I don't say that. You have to learn to ignore stuff like that. There are different divisions for a reason.I understand that D1 is the hardest to win at some weights and some kids may never win a state title because of a kid or too that may have their number,but the disrespect for D2 and D3 is just awful.those kids competing in those divisions deserve better from the critics because it’s not like kids are not wrestling each other at other tournaments.Ohio as a whole has some of the best kids in country and for us to say that your D2 or d3 title is less than a d1 title is the robbery
Let the speculation begin. Straight up according to results. No flipping or bumping.Not directly on point, and of course we can only speculate, but I've always wondered what the results would be if there was a tri-meet with the three teams consisting of the D-I, D-II, and D-III champions.
Division 1 | Division 3 | ||
106 | Brandon Bickerton 9 - Med Highland (42-5) | vs | Michael Frye 10 - Columbia (39-8) |
113 | Grey Burnett 9 - Perrysburg (44-3) | vs | Adam Mattin 11 - Delta (45-2) |
120 | Karson Brown 10 - St. Edward (37-4) | vs | Logan Dean 12 - Bethel-Tate (37-2) |
126 | Cole Evans 11 - Perrysburg (33-5) | vs | Nathan Attisano 10 - Legacy Christian (39-6) |
132 | Marcus Blaze 11 - Perrysburg (50-1) | vs | Dillon Campbell 12 - Legacy Christian (43-4) |
138 | Kade Brown 12 - St. Edward (38-6) | vs | Wyatt Hinton 12 - Norwood (49-1) |
144 | Ryan Bennett 12 - St. Edward (35-4) | vs | Brodie Dominique 12 - Archbold (56-1) |
150 | Jaxon Joy 12 - Wadsworth (51-3) | vs | Reese Stephen 12 - Barnesville (54-3) |
157 | Eugene Harney 12 - Sycamore (44-3) | vs | Skyler King 12 - Barnesville (54-3) |
165 | Ethan Birden 12 - Dub. Coffman (47-2) | vs | Kohen Horvath 12 - Mil. Edison (57-2) |
175 | Carson Thomas 11 - La Salle (47-4) | vs | Luke James 11 - Mil. Edison (57-1) |
190 | Matt Kowalski 11 - Springboro (49-4) | vs | Keegan Sell 12 - Gar. Garfield (54-1) |
215 | Jonny Slaper 12 - St. Edward (22-6) | vs | Abe DeLano 12 - Ayersville (57-2) |
285 | Aidan Fockler 12 - Mass. Perry (44-2) | vs | Caleb Cunningham 12 - Ash. Crestview (43-3) |
Division 2 | Division 3 | ||
106 | Marius Garcia 11 - Bexley (51-0) | vs | Michael Frye 10 - Columbia (39-8) |
113 | Blake Bartos 10 - Buckeye (48-3) | vs | Adam Mattin 11 - Delta (45-2) |
120 | Colyn Limbert 12 - Buckeye (51-3) | vs | Logan Dean 12 - Bethel-Tate (37-2) |
126 | Tate Hisey 11 - St. Marys Memorial (45-2) | vs | Nathan Attisano 10 - Legacy Christian (39-6) |
132 | Aiden King 11 - Hartley (39-6) | vs | Dillon Campbell 12 - Legacy Christian (43-4) |
138 | Hayden Hughes 12 - Graham Local (30-10) | vs | Wyatt Hinton 12 - Norwood (49-1) |
144 | Brogan Tucker 11 - Graham Local (39-4) | vs | Brodie Dominique 12 - Archbold (56-1) |
150 | Brody Saccoccia 11 - Steubenville (50-3) | vs | Reese Stephen 12 - Barnesville (54-3) |
157 | Kaden King 12 - Buckeye (32-4) | vs | Skyler King 12 - Barnesville (54-3) |
165 | Michael Boyle 9 - Watterson (43-4) | vs | Kohen Horvath 12 - Mil. Edison (57-2) |
175 | Gunner Cramblett 12 - Graham Local (40-4) | vs | Luke James 11 - Mil. Edison (57-1) |
190 | Eddie Neitenbach 12 - Buckeye (47-1) | vs | Keegan Sell 12 - Gar. Garfield (54-1) |
215 | Max Shulaw 12 - Col. DeSales (49-1) | vs | Abe DeLano 12 - Ayersville (57-2) |
285 | Aidan Mozden 12 - Alliance (15-1) | vs | Caleb Cunningham 12 - Ash. Crestview (43-3) |
