Cirino arrested, going to jail for a long time

[Crimson and Black]

I don’t know. Maybe let the legal system play out first?

Bingo. If the dude is guilty put him away for 50 years.

 

[Oil Filter]

Expect some incoming for this take, but unprovable he said/she said allegations from 20 years ago seem a bit dubious.

No, dude. Verdict first, trial later.

Torches and pitchforks all around.

 

[Dayride]

No, dude. Verdict first, trial later.

Torches and pitchforks all around.

Only accusation made in this thread is your’s basically calling the victim a liar.

 

[Oil Filter]

Only accusation made in this thread is your’s basically calling the victim a liar.

Never said the alleged (you forgot that word in your rush to judgment) victim lied. What was said that evidence and memory can both degrade over time. Is the allegation true? Don't know -- and, your misplaced certitude notwithstanding, neither do you.

 

[Dayride]

Never said the alleged (you forgot that word in your rush to judgment) victim lied. What was said that evidence and memory can both degrade over time. Is the allegation true? Don't know -- and, your misplaced certitude notwithstanding, neither do you.

Here use this link next time you try to use a three syllable word like dubious. Works for two syllable words too. Basically anything outside of your phraseology. (Threw in a four syllable word for free for your future use)

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[shoprat2]

Yeah, but this is one of those charges where the accusation is the verdict. No matter what the jury says, the court of public opinion has already condemned him.

However court goes his career is likely over.

 

[World breaker hulk 282]

Were you there when the alleged incidents occured? If not, then shut up!

Well their is 3 girls making accusations 2 of them when 16 and another when 12

The 12 year old called him with police on the line (obviously not 12 anymore)
Basically admitting to everything.
At least that what is being said. Statute of limitations is 20 years this was 19 years ago allegedly. That’s the more serious count. Because state of Ohio 16 is legal age. When consent. But under 13 when Lou was supposedly 20 is a huge problem. Especially if it’s true he admitted on a taped call with police. Now I hope this is all rumors and it’s false. But police don’t arrest ,he said she said to often. Also if true 3 sexual situations all underage . Disgusting! but I’ll let the courts sort this out. Hopefully for Lou and his family this is not true. But the more I’m told the uglier it gets.

 

[World breaker hulk 282]

I hope this is all exaggerated but so many girls came forward. I only responded because it seemed the girls were being questioned. By the public opinion.
I’ll let the courts judge the girls memory.
And not judge them. Had to be hard to come out
And make these kind of accusations.
But I’m hoping these are not true!
For Lou’s wife and family.
Now let’s get back to football talk. Season approaches quickly

 

[Carol Danvers]

Well their is 3 girls making accusations 2 of them when 16 and another when 12

The 12 year old called him with police on the line (obviously not 12 anymore)
Basically admitting to everything.
At least that what is being said. Statute of limitations is 20 years this was 19 years ago allegedly. That’s the more serious count. Because state of Ohio 16 is legal age. When consent. But under 13 when Lou was supposedly 20 is a huge problem. Especially if it’s true he admitted on a taped call with police. Now I hope this is all rumors and it’s false. But police don’t arrest ,he said she said to often. Also if true 3 sexual situations all underage . Disgusting! but I’ll let the courts sort this out. Hopefully for Lou and his family this is not true. But the more I’m told the uglier it gets.

Heard same. Getting on the phone to discuss the past is a bad move. He didn't think that out.

 

[hammer89]

Heard same. Getting on the phone to discuss the past is a bad move. He didn't think that out.

Former AD at Bloom Carroll got 4.5 years in jail a few months ago and was caught this exact same way.

 

[TigerPaw]

Unfortunate, but immaterial. Time destroys evidence and distorts memories.

"...the law holds that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

Well said. Is that catholic?

 

[Oil Filter]

Former AD at Bloom Carroll got 4.5 years in jail a few months ago and was caught this exact same way.

Fortunately, most criminals are stupid. Almost like it's a prerequisite for the job.

 

[World breaker hulk 282]

Like with E Jean Carroll?

And you really think there are 20-year-old photos of him diddling a 13-year-old and they've been hidden until now?

No but when Lou Cirino is on a taped call admitting to the accusations , that’s a smoking gun! Let alone 3 seperate girls came forward.
And I’m with you that if it’s he said she said from 15-19 years ago. He could have beat the case.
But if he’s dumb enough to talk about felonies from years ago. It’s on him. But if he did it. He should be punished 12 years old is unforgivable.
But I don’t believe Jean Carrol so everyone deserves a fair unbiased jury.
Let’s see how this plays out. His career is over
Hopefully he can rebuild his life

 

[Mr. Slippery]

Arraingment was this morning. As expected, the defendant pleaded not guilty.

