Guillotine
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That must be why Black Americans are refusing the shot at a disproportionate rate.
100,000 cases of coronavirus already in Ohio
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That must be why Black Americans are refusing the shot at a disproportionate rate.
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He stepped in that one didn't he?
SayMyName
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Yes that word is often used in that context but is also used in other less serious ones as well.
Biden Sets New Goal: At Least 70% Of Adults Given 1 Vaccine Dose By July 4
www.npr.org
Biden Sets New Goal: At Least 70% Of Adults Given 1 Vaccine Dose By July 4
As part of the push to get more shots in arms, the White House has told governors it will tweak the allocation system for vaccines by allowing states to donate doses to a federal pool.
www.npr.org
I deal with anti-Covid vaccine people. The Amish are very resistant. There are some philosophical reasons for this, but there have been robocalls directed at them telling them that, among other things, 6-9 months after taking the vaccine, you will just drop over dead. I had this one Amish lady ask me about the vaccines and I told her they appear to be highly safe and effective. She told me I didnt have the right information. Lol.
I also have the other end of the educational pole; people like nurses or other people with advanced degrees. Some of them dont trust the time frame in developing the vaccines, lack of longer term studies, and one nurse who just got married and wants to have children is worried about effects on fertility.
So, you have the under-educated to highly educated and all kinds in between who have something from concern to opposition to being vaccinated.
But, the Left has their narrative.
I think urban vs rural is more impactful than anything. Rural people tend to rely on themselves and their neighbors and distrust government. Urban people tend to be more reliant and trustful of government - as long as it is liberal. We must remember that many prominent Dems, including VP Airhead, said they would not take a vaccine distributed by Trump. I dont care who you are, that's stupid.
I also have the other end of the educational pole; people like nurses or other people with advanced degrees. Some of them dont trust the time frame in developing the vaccines, lack of longer term studies, and one nurse who just got married and wants to have children is worried about effects on fertility.
So, you have the under-educated to highly educated and all kinds in between who have something from concern to opposition to being vaccinated.
But, the Left has their narrative.
I think urban vs rural is more impactful than anything. Rural people tend to rely on themselves and their neighbors and distrust government. Urban people tend to be more reliant and trustful of government - as long as it is liberal. We must remember that many prominent Dems, including VP Airhead, said they would not take a vaccine distributed by Trump. I dont care who you are, that's stupid.
winbypin
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Probably. Lol. Ok. You're like a monkey throwing his own poop. Maybe something will stick.
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You have little grasp of the power of language. Imo
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Source the data please. Surely you understand that principle?
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Taking back our schools is ground zero.
The new "school board" has no legal standing.
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Lol and why is that?
winbypin
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What is this chart supposed to be telling us?
15% of Americans want masking to go on indefinitely; 58% think we'll be required to wear them in publi9c for another 6 months.
www.washingtonexaminer.com
Poll: 25% want mask use until 2023, some ‘indefinitely’
A majority of people expect President Joe Biden and state officials to keep a mask mandate on for at least another year, with many expecting it to last much longer. The latest Rasmussen Reports survey said that 58% of respondents expect that they’ll be required to wear masks in public places for...
www.washingtonexaminer.com
Obedience fatigue is a good way to describe the covid situation.
lawliberty.org
There is no argument for wearing masks (which don’t do any good in any event, the case data show) if you have been vaccinated, except one: the harpies can’t tell by looking whether a person has been vaccinated or not. So if vaccinated people take their masks off, the unvaccinated will swiftly follow, and the harpies won’t know whom to shame. That’s the only rationale.
John Hinderaker calls for Americans to begin disobeying our feckless public health czars. He says “We need people to say, I’m taking this damn mask off. And if a harpy complains, to tell her or him to get stuffed. Seriously. The time has come.” I fully concur. The time for patience and forbearance is over. Let freedom ring.
Obedience Fatigue – Mark Pulliam
Over a year of CDC flip-flops and credibility-straining pronouncements leave a compliant public skeptical. Vaccinated Americans yearn for normalcy.
lawliberty.org
There is no argument for wearing masks (which don’t do any good in any event, the case data show) if you have been vaccinated, except one: the harpies can’t tell by looking whether a person has been vaccinated or not. So if vaccinated people take their masks off, the unvaccinated will swiftly follow, and the harpies won’t know whom to shame. That’s the only rationale.
John Hinderaker calls for Americans to begin disobeying our feckless public health czars. He says “We need people to say, I’m taking this damn mask off. And if a harpy complains, to tell her or him to get stuffed. Seriously. The time has come.” I fully concur. The time for patience and forbearance is over. Let freedom ring.
The real school board adjourned the meeting and did not resign.
Even the very liberal Atlantic sees the danger in stoking a permanent covid crisis:
www.theatlantic.com
Even as scientific knowledge of COVID-19 has increased, some progressives have continued to embrace policies and behaviors that aren’t supported by evidence, such as banning access to playgrounds, closing beaches, and refusing to reopen schools for in-person learning.