Division 1 | Division 2 | ||
106 | Brandon Bickerton 9 - Med Highland (42-5) | vs | Marius Garcia 11 - Bexley (51-0) |
113 | Grey Burnett 9 - Perrysburg (44-3) | vs | Blake Bartos 10 - Buckeye (48-3) |
120 | Karson Brown 10 - St. Edward (37-4) | vs | Colyn Limbert 12 - Buckeye (51-3) |
126 | Cole Evans 11 - Perrysburg (33-5) | vs | Tate Hisey 11 - St. Marys Memorial (45-2) |
132 | Marcus Blaze 11 - Perrysburg (50-1) | vs | Aiden King 11 - Hartley (39-6) |
138 | Kade Brown 12 - St. Edward (38-6) | vs | Hayden Hughes 12 - Graham Local (30-10) |
144 | Ryan Bennett 12 - St. Edward (35-4) | vs | Brogan Tucker 11 - Graham Local (39-4) |
150 | Jaxon Joy 12 - Wadsworth (51-3) | vs | Brody Saccoccia 11 - Steubenville (50-3) |
157 | Eugene Harney 12 - Sycamore (44-3) | vs | Kaden King 12 - Buckeye (32-4) |
165 | Ethan Birden 12 - Dub. Coffman (47-2) | vs | Michael Boyle 9 - Watterson (43-4) |
175 | Carson Thomas 11 - La Salle (47-4) | vs | Gunner Cramblett 12 - Graham Local (40-4) |
190 | Matt Kowalski 11 - Springboro (49-4) | vs | Eddie Neitenbach 12 - Buckeye (47-1) |
215 | Jonny Slaper 12 - St. Edward (22-6) | vs | Max Shulaw 12 - Col. DeSales (49-1) |
285 | Aidan Fockler 12 - Mass. Perry (44-2) | vs | Aidan Mozden 12 - Alliance (15-1) |
I think DubStat has a feature that can do predictions.Let the speculation begin. Straight up according to results. No flipping or bumping.
Match 1.
Match 2
Division 1 Division 3 106 Brandon Bickerton 9 - Med Highland (42-5) vs Michael Frye 10 - Columbia (39-8) 113 Grey Burnett 9 - Perrysburg (44-3) vs Adam Mattin 11 - Delta (45-2) 120 Karson Brown 10 - St. Edward (37-4) vs Logan Dean 12 - Bethel-Tate (37-2) 126 Cole Evans 11 - Perrysburg (33-5) vs Nathan Attisano 10 - Legacy Christian (39-6) 132 Marcus Blaze 11 - Perrysburg (50-1) vs Dillon Campbell 12 - Legacy Christian (43-4) 138 Kade Brown 12 - St. Edward (38-6) vs Wyatt Hinton 12 - Norwood (49-1) 144 Ryan Bennett 12 - St. Edward (35-4) vs Brodie Dominique 12 - Archbold (56-1) 150 Jaxon Joy 12 - Wadsworth (51-3) vs Reese Stephen 12 - Barnesville (54-3) 157 Eugene Harney 12 - Sycamore (44-3) vs Skyler King 12 - Barnesville (54-3) 165 Ethan Birden 12 - Dub. Coffman (47-2) vs Kohen Horvath 12 - Mil. Edison (57-2) 175 Carson Thomas 11 - La Salle (47-4) vs Luke James 11 - Mil. Edison (57-1) 190 Matt Kowalski 11 - Springboro (49-4) vs Keegan Sell 12 - Gar. Garfield (54-1) 215 Jonny Slaper 12 - St. Edward (22-6) vs Abe DeLano 12 - Ayersville (57-2) 285 Aidan Fockler 12 - Mass. Perry (44-2) vs Caleb Cunningham 12 - Ash. Crestview (43-3)
Match 3
Division 2 Division 3 106 Marius Garcia 11 - Bexley (51-0) vs Michael Frye 10 - Columbia (39-8) 113 Blake Bartos 10 - Buckeye (48-3) vs Adam Mattin 11 - Delta (45-2) 120 Colyn Limbert 12 - Buckeye (51-3) vs Logan Dean 12 - Bethel-Tate (37-2) 126 Tate Hisey 11 - St. Marys Memorial (45-2) vs Nathan Attisano 10 - Legacy Christian (39-6) 132 Aiden King 11 - Hartley (39-6) vs Dillon Campbell 12 - Legacy Christian (43-4) 138 Hayden Hughes 12 - Graham Local (30-10) vs Wyatt Hinton 12 - Norwood (49-1) 144 Brogan Tucker 11 - Graham Local (39-4) vs Brodie Dominique 12 - Archbold (56-1) 150 Brody Saccoccia 11 - Steubenville (50-3) vs Reese Stephen 12 - Barnesville (54-3) 157 Kaden King 12 - Buckeye (32-4) vs Skyler King 12 - Barnesville (54-3) 165 Michael Boyle 9 - Watterson (43-4) vs Kohen Horvath 12 - Mil. Edison (57-2) 175 Gunner Cramblett 12 - Graham Local (40-4) vs Luke James 11 - Mil. Edison (57-1) 190 Eddie Neitenbach 12 - Buckeye (47-1) vs Keegan Sell 12 - Gar. Garfield (54-1) 215 Max Shulaw 12 - Col. DeSales (49-1) vs Abe DeLano 12 - Ayersville (57-2) 285 Aidan Mozden 12 - Alliance (15-1) vs Caleb Cunningham 12 - Ash. Crestview (43-3)
