it around he'll get way more money for himself and the program than he would than any public school would offer. our boosters are wayy better than barberton's and the support will be larger.
we know trust me Nickol didn't work...Maybe from a coaching stipend point of view but they most likely will not be able to match what he makes teaching at Barberton and if he does leave teaching at Barberton he will be out several years of STRS which will effect his retirement. He could be a HC and stay at Barberton but I don’t think that is a recipe for success.
I’d rather coach at Barberton. Too much political nonsense at the privates.what? stvm is an attractive Job and will always will be.
Much less interference and whining.I’d rather coach at Barberton. Too much political nonsense at the privates.
Other than being an alum, my knowledge of the inner workings of the football program became much more in depth when my son joined the team. His coach was Dan Boarman, and no one was going to tell him what to do or who to play! Wattley was a good choice, but I'm not sure he was quite ready. To me, he appeared to try to be Boarman 2.0 rather than to be himself. Keeping all the old staff in place was a no brainer given the success they had; but, from what I hear, there was more than a little "That's not how my dad did things"; which is natural, but problematic when the team was hearing different things from different people. I was surprised by the Bobby Nichol hire since I was expecting a more seasoned coach to step in. IMO this is when the outside pressure began to pick up steam. Perhaps a Larlham-type hire at that time would have kept the parents from gathering up torches and pitchforks to storm the castle, but who knows. Terry Cistone did a remarkable job in his two years, but it appears he told the administration he was only going to take the job for 2 years, so, in a way, it was a case of kicking the can down the road. And it does sound like the "Why isn't so-and-so playing QB" noise certainly wore thin on him. At this point, I AM surprised that the Irish don't seem to have a more concrete plan in place. Knowing Cistone was not a long-term answer, you'd think they would have had a lot of the due diligence done already, at least informally. Maybe they do and we don't know it, but it's not looking to me like that's the case. In any case, they need to hire someone with enough cache to silence some of the "constructive criticism" coming from the parent's club... I don't think the noise is as bad at this point as it might seem anyway, but it has the potential of becoming a real problem! So, is Larlham that guy? Who knows, I don't truly know enough about the man personally to speak intelligently on that subject (although that certainly won't prevent others from doing so!) I'm hoping they get it right.Much less interference and whining.
SVSM has a great history and the head coach gig there is a nice job. However, that begs the question if it's such a desirable job how they ended up with the last two coaches.
My primary concern with Cistone's leadership this year came out of the team I saw at the start of the year versus the team I saw at the end of the year. Albeit they were young, but I would have thought it would get better as the year went on. Instead it went in the exact opposite direction.Other than being an alum, my knowledge of the inner workings of the football program became much more in depth when my son joined the team. His coach was Dan Boarman, and no one was going to tell him what to do or who to play! Wattley was a good choice, but I'm not sure he was quite ready. To me, he appeared to try to be Boarman 2.0 rather than to be himself. Keeping all the old staff in place was a no brainer given the success they had; but, from what I hear, there was more than a little "That's not how my dad did things"; which is natural, but problematic when the team was hearing different things from different people. I was surprised by the Bobby Nichol hire since I was expecting a more seasoned coach to step in. IMO this is when the outside pressure began to pick up steam. Perhaps a Larlham-type hire at that time would have kept the parents from gathering up torches and pitchforks to storm the castle, but who knows. Terry Cistone did a remarkable job in his two years, but it appears he told the administration he was only going to take the job for 2 years, so, in a way, it was a case of kicking the can down the road. And it does sound like the "Why isn't so-and-so playing QB" noise certainly wore thin on him. At this point, I AM surprised that the Irish don't seem to have a more concrete plan in place. Knowing Cistone was not a long-term answer, you'd think they would have had a lot of the due diligence done already, at least informally. Maybe they do and we don't know it, but it's not looking to me like that's the case. In any case, they need to hire someone with enough cache to silence some of the "constructive criticism" coming from the parent's club... I don't think the noise is as bad at this point as it might seem anyway, but it has the potential of becoming a real problem! So, is Larlham that guy? Who knows, I don't truly know enough about the man personally to speak intelligently on that subject (although that certainly won't prevent others from doing so!) I'm hoping they get it right.
I agree, and I'm wondering how much of that can be attributed to him having one foot out the door.My primary concern with Cistone's leadership this year came out of the team I saw at the start of the year versus the team I saw at the end of the year. Albeit they were young, but I would have thought it would get better as the year went on. Instead it went in the exact opposite direction.
I am guessing a hell of a lot.I agree, and I'm wondering how much of that can be attributed to him having one foot out the door.
Some of that may already be happening. I recall hearing there were only 21 kids on the freshmen team this year.If I was the parent on a current 9th or 10th grader and I would have been told that Coach Cistone was not really committed to more than a couple of seasons as H/C there would be no way in the world I would have sent my son to play there. Seems this whole thing was botched 2 years ago.
This is exactly why when a college coach is terminated, the vacancy is filled very quickly so an entire recruiting cycle is not lost.Some of that may already be happening. I recall hearing there were only 21 kids on the freshmen team this year.
Don’t Count on itAnnouncement before break?
Are they going to do take their time?Interviews are currently taking place. I Will not reveal candidates. Hopefully they hire a strong coach who can build a solid program and tune out out the politics by the fans parents && Alumni
No
They will be thorough and make the right choiceAre they going to do take their time?
How many candidates are left?They will be thorough and make the right choice
I sure hope. Their recent history indicates otherwise.They will be thorough and make the right choice