“Those who are vaccinated on the left seem to think overcaution now is the way to go, which is making people on the right question the effectiveness of the vaccines,” Gandhi told me. Public figures and policy makers who try to dictate others’ behavior without any scientific justification for doing so erode trust in public health and make people less willing to take useful precautions. The marginal gains of staying shut down might not justify the potential backlash.
The Liberals Who Can’t Quit Lockdown
Progressive communities have been home to some of the fiercest battles over COVID-19 policies, and some liberal policy makers have left scientific evidence behind.
www.theatlantic.com
Even as scientific knowledge of COVID-19 has increased, some progressives have continued to embrace policies and behaviors that aren’t supported by evidence, such as banning access to playgrounds, closing beaches, and refusing to reopen schools for in-person learning.
“Those who are vaccinated on the left seem to think overcaution now is the way to go, which is making people on the right question the effectiveness of the vaccines,” Gandhi told me. Public figures and policy makers who try to dictate others’ behavior without any scientific justification for doing so erode trust in public health and make people less willing to take useful precautions. The marginal gains of staying shut down might not justify the potential backlash.
Serious question to everyone: how can you take the CDC seriously when it issues Summer Camp guidelines like these?
reason.com
Here are just some of the restrictions:
The CDC's Guidance for Summer Camps Is Insane
"Masking kids at camp outdoors is simply virtue signaling."
reason.com
Here are just some of the restrictions:
- Everyone at the camp—including staff and every kid over the age of two—must wear masks at all times, unless they are eating or swimming. They should wear two layers of masks, especially when social distancing is difficult, regardless of "whether activities are indoors or outdoors."
- Campers should be placed in "cohorts," and their interaction with people outside the cohort must be limited.
- There should always be at least three feet between campers of the same cohort, and six feet between campers of different cohorts. Staff should keep six feet away from campers at all times, whether inside or outside. Distance should be maintained while eating, napping, or riding the bus: The CDC suggests seating kids in alternating rows.
- The use of physical objects that might be shared among kids—toys, art supplies, electronics—should be limited wherever possible.
- Camps should not permit close-contact sports and indoor sports, and should require masks regardless.
Then why not just say that you're uncomfortable taking a vaccine that doesn't have long-term studies associated with it? People will make their own risk assessments. As far as wearing a mask to interact with those that are high risk and don't want a vaccine, I didn't suggest I wouldn't. But I'm not sure why you are suggesting it since you believe masks don't work.
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This is a good example of the stolen election. Thanks for providing the data.
Pretty sure they made up the part about "two layers of masks".Serious question to everyone: how can you take the CDC seriously when it issues Summer Camp guidelines like these?
The CDC's Guidance for Summer Camps Is Insane
"Masking kids at camp outdoors is simply virtue signaling."
Here are just some of the restrictions:
Sorry but this is either gross incompetence on display or a naked attempt to exert control over the population. By the time summer camps are kicking off America will have largely reached herd immunity. Both those on the right AND the left should be concerned at the government wanting to extend the covid crisis permanently.
- Everyone at the camp—including staff and every kid over the age of two—must wear masks at all times, unless they are eating or swimming. They should wear two layers of masks, especially when social distancing is difficult, regardless of "whether activities are indoors or outdoors."
- Campers should be placed in "cohorts," and their interaction with people outside the cohort must be limited.
- There should always be at least three feet between campers of the same cohort, and six feet between campers of different cohorts. Staff should keep six feet away from campers at all times, whether inside or outside. Distance should be maintained while eating, napping, or riding the bus: The CDC suggests seating kids in alternating rows.
- The use of physical objects that might be shared among kids—toys, art supplies, electronics—should be limited wherever possible.
- Camps should not permit close-contact sports and indoor sports, and should require masks regardless.
Guidance for Operating Youth and Summer Camps During COVID-19 (cdc.gov)Pretty sure they made up the part about "two layers of masks".
Campers and staff can use well-fitting cloth masks with two or more layers of tightly woven, breathable fabric or disposable masks.
They're clearly referring to one mask, containing two or more layers of tightly woven, breathable fabric OR a disposable mask.
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Write a letter to the CDC about your concerns? I'm simply telling the posters that they lied in the article. ?
So the article didn't make up "two layers of masks." Nobody will mind if you delete your post.
And it's not a "OR a disposable mask". If you have a two layer disposable mask, that is acceptable per the CDC. If not, you should wear two disposable masks.
Look at what you originally posted...
Campers and staff can use well-fitting cloth masks with two or more layers of tightly woven, breathable fabric or disposable masks.
It's clearly stating that they can wear one or the other, yes. No mention of wearing multiple masks at Summer Camps. It's okay to admit you were wrong.