2022 Southwestern Buckeye League
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Look at these two, no one cares about Madison carlisle game. The 2 worst programs in the area. Lets not forget CHS 91 won 4 games in his Jr and SR years. Whos smoking what?
Look out Camden is in the house trying to learn how to spell. Hey Big Arrow I got one hot off the press for you. Preble Shawnees head coach thats been there awhile will be at Carlisle next year. He is a Carlisle alumni. Don't worry CHS91 we will slow down so you can keep up.
BigArrrow
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Dave Maddox is Shawnee’s HC graduated from Shawnee in 02 or 03, you must be talking about the OC and I got one hot off the press for you no one would care if he packed up and left tomorrow.
Here's my two cents worth. While this is a football board we need to look at the other sports also. Carlisle is usually good in baseball, will probably win the West division in basketball and is solid in wrestling so they have athletes just need to get them one the football field. Madison has athletes but needs to get them on the football field. New head coaches at both May solve that. I just don't see Carlisle leaving simply because they are basically in the middle of the SWBL. I can't see any league wanting Madison until they get new leadership in the AD office.
I understand why MU and PS left. MU was travel and PS went to a league that was all around their size. It also helped MU in other sports like basketball. Isn't Shawnee the biggest school in their league?
Last thing, whoever said VV won in football in '97 because of an Arrow sure doesn't know what he's talking about. Bundy was an OK player but VV would have won without him.
I understand why MU and PS left. MU was travel and PS went to a league that was all around their size. It also helped MU in other sports like basketball. Isn't Shawnee the biggest school in their league?
Last thing, whoever said VV won in football in '97 because of an Arrow sure doesn't know what he's talking about. Bundy was an OK player but VV would have won without him.
DatDudeKid
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I believe the Arrow they were referring to was Tanner. Sounds like there were multiple Preble guys on that team?
Bless Em All
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The TRC is very strong in basketball. Milton left for all the right reasons. Period.
formercardinal
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Couldn't agree more about Brown. Was great with the kids, had success and had the numbers close to 50 if I recall. If I'm the current AD at Carlisle, I'm knocking on his door to gauge his interest.
DatDudeKid
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What reasons other than travel?
BadDog69
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Don't know the details, but the current AD is the one who got rid of Brown. There will be no knocks on Brown's door unless the current AD is spineless or there's a new AD coming to the Indian Nation.
runninwater
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Brown isn’t a family friend of/hasn’t previously worked with the current AD somewhere else so there’s one reason that’s a reach
Spartan119
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He was a new AD must of had little Johnny and joeys parents in his ear when he got there because mean coach Brown evaluated talent with his D1 eye and explained your son not very good at football is why we aren’t winning games in 2018, got rid of him and got that big win over Dixie in a nail biter the next season to go 1-9 under Clod the rebuilderDon't know the details, but the current AD is the one who got rid of Brown. There will be no knocks on Brown's door unless the current AD is spineless or there's a new AD coming to the Indian Nation.
Gamma Gobbler
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I think I read somewhere that Bellbrook and Valley View are playing this week.
BB outright East Champ and VV looking for a solo title in the West. Would this be considered a rivalry game?
BB outright East Champ and VV looking for a solo title in the West. Would this be considered a rivalry game?
Spartan119
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Couple historic SWBL teams not sure of rivalry but had some of the most exceptional players to ever Grace the field in the league. Excited to watch this one! Go 
indian pride
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Brown stepped down from coaching he said it was family health issues I personally would say it was from mom's and dad's screaming at him from stands every Friday night
He was a new AD must of had little Johnny and joeys parents in his ear when he got there because mean coach Brown evaluated talent with his D1 eye and explained your son not very good at football is why we aren’t winning games in 2018, got rid of him and got that big win over Dixie in a nail biter the next season to go 1-9 under Clod the rebuilder
Gamma Gobbler
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I posted on another thread that I favor VV in this game with Benson and Clark being the difference while BB Wing-T tries to play catch up. Glad to see VV kids stepped up considering the past couple of years of coaching uncertainties.Couple historic SWBL teams not sure of rivalry but had some of the most exceptional players to ever Grace the field in the league. Excited to watch this one! Go
IMO, VV controls Region 20 with a win and a date with a state semi-final. BB, good luck, your Region 12 is not so easy, especially with Badin being there.
ex_dc_atc
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I think BB's rushing attack can make this a close game, and maybe lower scoring. They have a history the past two seasons of getting into some lower scoring, defensive battles (Badin x2, Tipp City, etc.) in bigger games. I do think that Valley View's rush defense is very strong this season. If BB wants to move the ball consistently, it may come from playaction passing.
