Means nothing against the principle of unlimited executive privilege. The Democrat principle is: The President has unlimited authority to declassify any document he wants unless he's Trump. The President has unlimited authority to categorize any record he wants as part of his personal records unless he's Trump. The Presidential Records Act has no formal penalties unless it's Trump in which case he blocked from running again.18 USC 793 is part of Chapter 37 of the United States Code...titled the ESPIONAGE AND CENSORSHIP ACT.
I agree with you. I identified the complete title of a federal law.Means nothing…
Happy "heard" this ?This summary of events I just heard leading to the execution of the warrant was interesting and may demonstrate how much trouble Trump is in:
When the FBI went to Mar-o-Lago based on National Archives documents issue and Trump turned over the initial 15 boxes FBI noticed a lot of the material Trump still had was top secret and classified.
Those agents notified Department of Justice who reviewed the list of material and selected Jay Bratt to negotiate with Trump and his lawyers about the boxes still at Mar-o-Lago. Jay Bratt is the head of counter intelligence and export control (whose job, remember, is to prevent nuclear proliferation) for DOJ, not the FBI.
When Bratt saw the documents there he obtained a subpoena to review video taken by Mar-o-Lago’s security system. Bratt was able to see who was accessing the rooms where Trump was storing the classified material. This is the point DOJ immediately went for the warrant.
I killed more communists then your sorry a$s ever could imagineTake your Commie chit out to the street with the rest of the trash.
Is it the speech or the brain listening?No, I'm not in favor of censoring "speach" or "speech" for that matter...
I do sometimes think that anonymous communication on the internet has not been very healthy for the social fabric.
Since I've been there and done that as a magical middle person I can recognize how your argument falls apart in the first sentence: The position of one side in this debate is not extreme. This is NOT an argument between a socialist on one side and a fascist on the other.OK, so your advice is to pick one extreme or the other and go "all-in"? Either a Socialist state or a Fascist state? No thanks.
I'll expand on my previous example to show why this is misleading and a Trojan horse guaranteed to allow the left to triumph over conservatism:In America we used to be able to govern by being reasonable and compromising. Been a Republican my whole adult life becuase I prefer in smaller government and capitalism / free markets. America was at it's peak when the moderates in both parties were able to compromise and arrive at governing decisions. The polarization is so intense now that all "governing" is simply arguing, name-calling, and grandstanding for the next election. And morons/criminals like Gaetz, MTG, Hawley, Boebert now occupy seats in Congress representing my party?
SPOT ON.OK, so your advice is to pick one extreme or the other and go "all-in"? Either a Socialist state or a Fascist state? No thanks.
In America we used to be able to govern by being reasonable and compromising. Been a Republican my whole adult life becuase I prefer in smaller government and capitalism / free markets. America was at it's peak when the moderates in both parties were able to compromise and arrive at governing decisions. The polarization is so intense now that all "governing" is simply arguing, name-calling, and grandstanding for the next election. And morons/criminals like Gaetz, MTG, Hawley, Boebert now occupy seats in Congress representing my party?
Meanwhile, America flounders. And the masses have been duped into thinking their side is 100% right, and the other side is 100% wrong. Sorry, that is not how the world works. Shades of grey are everywhere. Time to grow up everyone. Find some reasonable adults to run the country.
2022 Tribunals and death sentences. One up is the game.The core of this argument we are having is whether this unprecedented action, where a Dem DOJ gets a warrant to raid the home of an ex-president and leading candidate in the next coming election represents a necessary step to protect the US/uphold the rule of law or is the weaponization and politicization of the DOJ/FBI against a political opponent. Secondary complications are the low perception of credibility of the DOJ/FBI by a large pct of Americans and the firm belief of another large pct of Americans that Bad Orange Man is criminally bad.
But we can get to the crux of the important elements of this by asking our Marcusian lefties a couple of questionsand see if they can provide answers.
Given that a red line has been crossed, or, if you prefer, something that has never happened before has now happened, what are the rules going forward as to who can repeat this action and what are the exact criteria that would justify doing it again?
What do you anticipate the new red line is and can you tell us exactly what it is?
Are you comfortable with the thought of, say, a Pres Trump 47 DOJ taking the same action?
Now, they will not answer those questions. They can't because if they try, they will fall into double standards, irrational statements, and reveal their authoritarian bent. They may, probably will, talk about how stupid I am, I'm in a cult, accuse me of conspiracy theories and blah, yada, blah, blah, blah.
However, I want to preemptively assert that the questions are entirely reasonable - and they did not answer them. But maybe someone will surprise me.
After I see the responses, and lack thereof, then I will explain why their ideology is reflected in it. Stay tuned. It will be fun.
Absolutely! And look how my intuition is correct. You should be praising me like an all knowing Asian Budda.Mean machine has literally bragged that it's his...
