Conference is currently accepting new membership applications. Who would be a good fit?
http://www.ohsaa.org/Portals/0/SchoolResources/Conferences/ChagrinValleyConferenceOpenings.pdf
Warrensville Hts, Bedford, Ashtabula Lakeside, and Ashtabula Edgewood are east side schools I can think of that may be looking for a new league. I could see Brooklyn, Lutheran West, Fairview Park, Rocky River and Bay apply from the west side. I’m not sure any of these schools could be called a great fit for the CVC depending on all the sports they offer or geographic location. But, maybe good.
Berkshire and Cardinal would be a good fit in the PTC with the County Conference
Is it safe to assume that the talks of schools leaving the Valley division are these two schools?
The PTC next meeting this will be brought up this monthAlmost impossible to speculate until information is released about the schools leaving. Interesting there has not been an announcement of schools leaving, but the CVC has invited applications in December. Maybe the schools rumored to be leaving are giving the CVC an opportunity to fix their concerns before they bolt?
Berkshire and Cardinal would be a good fit in the PTC with the County Conference
Isn't the PTC at 15 teams? Both would make sense there but would it be just be one or is there a school leaving the PTC?
Yes, but there's room for 2 in the PTC since Lake Center Christian doesn't field a football team. Also, there may have been rumors about Valley Christian already wanting out of the PTC, or did I dream those up? :shrug:
Forgot about no football at Lake Center. Wasn't that supposed to eventually happen? 6 team league would be tough.
Back to the CVC, very interesting that they are taking applications before anyone has at least announced they are leaving. I would think schools would want to know which schools they would be joining ultimately. I am sure they will get some solid interest.
There was talk of Lake Center adding football as a way to gain admission into the PTC, but I don't see it happening. If they were going to do it, I would think they would've already started offering it at the junior high level. There's no evidence of that, nor do I think that they have the numbers to do it. Even their JH soccer team is coed.
If I'm the PTC and can get Berkshire and Cardinal, that gets me up to 8 teams in the County Division (7 that play football). Additionally, I'd try to get Medina Buckeye into the Metro Division and then drop Field down to the County. That would keep the Metro at 8 and make it a perennially stronger division, and that would bring the County up to 8 and put Field in with more of their old PCL rivals. The only downside would be having 9 teams in the County for all sports except football. Some ADs may be OK with that since it makes their job of scheduling contests that much easier, but others may not wish to be locked into that many league games.
We'll see what happens, but it appears that this is a golden opportunity for the PTC to stabilize both divisions for the near future.
Warrensville Hts, Bedford, Ashtabula Lakeside, and Ashtabula Edgewood are east side schools I can think of that may be looking for a new league. I could see Brooklyn, Lutheran West, Fairview Park, Rocky River and Bay apply from the west side. I’m not sure any of these schools could be called a great fit for the CVC depending on all the sports they offer or geographic location. But, maybe good.
There was talk of Lake Center adding football as a way to gain admission into the PTC, but I don't see it happening. If they were going to do it, I would think they would've already started offering it at the junior high level. There's no evidence of that, nor do I think that they have the numbers to do it. Even their JH soccer team is coed.
If I'm the PTC and can get Berkshire and Cardinal, that gets me up to 8 teams in the County Division (7 that play football). Additionally, I'd try to get Medina Buckeye into the Metro Division and then drop Field down to the County. That would keep the Metro at 8 and make it a perennially stronger division, and that would bring the County up to 8 and put Field in with more of their old PCL rivals. The only downside would be having 9 teams in the County for all sports except football. Some ADs may be OK with that since it makes their job of scheduling contests that much easier, but others may not wish to be locked into that many league games.
We'll see what happens, but it appears that this is a golden opportunity for the PTC to stabilize both divisions for the near future.
Chardon, Kenston, and Madison are fine in the Reserve. I think those three would dominate the likes of CFalls, WestG, Orange, and Perry.The best thing for the CVC is to get rid of the two divisions and make it an 8 team conference as it originally was years ago. It would be great to see the CVC consist of Chagrin Falls, Chardon, Kenston, West Geauga, Orange, Perry, Madison or keep Geneva, and Harvey. These schools will have good crosstown rivals back ( Chagrin Falls & Kenston, Chardon & West Geauga, Perry & Madison etc.) Get rid of the small school division and form their own conference.
Chardon, Kenston, and Madison are fine in the Reserve. I think those three would dominate the likes of CFalls, WestG, Orange, and Perry.
It should be Perry, Cfalls, WestG, Orange, Wickliffe, Kirtland, and Geneva.
Something like that. Kirtland is the smallest school but athletics are great. Geneva is the biggest but athletics need work.
They play some PTC schools that will bring fans. Four of the schools are are 35 minute or less drive from these 2 schools. Mogadore will bring fans along with GvilleKind of a mixed bag in terms of surprise about Cardinal and Berkshire leaving the CVC, if it's them. I'm not sure how much gain in terms of travel distances being closer for them going to the PTC. That said, not having to play Kirtland and Cuyahoga Hts every year in football is probably the driver of this.
In terms of football, I would think it behooves the conference to find two schools that fit into the upper division. Right now the two schools between Beachwood, Wickliffe, and Hawken stuck in the upper division for football are miscast. The problem is schools that best fit the upper division are out of the way geographically. I know there was mutual interest between the conference and Bay/Rocky River a few years ago but that faded because of major travel issues; Fairview is another similar option now.
Lutheran West and Brooklyn are also orphans at the moment. They have similar issues to the table in terms of travel, plus enrollment wise are kind of in the no man's land of Beachwood, Hawken, and Wickliffe.
So instead of getting beat by Cuy. Hts and Kirtland, they will get beat by Rootstown, Garretsville and Mogadore. Doesn't make sense to me.
The PTC next meeting this will be brought up this month