 

[Dayride]

Well their is 3 girls making accusations 2 of them when 16 and another when 12

The 12 year old called him with police on the line (obviously not 12 anymore)
Basically admitting to everything.
At least that what is being said. Statute of limitations is 20 years this was 19 years ago allegedly. That’s the more serious count. Because state of Ohio 16 is legal age. When consent. But under 13 when Lou was supposedly 20 is a huge problem. Especially if it’s true he admitted on a taped call with police. Now I hope this is all rumors and it’s false. But police don’t arrest ,he said she said to often. Also if true 3 sexual situations all underage . Disgusting! but I’ll let the courts sort this out. Hopefully for Lou and his family this is not true. But the more I’m told the uglier it gets.

Ohio law says the statute of limitations is 12 years after the victim turns 18. So her clock to report didn't start ticking until she turned 18.


As for the age of consent, that goes out the window when a teacher is involved with a student.

Ohio has a law that criminalizes educator sexual misconduct. Ohio Rev. Code Ann. § 2907.03(A)(7-8) states that “no person shall engage in sexual conduct with another, not the spouse of the offender, when any of the following apply: (7) The offender is a teacher, administrator, coach, or other person in authority employed by or serving in a school…, the other person is enrolled in or attends that school, and the offender is not enrolled in and does not attend that school.” The statute establishes sexual misconduct as a third-degree felony with 1-5 years imprisonment and a fine of $5,000, or second-degree felony with 2-8 years imprisonment and a fine of up to $10,000. Registration as sex offender is required.

 

[World breaker hulk 282]

Well glad we have yappi lawyers here. Clarifying this awful case

Just horrible for everyone involved and families
Hope this isn’t true ! But a lot of smoke.
Got to be some fire

 

[City League Cbus Fan]

Well their is 3 girls making accusations 2 of them when 16 and another when 12

The 12 year old called him with police on the line (obviously not 12 anymore)
Basically admitting to everything.
At least that what is being said. Statute of limitations is 20 years this was 19 years ago allegedly. That’s the more serious count. Because state of Ohio 16 is legal age. When consent. But under 13 when Lou was supposedly 20 is a huge problem. Especially if it’s true he admitted on a taped call with police. Now I hope this is all rumors and it’s false. But police don’t arrest ,he said she said to often. Also if true 3 sexual situations all underage . Disgusting! but I’ll let the courts sort this out. Hopefully for Lou and his family this is not true. But the more I’m told the uglier it gets.

Not saying you are wrong at all (no sarcasm). But where was this noted in news articles about 3 girls? Sad case. No judgement from me. We all make mistakes. It doesn't excuse what he allegedly did. I do think it's a good reminder to always be careful and respectful of others at all times.

 

[City League Cbus Fan]

Not sure iwhy, but all 3 girls were in court on Monday holding hands. The other 2 girls might not have had proof. The taped phone call. So only going with the one girls account. But to be honest I don’t know. Just know they were all in court.

Thanks for clarifying. I saw there was a video of people in the court and I think those were his supporters, per his defense attorney. I may be 100% wrong though.

 

[World breaker hulk 282]

Thanks for clarifying. I saw there was a video of people in the court and I think those were his supporters, per his defense attorney. I may be 100% wrong though.

Those where not the 3 girls I was wrong
It was supporters

 

[City League Cbus Fan]

Those where not the 3 girls I was wrong
It was supporters

It's all good. I appreciate you contributing to this thread, for real. I just hope that the victims find peace. I feel sorry for them and for all families affected by this :/ Down in Cbus we have had our own issues with situations like this.

 

[Redhawk85]

Just to clarify, he is charged with sexual battery for conduct with a student between 2009 and 2010 while a teacher at West Geauga and he is charged with gross sexual imposition for conduct which occurred between 2004 and 2005 with someone under 13 years old. Both charges involve the same victim.

 

[City League Cbus Fan]

Just to clarify, he is charged with sexual battery for conduct with a student between 2009 and 2010 while a teacher at West Geauga and he is charged with gross sexual imposition for conduct which occurred between 2004 and 2005 with someone under 13 years old. Both charges involve the same victim.

Prayers and thoughts for that victim. Even if he is found not guilty it will hurt his ability to get hired elsewhere. :/
It is interesting that it shows the acts occurred between December and December of both years (12/04-12/05) and then again in 12/09-12/10. Unless they are using December to December just to show range.