Division 1 Division 2 106 Brandon Bickerton 9 - Med Highland (42-5) vs Marius Garcia 11 - Bexley (51-0) 113 Grey Burnett 9 - Perrysburg (44-3) vs Blake Bartos 10 - Buckeye (48-3) 120 Karson Brown 10 - St. Edward (37-4) vs Colyn Limbert 12 - Buckeye (51-3) 126 Cole Evans 11 - Perrysburg (33-5) vs Tate Hisey 11 - St. Marys Memorial (45-2) 132 Marcus Blaze 11 - Perrysburg (50-1) vs Aiden King 11 - Hartley (39-6) 138 Kade Brown 12 - St. Edward (38-6) vs Hayden Hughes 12 - Graham Local (30-10) 144 Ryan Bennett 12 - St. Edward (35-4) vs Brogan Tucker 11 - Graham Local (39-4) 150 Jaxon Joy 12 - Wadsworth (51-3) vs Brody Saccoccia 11 - Steubenville (50-3) 157 Eugene Harney 12 - Sycamore (44-3) vs Kaden King 12 - Buckeye (32-4) 165 Ethan Birden 12 - Dub. Coffman (47-2) vs Michael Boyle 9 - Watterson (43-4) 175 Carson Thomas 11 - La Salle (47-4) vs Gunner Cramblett 12 - Graham Local (40-4) 190 Matt Kowalski 11 - Springboro (49-4) vs Eddie Neitenbach 12 - Buckeye (47-1) 215 Jonny Slaper 12 - St. Edward (22-6) vs Max Shulaw 12 - Col. DeSales (49-1) 285 Aidan Fockler 12 - Mass. Perry (44-2) vs Aidan Mozden 12 - Alliance (15-1)
Math #3 would be more like 10-4 or 9-5 at worst.My speculation
Match 1 D1 wins 12-2
Match 2 D2 wins 8-6
Match 3 D1 wins 8-6
As a retired official/coach that began in the 70's this would be a terrible decision. There was a time when D-3 was pretty much disrespected (like an illegitimate brother). Thank goodness the pendulum swung to give them their deserved respect. With the sad state of sectionals today I couldn't imagine the lack of competition we'd see if we went to four divisions. Watered down wouldn't be a good enough descriptor. LOL!! IF anything, they should go to two divisions. Sectionals would go back to being competitive.OHSAA is working towards more divisions expect 4 in wrestling eventually - a lot more money in 4 divisions than in 3. Who cares how many kids celebrate - the more the merrier.
Word from someone VERY high up in the food chain is that there is zero way to justify 4 divisions unless the male population suddenly increases. While he said a case could be made for making it 2 divisions, that is not likely at all.As a retired official/coach that began in the 70's this would be a terrible decision. There was a time when D-3 was pretty much disrespected (like an illegitimate brother). Thank goodness the pendulum swung to give them their deserved respect. With the sad state of sectionals today I couldn't imagine the lack of competition we'd see if we went to four divisions. Watered down wouldn't be a good enough descriptor. LOL!! IF anything, they should go to two divisions. Sectionals would go back to being competitive.
Why are we looking at who is better,these kids wrestle each other all season long the point that needs to be addressed is we have 3 divisions that all wrestle at the same state tournament together and once your a state champion you are a championLet the speculation begin. Straight up according to results. No flipping or bumping.
Match 1.
