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Was his buddy unaware or immobile from panic? That’s a real thing too.
Definitely unaware. Probably exacerbated by the fact that they were already acting like a stupid mob. Say it was just him and his friend instead of the larger crowd, maybe he reacts differently. I still don't discount the smartphone effect because it's like there's always someone on the other end of the line. That someone should've been 911 in two seconds and I don't understand why it wasn't.
 
Was his buddy unaware or immobile from panic? That’s a real thing too. Some people freeze to the point of paralysis under pressure. Some people are natural born heroes and some just aren’t. I read a study years ago that the types of personalities most likely to be heroes and/or save a life are people with criminal backgrounds. They don’t panic under pressure because they’re adept in pressure situations that are similar in nature to committing crimes.

I’m not a criminal myself, but I grew up very blue collar, fighting often as a youth, and have seen a lot of terrible things, stabbings and shootings and some bad beatings, so I feel like that puts me in that non-panic under pressure category. In seventh grade, I pulled a girl who couldn’t swim from a rushing river while two teachers and a camp counselor stood by not knowing what to do. I climbed down a steep embankment and held on to a tree and pulled her out. They honored me at my middle school following week.

I also probably saved my son’s life twice from choking, but that was just parental instincts kicking in. I may have also saved my buddy’s life in 8th grade. We made a 10 foot high 20 foot wide snow pile and were attempting to dig a tunnel from one side to the other side. We all went inside from being freezing cold and I happened to look out the back door and noticed a small hole at the top of the snow pile where it dipped down like the top of a volcano. He had been under there trying to kick through from one tunnel to the other and it collapsed in on him, but we thought he had gone home. We dug him out, turning blue and almost unconscious. He’d been trapped for about 15 minutes, but we probably wouldn’t have gone back out there at all because it was late. I was lucky to have seen it. He’s dead now from an overdose, but he never let me forget how I helped him. I saw hm once at a festival back home 15 years or so after we graduated, all messed up on drugs, hadn’t seen him since high school, and that was the first thing he said to me lol.
His buddy was aware, but it took me yelling at him to get him to help. I was actually trained in lifesaving too, as a youth growing up. I recognized the moment this guy went into the water that he wasn't a strong swimmer. I then planned how I was going to get to him if or when he began to struggle.
 
Definitely unaware. Probably exacerbated by the fact that they were already acting like a stupid mob. Say it was just him and his friend instead of the larger crowd, maybe he reacts differently. I still don't discount the smartphone effect because it's like there's always someone on the other end of the line. That someone should've been 911 in two seconds and I don't understand why it wasn't.

My apologies. I completely changed topics there. You responded to me asking Hammerdrill about his ordeal with a drowning person.
 
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