I'm just telling you what I have been told. If you don't have any kids, or the many expenses that going with having multiple kids then you wouldn't know.
If they’re living in Miami Heights, they can swing it. I can understand choosing X or LS but it’s unfathomable to me to pick Taylor over Elder, unless there’s some extreme circumstances.
The cost savings alone over 4 years (free vs. an average tuition of maybe $6,000) is significant - now multiple by 2-3x for the number of kids. Plenty of people would choose to put that $75k to other things if they're convinced Taylor can get their child ready for college or a job. And by all accounts, they do that just fine.
That handful of Visi kids did great things at Taylor and earned the opportunity to play at the college level. They also set an example for "Elder" families to come that you can go to Taylor for free, get a great education, and play at the college level. Hilvert and Austing weren't going to see the floor for Elder basketball. Taylor is a sleeping giant at the D2/3 level, it all comes down to if more and more kids go that route who live in the Bridgetown Rapid Run area. Also at Taylor their athletics aren't treated as life and death. A lot of kids are 3 sport athletes there instead of 1 or 2 at the most.
They didn’t win a damn thing at Taylor. All of you guys want to ride Taylor’s tip and talk down about Elder.
Those kids in Indiana can’t play sports unless they went to St Lawrence.
Agree on just about everything, but I think Austing would have been a great addition on Elder's basketball team. He's arguably just as good of a player as Keller and Harp - I can see arguments both ways. Yes, Austing played against lesser competition, but also had better numbers. Harp a better shooter, Austing perhaps a better all-around player.
Again, in a parents eyes, winning is jut icing on the cake. I can almost guarantee those parents 100% felt they made the right call for their kid.
Let's be clear:
100% agree. It's not just a fun-neighborhood rivalry. There's true bad blood and hatred between the students and athletes.
Sure, from a semantics perspective.
Didn't someone mention on page 1 that there are like 30 some odd WRs and DBs in this class. If half your team are WRs/DBs, that tells me you're extremely small up front and as a result will struggle against anyone with even average size.
I think this theme will become more and more prevalent. The size just isn't there anymore and in my opinion, is the biggest difference. Yes, speed is a concern, but E was never a team with a ton of speedsters - but they have had size over the years. That's one of the biggest differences when I see Elder teams, and noticeable when you watch the GCYL westside teams play.
Maybe. Maybe not. The current Freshmen and junior high kids know of him, but going much younger will those kids actually care or remember?
Here's the bottom line and what I feel is a relatively consistent response from people I know at all of the GCL schools:
Well he did say being that close to Elder, so that's probably where the expectation came from.
That's my point - I would probably choose Elder. But I wouldn't expect it to be the first choice even for a kid that lived by Elder if he had grown up in urban public schools. That's probably just as hard of a sell for that kid to go to Elder as it would a Catholic kid to go to West Hi or Oak Hills.
Honestly wouldn't say the Catholic reach has expanded. I would say their academic reach has expanded.
Huh? Race baiting?
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I think it went over your head
No, your post was poorly worded. And I don’t think 5 years is really a “short” period of time. There’s going to be down cycles, but it sucks when the train is barreling down and there’s nowhere to move.
No, it wasn’t. You guys were rambling on about how a down class can be a slippery slope. Clearly that wasn’t the case back then. The point is, one down class isn’t and won’t be the end of the world.
Kids there can also easily quit a sport in, let’s say fall, and play another sport in the fall the next year and get playing time. But those kids and the 3 sport athletes can do that for now. As the school continues to grow and draw better athletes, those same kids are going to face stiffer competition for spots on teams and playing time. Have to imagine that’ll be good for their athletics as a whole and kids there will take them at least a bit more seriously.
I never said that, I explicitly said there’s a floor that keeps them from being really bad, but there’s a ceiling that makes sustained high levels of success incredibly difficult.
This is true about one friend and one acquaintance of mine that live in Harrison. They were both planning on sending their boys to Elder, but the logistics and costs of Harrison HS outweighed the benefits of Elder to their family. Neither of these families boys are "jocks", but they were still Elder families that made alternative choices.