Joe Biden's Submissive -- and Highly Revealing -- Embrace of Saudi Despots

SayMyName

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GO BRANDON!!! GO SAUDIS!!!

Perhaps the most vocal critic of Trump's ongoing willingness to maintain ties with the Saudi regime were then-Democratic presidential candidates Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. As a recent CNN compilation of those statements demonstrates: “In the years prior to taking office, President Joe Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris, and many of their administration's top officials harshly criticized President Donald Trump's lack of action against Saudi Arabia and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman for the 2018 murder of Saudi journalist and Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi.”

In a 2019 Democratic primary debate, Biden vowed: “We were going to in fact make them pay the price, and make them in fact the pariah that they are,” adding that there is “very little social redeeming value in the present government in Saudi Arabia.” Harris similarly scolded Trump for his ongoing relationship with the Saudis, complaining on Twitter in October, 2019, that "Trump has yet to hold Saudi officials accountable," adding: "Unacceptable—America must make it clear that violence toward critics and the press won't be tolerated."

That Joe Biden was masquerading as some sort of human rights crusader who would sever ties with the despotic regimes that have long been among America's most cherished partners was inherently preposterous. As Obama's Vice President, Biden was central to that administration's foreign policy which was driven by an embrace of the world's most barbaric tyrants. So devoted was Obama to the U.S.'s long-standing partnership with Riyadh that, in 2015, he deeply offended India — the world's largest democracy — by abruptly cutting short his visit to that country in order to fly to Saudi Arabia, along with leaders of both U.S. political parties, to pay homage to Saudi King Abdullah upon his death. Adding insult to injury, Obama, as The Guardian put it, boarded his plane to Riyadh “just hours after lecturing India on religious tolerance and women’s rights.”
 

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The Saudi's are bad right? GO BRANDON!!!!!!​

President Biden’s Saudi Arabia Flip Flop​

What do you know, the U.S. needs Arab allies in the Middle East.​

WSJ
By
The Editorial Board
June 14, 2022 6:46 pm ET

The White House confirmed Tuesday that President Biden will travel to Saudi Arabia next month, though the left was already criticizing the trip before it was formally announced. While his trip makes strategic and economic sense, it would be less embarrassing now if Mr. Biden had been more realistic about the world from day one.

Mr. Biden came into office bowing to the left’s disdain for Riyadh without appreciating the strategic need for Arab allies in the Gulf. As a candidate hevowedto make Saudi Arabia “pay the price and make them, in fact, the pariah that they are.” He added that there was “very little social redeeming value in the present government.”

As President he rolled back support for the country’s war against Iran-backed rebels in Yemen and tried to isolate Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. Mr. Biden also courted Iran, as Barack Obama had done to no good effect, which further discomfited the Saudis.
It all backfired. Iran has refused Mr. Biden’s concessions to return to the 2015 nuclear agreement and has hamstrung United Nations nuclear inspectors. Meanwhile, the Saudis have courted Russia and China as alternatives to the U.S. as strategic and economic partners. Until recently the Saudis refused Mr. Biden’s pleas to pump more oil, and the Crown Prince reportedly refused to take his phone call. Now Mr. Biden is courting Saudi Arabia again, and his public bows may have to be all the deeper given his early public disdain.

Mr. Biden’s brand of liberal internationalism is good at broadcasting American principles but not so effective at protecting U.S. interests.Donald Trump practiced a raw transactional global politics that too often ignored human rights and applauded dictators. But Mr. Biden has gone so far the other way that some allies don’t trust him.

In a world in which great power politics has returned with a vengeance, and U.S. adversaries are on the march, the U.S. needs allies in rough neighborhoods. Some of them are going to be unsavory by American standards.

The Saudi Crown Prince is an example with his alleged complicity in the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. But he has also brought a heretofore unknown degree of social reform to the Kingdom, including for women. Mr. Biden is right to try to patch up relations, even if it means offending his party’s left.
 

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Of course, America can produce its own fossil fuels. A few short years ago, this country was virtually energy independent. For purported environmental reasons, however, this president eschews domestic energy production. So long as that is true, Biden needs to rely on the foreign policy formula that has guided the U.S.-Saudi relationship for the better part of a century: a reliable supply of Saudi oil in exchange for American security and diplomatic backing.

In other words, after two years of unforced errors, the president has submitted to the superiority of the status quo. His forthcoming visit to Saudi Arabia next month is an acknowledgment of that fact.

But Biden’s visit has an interesting wrinkle. He’ll be flying to Saudi Arabia directly from Israel. The itinerary of his trip alone suggests extraordinary diplomatic opportunities, a chance to not merely embrace the success of Sunni-Israel cooperation but build on it.

The Saudis and Israelis have quietly grown closer over the last decade, due in large part to the mutual disdain for American-led nuclear diplomacy with their shared enemy, the Islamic Republic of Iran. This disdain was a basis for the normalization agreements of 2020 brokered by the Trump administration between Israel and the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Morocco, and Sudan.

Saudi Arabia was rumored to be next in line if Trump won a second term. Remarkably, however, when Biden took office, he disavowed the momentum of his predecessor, despite the significant diplomatic achievements that suddenly appeared possible. Partisan politics was clearly at play. The State Department spokesman for a time would not even utter the words “Abraham Accords.”

But there was more to Biden’s ambivalence. He understood that America’s dangerous diplomacy with the world’s foremost state sponsor of terrorism contributed significantly to the budding Saudi-Israeli alliance. He was vice president when the wrong-headed nuclear bargaining with Iran began under Barack Obama, and he continues to support a policy of enriching the clerical regime in exchange for fleeting nuclear concessions. This further strained ties with Riyadh, and to a lesser extent Israel.
 

Zunardo

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Call it Joe's incredible transition re his previous statement about the Saudis.

Dems may need new dentures and BP meds after all the teeth-gritting and straining to accept their fearful leader's change of heart.
 
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SayMyName

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Lick the boot or sandal JOE!!!!!!
 

19AL63

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Tell us Joe how did that meet, greet and get on your knees and beg work out for you? Did you get the them to increase oil production? Joe, you do know if you had treated the US produces like you did the Saudis you might have gotten a much better response and out come to fill your needs. You do know campaigning and promising to shut the oil producers down does not make them want to invest to produce more.
 

19AL63

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Trump begged saudi arabia for oil.
Don't go back in history. Lets talk about today and what our replacement of Trump is doing for us. How do you feel about your liberal Democrat brothers telling us that by 2024 inflation will be gone and the economy will be rolling right along? Do you and your fellow Democrats think just maybe that could be a result of the midterm elections and the return of the R's to power and control? You aren't really going to take credit for what Republicans have done are you?
 

brian1227

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Don't go back in history. Lets talk about today and what our replacement of Trump is doing for us. How do you feel about your liberal Democrat brothers telling us that by 2024 inflation will be gone and the economy will be rolling right along? Do you and your fellow Democrats think just maybe that could be a result of the midterm elections and the return of the R's to power and control? You aren't really going to take credit for what Republicans have done are you?
Repubulicans have done nothing.
 

OhioBobcatFan06

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I am currently neutral on this issue.

I will come back and edit this post once either the Saudis or Iranians bribe me one way or another. I can be bought "cut for the big guy"
 
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