 

[World breaker hulk 282]

I’m told no, actually know all 3 names . The 12 year old was before he was a teacher. The two other girls was when he was a first year teacher.
By the way he had a coach on his staff that later became a policeman in Chesterland . Who was caught last year , with sex with a west g student.
He was on lou football staff. So tell me the odds on 2 coaches on same staff that would later be charged as having sex with students. 1- 20 million?

RedHawk you may be correct but there was 3 complaints by total 3 woman I’m not sure if the other to complainants had enough evidence to bring to trial. But I know originally there was 3.

Ugly stuff really hope for the best for all parties
Whatever that could be. Lou wife and kids didn’t sign up for this. Wish these woman made these statements earlier in life. But I’m not in their shoes. So what I believe means nothing.
Best for all. Once again let’s get back to football. Heard Ignatious lost qb , moved to Florida and Woidke is not playing football.
Chalub looks like starter for now. Mentor should be much improved. As will be Cleveland hts.

 

[City League Cbus Fan]

I’m told no, actually know all 3 names . The 12 year old was before he was a teacher. The two other girls was when he was a first year teacher.
By the way he had a coach on his staff that later became a policeman in Chesterland . Who was caught last year , with sex with a west g student.
He was on lou football staff. So tell me the odds on 2 coaches on same staff that would later be charged as having sex with students. 1- 20 million?

RedHawk you may be correct but there was 3 complaints by total 3 woman I’m not sure if the other to complainants had enough evidence to bring to trial. But I know originally there was 3.

Ugly stuff really hope for the best for all parties
Whatever that could be. Lou wife and kids didn’t sign up for this. Wish these woman made these statements earlier in life. But I’m not in their shoes. So what I believe means nothing.
Best for all. Once again let’s get back to football. Heard Ignatious lost qb , moved to Florida and Woidke is not playing football.
Chalub looks like starter for now. Mentor should be much improved. As will be Cleveland hts.

Thanks again for clearing all of that up; it's a lot of names.

Football focus:
Do you think Perry or Aurora will win the CVC?
Lots going on. It's the best sport in the United States of America...
GO BROWNS and GO BUCKS

 

[The Dock]

In today's system, most defendants are pressured into accepting plea deals to avoid the risk of lengthy imprisonment.

Similarly, prosecutors may be pressured into offering plea deals because the evidence they have may not result in a conviction on the original charges.

See: Cutler, Joel.

 

[World breaker hulk 282]

Thanks again for clearing all of that up; it's a lot of names.

Football focus:
Do you think Perry or Aurora will win the CVC?
Lots going on. It's the best sport in the United States of America...
GO BROWNS and GO BUCKS

Haven’t checked returning players. Both top notch programs, Aurora more students to pull from

Best sports because you can be short heavy fast
Quick. Great hand eye
Different sizes shapes. Mostly there is a spot for 50% of country can play it at highschool level with heart determination

 

[pcbuck]

Thanks again for clearing all of that up; it's a lot of names.

Football focus:
Do you think Perry or Aurora will win the CVC?
Lots going on. It's the best sport in the United States of America...
GO BROWNS and GO BUCKS

Haven’t checked returning players. Both top notch programs, Aurora more students to pull from

Best sports because you can be short heavy fast
Quick. Great hand eye
Different sizes shapes. Mostly there is a spot for 50% of country can play it at highschool level with heart determination

Aurora’s not in the CVC. The Greenmen are in the Suburban League American.

 

[City League Cbus Fan]

Haven’t checked returning players. Both top notch programs, Aurora more students to pull from

Best sports because you can be short heavy fast
Quick. Great hand eye
Different sizes shapes. Mostly there is a spot for 50% of country can play it at highschool level with heart determination

I love your take here--it really is a universal sport. I remember growing up and seeing the little kids playing touch on the side, cheerleaders, etc. at the elementary/middle school level--and they knew, and we knew, that they'd grow up and be the stars on the field in a few years. It's all over America--I see why it's more popular than even soccer, basketball and baseball here!

 

[City League Cbus Fan]

Aurora’s not in the CVC. The Greenmen are in the Suburban League American.

Thanks for clarifying that! They used to be in the CVC years ago...and at one point the WRC. I know Kenston was in the WRC too in the '90s, for instance.

 

[reganaustinjames]

Thanks for clarifying that! They used to be in the CVC years ago...and at one point the WRC. I know Kenston was in the WRC too in the '90s, for instance.

Aurora was never in either league that's called itself the WRC (actually they were in the CVC during this time before their jump to the SL). Kenston, however, is one of three schools that has been in both WRC's