Because I don’t have to explain anything to you. You are a nobody.
His response fits your narrative. So what's the problem?Typical. Just like EP, always willing to throw in snide comments, but never willing to answer any logical questions.
Tells me all I need to know - as long as little johnny gets to play and pick the sports he wants, who cares what the results are.
You don’t care about Elder ! Your not passionate about Elder ! You may praise a win but you are quick to find all the wrong that’s going on. You act like these kids don’t go to camps, extra practices/ workouts , strength conditioning etc. If you want Elder to be successful, then grab a paddle and start paddling ! Your throwing water in the boat! Your opinions, honest or maybe even correct to a point , don’t matter. Go look at each sport male/ female and see what schools are typically in state tournaments. Elder as a whole is doing good. You would maybe have a valid opinion if the basketball lost every year at sectionals or had below .500 record consistently . Judging off what Moeller has or hasn’t done is silly! You’ve posted about other schools and hoping they have no success at all ! Why do you wish high school kids fail or not successful ?? That is where I will say you have a problem! Wishing bad on others is just flat out wrong ! Especially when it’s 14-19 year old kids and a few younger men that are a bit older.??? I do post in the other forums. I just happen to care more about Elder.
Let me say very plainly, I don’t have all the answers, I can’t do a better job than the coaches. I’m just giving you an honest opinion of what I see and possible solutions to issues. Despite my difference with the Admin, I don’t hate anyone, I don’t want anyone fired. I just want Elder to be as successful as possible.
Also, as an outsider, I would think Elder would be interested into why outsiders aren't drawn to their school. I'm giving you the playbook as to how outsiders view certain sports practices and lack of diversity as a means of appeasing an established core.
If they don't care, that's fine. It's their right to run their school they way they see fit. But don't play this holier than thou, purity act while you're doing it. It's pretty clear why they're doing things certain ways.
We’ve already discussed talent issues and transition of football as a priority among the best athletes in the school’s recruiting base.People keep telling me all of these things I write are wrong, yet are unwilling to tell me why results are relatively average each year. If all the basketball players are doing this, how are they not getting better? This is usually where Mad Dog disappears.
It seems to me that most people are OK with the basketball program being average as long as their kid gets to play. That seems to be another theme no one is willing to admit.
Also, as an outsider, I would think Elder would be interested into why outsiders aren't drawn to their school. I'm giving you the playbook as to how outsiders view certain sports practices and lack of diversity as a means of appeasing an established core.
If they don't care, that's fine. It's their right to run their school they way they see fit. But don't play this holier than thou, purity act while you're doing it. It's pretty clear why they're doing things certain ways.
I’ve literally addressed all your questions. The snide comments are a bonus. Also, it’s not like you don’t make them to me and others (in fact, you outright mock the school, passive aggressively label everyone racist, and call names quite often), so you can’t be holier than thou. Lol.Typical. Just like EP, always willing to throw in snide comments, but never willing to answer any logical questions.
Tells me all I need to know - as long as little johnny gets to play and pick the sports he wants, who cares what the results are.
Typical. Just like EP, always willing to throw in snide comments, but never willing to answer any logical questions.
Tells me all I need to know - as long as little johnny gets to play and pick the sports he wants, who cares what the results are.
Then why doesn't the team get better year over year?
It’s hilarious Trey thinks everyone’s motive here is so their “little Johnny” can play on the team. Lol.
I played for joe back in the day as well. My kids don’t even attend Elder. And I can assure everyone, Joe would never let anyone pick his team for him, nor would he ever hold spots for legacy kids. It’s a completely idiotic accusation.I played for Elder, my dad, brothers, uncles everyone did. But not one coach has asked me which teams they should save a spot for my kids. I feel so disrespected! According to Trey, I should be picking the teams! This is krap! No one has included me on the big conspiracy to cut Treys kid so mine can start at every sport!
Yeah, the talent pool is the real differentiator. Everyone with a brain knows this. Just like the Reds would have sucked with 9 Ryan Freels on the team, trying hard is great and makes everyone feel good but if you don’t have talent you won’t consistently win.What if every school does these things? Someone still has to lose every game that is played. You do realize some schools work hard and still lose sometimes right?
Do you think there are some colleges that don’t work hard? Every college for the most part does the same thing in the off-season. Yet some still have to lose when the season rolls around.
you didn’t ask a logical question. You said there’s no offseason program when there is. You spread fake news. 10 of the 12 kids on the team played aau last year. They can shoot before school or after school. Open gyms after school or evenings. Two strength coaches with sport specific workouts. 10 coaching days allowed in June. In July aau comes back or fall sports start. Pretty much the same thing that all the schools do. Any kid in the school can do these things. 4 kids who didn’t make a team last year made it this year between JV and varsity. That’s a lot. Any other fake news do you want me to shoot down?
Only one real difference between us and other schools is we support multi sport athletes and the other schools want specialization.
Yeah, the talent pool is the real differentiator. Everyone with a brain knows this. Just like the Reds would have sucked with 9 Ryan Freels on the team, trying hard is great and makes everyone feel good but if you don’t have talent you won’t consistently win.
I played for Elder, my dad, brothers, uncles everyone did.
I played for joe back in the day as well. My kids don’t even attend Elder.
You are a former nobody to the school , so why do you expect better ?Again, then why aren't they getting better year over year if all of this is happening? That's not a legitimate question to ask? And if your response is "because most everyone is playing and getting ready for football", then why should that be the peak of the basketball program? As a former player, wouldn't you expect better?
Second biggest shocker of the day.
Answer the question , what high school and what college ? Why are you not answering the question??I'm not originally from Cincinnati. I'm from up north.
And yes, I went to college.
That’s bs. I mean the record reflects the talent. It really is the biggest differentiator. Joe as coach will always make them respectable, but he can’t overcome the lack of talent.The only school that is pulling in significantly better talent is Moeller. This narrative that all of these great athletes are keeping Elder basketball down is complete bullsh*t. The schools that have been ahead of them over the past 10-15 years have kids just like Elder does. You want to talk about a narrative, this is biggest one perpetuated by the multi-sport families to ensure their proper pick of the litter.
So defensive when I’m curious to your back round in high school, which for what ever reason you will not say where ? Locally you went to college but won’t say ? Do you not support your high school or college ?High school Northern Ohio. College locally. Been in Cincy for roughly 20 years, give or take. This has been known for years.
I don't have to answer your questions.
Lack of talent.Again, then why aren't they getting better year over year if all of this is happening? That's not a legitimate question to ask? And if your response is "because most everyone is playing and getting ready for football", then why should that be the peak of the basketball program? As a former player, wouldn't you expect better?
3 different posters literally just explained it to you. You really are stupid.Again, then why aren't they getting better year over year if all of this is happening? That's not a legitimate question to ask? And if your response is "because most everyone is playing and getting ready for football", then why should that be the peak of the basketball program? As a former player, wouldn't you expect better?
That’s bs. I mean the record reflects the talent. It really is the biggest differentiator. Joe as coach will always make them respectable, but he can’t overcome the lack of talent.
Elder’s talent is young and inexperienced right now. It’s not a surprise where they are.We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I think it's BS that people say all of these other teams have so much more talent than Elder. I don't see it. Moeller absolutely does, and the prep schools they played absolutely do, but every other school is just like Elder is terms of what they have to work with.
So defensive when I’m curious to your back round in high school, which for what ever reason you will not say where ? Locally you went to college but won’t say ? Do you not support your high school or college ?