To be honest, Brookville and Valley View were 7-0 at halftime and that was on a Pick-6 by VV. Brookville's rushing attack kept the ball from VV most of the first half. Then a special teams TD, a good drive, etc., and VV pulled away in the second half. Led 21-0 at one point but won 28-14. I could see Bellbrook using a similar formula.
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Spartan119
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Bellbrook with that bigger school depth, but I trying to be unbiased VV by 10
NewOldBlood
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Well the SWOC is terrible this year, so there's that. There will be no dominating the SWBL, but they will be the biggest school in the conference so that will give them a bit of an edge.
NewOldBlood
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Week 10 Games:
Bellbrook @ Valley View-I think the Spartans win a close one, but it's always tough to pick against Bellbrook. I won't be surprised if it comes down to special teams and someone wins by a FG. Something in the 17-14 range.
Eaton @ Monroe-Monroe pulls it out on senior night. They've played some good D the last several weeks and have cleaned up the penalties and stupid mistakes. They are playing well at the right time and I think they win by a couple of scores.
Brookville @ Franklin-The Wildcats have shown some fight the last couple of weeks, but the Blue Devils are too much. Brookville by 14+.
Waynesville @ Carlisle-Waynesville wins but it might be closer than some think.
Middletown Madison @ Oakwood-The Jacks win by 21+
Bellbrook @ Valley View-I think the Spartans win a close one, but it's always tough to pick against Bellbrook. I won't be surprised if it comes down to special teams and someone wins by a FG. Something in the 17-14 range.
Eaton @ Monroe-Monroe pulls it out on senior night. They've played some good D the last several weeks and have cleaned up the penalties and stupid mistakes. They are playing well at the right time and I think they win by a couple of scores.
Brookville @ Franklin-The Wildcats have shown some fight the last couple of weeks, but the Blue Devils are too much. Brookville by 14+.
Waynesville @ Carlisle-Waynesville wins but it might be closer than some think.
Middletown Madison @ Oakwood-The Jacks win by 21+
speedthatkills
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I agree they will not dominate but they will challenge for the title regularly. The thing that makes the SWBL so interesting is the depth of quality. When your schedule includes teams like Monroe, Ross, BB, VV, Eaton, and Franklin rather than Ross, MtH, NW, Harrison, and Talawanda there is a significant chance of upsets because you do not have as many "easy" games. Edgewood will be just fine in FB. Add in the fact that you are getting another small town team and the environment it creates, the fall of 23 will be great for FB.
BBfan61
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Yeah I'm not worried about competition, the comment was on I have no care to watch Talawanda.
BBfan61
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So half of the small schools left? In a conference that was majority small interesting...
Pull-to-Trap
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The only consistent competition for Edgewood on that list is Franklin. Monroe hasn't given them a game in years, Ross is hit and miss. The most consistent competition has come from Harrison and Mt Healthy, just not recently.
I can't wait to see how VV and BB play.
BBfan61
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Bellbrook generally considered Oakwood to be the primary rivalry but VV also is considered. Lot's of history in the 90's and 00's
Yes, it was Tanner. My mistake. He was the PS guy on that team but Shawnee also had Bundy and Williams transferred for that senior year. Williams went right back to Shawnee for basketball after football was over.
Spartan119
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Williams was the Qb, I thought that’s who he was talking about, nice athlete
BadDog69
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If the guy couldn’t get through one bad season then probably not an option. Don’t know anything about the coaches back then but leading a small program in the new SWBL wont be for the faint of heart.
indian pride
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Carlisle would be lucky to get brown back he was a great coach. Who ever takes over better have thick skin it's going to be rough for the next 3 or 4 year's in Carlisle