Match 2
Division 1 Division 3 106 Brandon Bickerton 9 - Med Highland (42-5) vs Michael Frye 10 - Columbia (39-8) 113 Grey Burnett 9 - Perrysburg (44-3) vs Adam Mattin 11 - Delta (45-2) 120 Karson Brown 10 - St. Edward (37-4) vs Logan Dean 12 - Bethel-Tate (37-2) 126 Cole Evans 11 - Perrysburg (33-5) vs Nathan Attisano 10 - Legacy Christian (39-6) 132 Marcus Blaze 11 - Perrysburg (50-1) vs Dillon Campbell 12 - Legacy Christian (43-4) 138 Kade Brown 12 - St. Edward (38-6) vs Wyatt Hinton 12 - Norwood (49-1) 144 Ryan Bennett 12 - St. Edward (35-4) vs Brodie Dominique 12 - Archbold (56-1) 150 Jaxon Joy 12 - Wadsworth (51-3) vs Reese Stephen 12 - Barnesville (54-3) 157 Eugene Harney 12 - Sycamore (44-3) vs Skyler King 12 - Barnesville (54-3) 165 Ethan Birden 12 - Dub. Coffman (47-2) vs Kohen Horvath 12 - Mil. Edison (57-2) 175 Carson Thomas 11 - La Salle (47-4) vs Luke James 11 - Mil. Edison (57-1) 190 Matt Kowalski 11 - Springboro (49-4) vs Keegan Sell 12 - Gar. Garfield (54-1) 215 Jonny Slaper 12 - St. Edward (22-6) vs Abe DeLano 12 - Ayersville (57-2) 285 Aidan Fockler 12 - Mass. Perry (44-2) vs Caleb Cunningham 12 - Ash. Crestview (43-3)
Match 3
Division 2 Division 3 106 Marius Garcia 11 - Bexley (51-0) vs Michael Frye 10 - Columbia (39-8) 113 Blake Bartos 10 - Buckeye (48-3) vs Adam Mattin 11 - Delta (45-2) 120 Colyn Limbert 12 - Buckeye (51-3) vs Logan Dean 12 - Bethel-Tate (37-2) 126 Tate Hisey 11 - St. Marys Memorial (45-2) vs Nathan Attisano 10 - Legacy Christian (39-6) 132 Aiden King 11 - Hartley (39-6) vs Dillon Campbell 12 - Legacy Christian (43-4) 138 Hayden Hughes 12 - Graham Local (30-10) vs Wyatt Hinton 12 - Norwood (49-1) 144 Brogan Tucker 11 - Graham Local (39-4) vs Brodie Dominique 12 - Archbold (56-1) 150 Brody Saccoccia 11 - Steubenville (50-3) vs Reese Stephen 12 - Barnesville (54-3) 157 Kaden King 12 - Buckeye (32-4) vs Skyler King 12 - Barnesville (54-3) 165 Michael Boyle 9 - Watterson (43-4) vs Kohen Horvath 12 - Mil. Edison (57-2) 175 Gunner Cramblett 12 - Graham Local (40-4) vs Luke James 11 - Mil. Edison (57-1) 190 Eddie Neitenbach 12 - Buckeye (47-1) vs Keegan Sell 12 - Gar. Garfield (54-1) 215 Max Shulaw 12 - Col. DeSales (49-1) vs Abe DeLano 12 - Ayersville (57-2) 285 Aidan Mozden 12 - Alliance (15-1) vs Caleb Cunningham 12 - Ash. Crestview (43-3)
Division 1 Division 2 106 Brandon Bickerton 9 - Med Highland (42-5) vs Marius Garcia 11 - Bexley (51-0) 113 Grey Burnett 9 - Perrysburg (44-3) vs Blake Bartos 10 - Buckeye (48-3) 120 Karson Brown 10 - St. Edward (37-4) vs Colyn Limbert 12 - Buckeye (51-3) 126 Cole Evans 11 - Perrysburg (33-5) vs Tate Hisey 11 - St. Marys Memorial (45-2) 132 Marcus Blaze 11 - Perrysburg (50-1) vs Aiden King 11 - Hartley (39-6) 138 Kade Brown 12 - St. Edward (38-6) vs Hayden Hughes 12 - Graham Local (30-10) 144 Ryan Bennett 12 - St. Edward (35-4) vs Brogan Tucker 11 - Graham Local (39-4) 150 Jaxon Joy 12 - Wadsworth (51-3) vs Brody Saccoccia 11 - Steubenville (50-3) 157 Eugene Harney 12 - Sycamore (44-3) vs Kaden King 12 - Buckeye (32-4) 165 Ethan Birden 12 - Dub. Coffman (47-2) vs Michael Boyle 9 - Watterson (43-4) 175 Carson Thomas 11 - La Salle (47-4) vs Gunner Cramblett 12 - Graham Local (40-4) 190 Matt Kowalski 11 - Springboro (49-4) vs Eddie Neitenbach 12 - Buckeye (47-1) 215 Jonny Slaper 12 - St. Edward (22-6) vs Max Shulaw 12 - Col. DeSales (49-1) 285 Aidan Fockler 12 - Mass. Perry (44-2) vs Aidan Mozden 12 - Alliance (15-1)
What would be the fun in that?I think DubStat has a feature that can do predictions.
.... There was a time when D-3 was pretty much disrespected (like an illegitimate brother). ...
Match 3 might be 12-2 with only 190 and 215 going D2Math #3 would be more like 10-4 or 9-5 at worst.
Cramblett already beat #1 and #2 in D1. So that is at least 11-3.Match 3 might be 12-2 with only 190 and 215 going D2
If you remember, up until ‘89, the numbers for the three divisions weren’t even like they are now.Heck yea. AA and AAA were placing 6 at St. John's, A was placing 4 at the local college gym.