?????????. OK. You can keep trying to run a criminal empire but Americans are growing tired of the stupidity and BS. MAGA is done. Just like Trump!! ?????????????????????MAGA isn't going anywhere. In fact it's poised to control Congress in November.
Melania could start a shyte storm by having a press conference saying multiple pairs of her panties are missing ?
Today's round of golf was especially relaxing. The crisp summer air, the birds singing, the trees full and lush, and Trump finally getting brought to justice. Great round!!!
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They are tired of the stupidity and BS and double standards and arrogance of the left.?????????. OK. You can keep trying to run a criminal empire but Americans are growing tired of the stupidity and BS. MAGA is done. Just like Trump!! ?????????????????????
I hope not.2022 Tribunals and death sentences. One up is the game.
These geniuses want to be like the EU and give away our sovereignty to unelected bureaucrats in Brussels.I hope not.
Dismantle the administrative state and pass strict civil service reform. Fire the middle and upper crust of these dpts and agencies, and, if I had my way, make allegience to the RNC or DNC, or anything other than the constitution punishable with death by hanging or firing squad. Then we can trust our govt again - regardless of who is in the White House.
I'm willing to live under liberal, even leftist-progressive govt if Americans want to be idiots and vote for their own destruction and enslavement. If it becomes chronic, I can immigrate to somewhere that is free. But I am not willing to live under the tyranny of unelected bureaucrats.
Take the administrative state away from the Left and you go a long way toward neutering those commie illegitimate children and restoring our constitutional republic.
The core of this argument we are having is whether this unprecedented action, where a Dem DOJ gets a warrant to raid the home of an ex-president and leading candidate in the next coming election represents a necessary step to protect the US/uphold the rule of law or is the weaponization and politicization of the DOJ/FBI against a political opponent. Secondary complications are the low perception of credibility of the DOJ/FBI by a large pct of Americans and the firm belief of another large pct of Americans that Bad Orange Man is criminally bad.
But we can get to the crux of the important elements of this by asking our Marcusian lefties a couple of questions and see if they can provide answers.
Given that a red line has been crossed, or, if you prefer, something that has never happened before has now happened, what are the rules going forward as to who can repeat this action and what are the exact criteria that would justify doing it again?
What do you anticipate the new red line is and can you tell us exactly what it is?
Are you comfortable with the thought of, say, a Pres Trump 47 DOJ taking the same action?
Now, they will not answer those questions. They can't because if they try, they will fall into double standards, irrational statements, and reveal their authoritarian bent. They may, probably will, talk about how stupid I am, I'm in a cult, accuse me of conspiracy theories and blah, yada, blah, blah, blah.
However, I want to preemptively assert that the questions are entirely reasonable - and they did not answer them. But maybe someone will surprise me.
After I see the responses, and lack thereof, then I will explain why their ideology is reflected in it. Stay tuned. It will be fun.
The Saudis don’t count. Selective memory.When we find out Trump took influence money from China and Ukraine via his son, and laundered money for the last 30 years or so, you might have a point.
Until then, take a hike.
The two don’t compare. We are talking about Trumpattempting to commit treason two times.There were multiple servers involved over a number of years. It was impossible for the FBI to know for certain what was deleted and destroyed; they admitted as much. Yet they then took the bizarre step of actually inserting themselves to recommend to the justice department that no charges be filed.
Two sets of justice at the federal level. The set that includes spying, armed raids and handcuffs for innocent republicans; and the set that allows corrupt, criminal democrats to walk. Plain as day.
You don’t declassify top secret documents by waving your hand over them and shouting, “You are now declassified.” Unless your Michael Scott.Means nothing against the principle of unlimited executive privilege. The Democrat principle is: The President has unlimited authority to declassify any document he wants unless he's Trump. The President has unlimited authority to categorize any record he wants as part of his personal records unless he's Trump. The Presidential Records Act has no formal penalties unless it's Trump in which case he blocked from running again.
Do you understand that while president, he can classify or declasify, top secret or otherwise, anything he wants? Given this fact, aren't you making a massive assumption that you don't know whether it is true or not? Yes, yes you are.Yes. If a former POTUS of either party knowingly takes Classified let alone Top Secret documents home with them (or their resort, or both), which is a clear violation, they should be held to account per the statute. And if they will not return them as directed, then the FBI/DOJ should seek a search warrant, and if the warrant gets signed by a judge, they should execute it, and then they should take back the documents. Real rocket science stuff there IVC any more burning questions?
We aren't talking about the Left. We are talking about your King. I know you are embarrassed and you are pulling out all the stops to deflect away from your Savior but nothing you do can take the spotlight off your Orange Menace. Sorry man. I know your life is crashing down around you and suddenly your life has no purpose but keep your chin up. Positive thoughts. Who knows, maybe you can send a nice big donation to Donny and he will feel better. Get out the check book.They are tired of the stupidity and BS and double standards and arrogance of the left.