That is correct. Woodridge #1 got sick (Food Poisoning) at Oregon. Put him at his normal #1 and they would have finished very high that year. The year before is the year that started their streak of consecutive state meet qualifying. That year started the girls.My notes show Woodridge was an automatic bid in 2006 and LaSalle received an at-large. Elmhurst York was the other automatic bid from the midwest. The regional meet was not contested until 2007. Medina earned an at-large that year.
Except for Nike Regional and the blanket finish at GCL, Hall was #1, Stifel was #2 and Vitucci was #3 for St. Xavier in 2013. Hall did not compete in the Bombers first meet (Moeller Primetime) where Stifel and Vitucci finished 1-2 overall.I’m fairly certain Stifel was the #2 in 2013. But yes, crazy.
'04 was Woodridge boys' 1st year of the current streak. '05 team looked like the favorite all year but didn't get it done at state.That is correct. Woodridge #1 got sick (Food Poisoning) at Oregon. Put him at his normal #1 and they would have finished very high that year. The year before is the year that started their streak of consecutive state meet qualifying. That year started the girls.
The Salem team? I'm bad about confusing years anymore. I keep forgetting track and CC are different years. I went by when my daughter graduated in my head.'04 was Woodridge boys' 1st year of the current streak. '05 team looked like the favorite all year but didn't get it done at state.
Yeah, that was Salem boys repeating as team champions with St. V finishing 2nd. After dominating the regional meet, Woodridge finished 3rd at state. The region was as stacked as ever that year. Walsh Jesuit was #2 in the state poll behind Woodridge coming into the regional meet and failed to advance, with Aurora snaking the 4th team spot out of Boardman.The Salem team? I'm bad about confusing years anymore. I keep forgetting track and CC are different years. I went by when my daughter graduated in my head.
I recall fall of 1985 Caldwell showed up at Brookville invitational, where no fewer than three other small school state qualifiers were competing, and I'm pretty certain Caldwell finished with a perfect 15 points (only time I ever saw it done) and their 7 th man was in top 10 with a 16:30 something? That was an amazing program for a sport that unlikely had kids transferring in for a chance at a title.86 and 87 were pretty darn good.
I can't speak for 1985, but the 1986 Caldwell team won Brookville with 25 points (1, 3, 4, 8, 9, 10 & 15) with a 5-man average of ~15:37. Their 7th man was 16:31 that day.I recall fall of 1985 Caldwell showed up at Brookville invitational, where no fewer than three other small school state qualifiers were competing, and I'm pretty certain Caldwell finished with a perfect 15 points (only time I ever saw it done) and their 7 th man was in top 10 with a 16:30 something? That was an amazing program for a sport that unlikely had kids transferring in for a chance at a title.
The Colerain team was a great team in '78. They were ranked #3 in the country by XC Legacy. But, your argument supports Kent Roosevelt over that great team. Kent went 4,5,6,11,18 in '80 for 44 points compared to 48 for Colerain. Kent was ranked as national co-champion by XC Legacy and has consideration as one of the greatest teams in the country. Kent had (and still has the largest margin of victory for the large schools) with 119. The average for Roosevelt's runners was 12:17 compared to 12:28 for Colerain, although I realize they were different courses and different conditions so it is tough to compare. And, this with arguably their best runner finishing 100th who had been 5th at State the year before.I think there is some "recency bias" in this thread. I ran against the 78 Colerain team for 4 years and they get my vote as the best team ever. Placing 4 runners in top 11 (and 5 in top 19) in the large school State Championship meet is an amazing accomplishment.
You make a good argument for Kent Roosevelt. Having left Ohio in 1979, I have to admit I was unfamiliar with that team and not aware they were also in the large school division (AAA back then), In 78 we ran on the Ohio State golf course (Scarlet I believe). Where was State held after that?The Colerain team was a great team in '78. They were ranked #3 in the country by XC Legacy. But, your argument supports Kent Roosevelt over that great team. Kent went 4,5,6,11,18 in '80 for 44 points compared to 48 for Colerain. Kent was ranked as national co-champion by XC Legacy and has consideration as one of the greatest teams in the country. Kent had (and still has the largest margin of victory for the large schools) with 119. The average for Roosevelt's runners was 12:17 compared to 12:28 for Colerain, although I realize they were different courses and different conditions so it is tough to compare. And, this with arguably their best runner finishing 100th who had been 5th at State the year before.
'79 was at the Columbus Academy. '80 and '81 were at OSU North Facility Course. I did run in the '78 race at the golf course as a freshman when Roosevelt finished 6th to that Colerain team.You make a good argument for Kent Roosevelt. Having left Ohio in 1979, I have to admit I was unfamiliar with that team and not aware they were also in the large school division (AAA back then), In 78 we ran on the Ohio State golf course (Scarlet I believe). Where was State held after that?
They have to be in the conversation….Russo brothers, Blair Hopkins, Mike Peters, Greg Wilcher