1. Chase HarrisonWho do you think is better than Allar?
2. Brogan Mccaughey
3. Drew Allar
4. Kipp
1. Chase HarrisonWho do you think is better than Allar?
I think the playoff schedule worked to Mentor's disadvantage. Sure, it got them to the final game in the region, but Medina's road through Ed's and Ignatius has them really ready for the final. Mentor really hasn't been challenged since their game with Eds. The travel time for Medina and the home field for Mentor will be an advantage, but I still see Medina winning this game by a TD.
Ok forget all that. I'm really picking Medina by 7 because Brian picked Mentor by 7.
They’ll point to the state title rings on their fingers in the process.Being battle tested is overrated. Ask Pickerington Central and Hilliard Davidson. Actually, don’t ask them. They’ll nauseate you with how great teams like Groveport Madison and Olentangy United Americas Team are.
They’ll point to the state title rings on their fingers in the process.
Yep, making Mentor the third best team they all played on those paths.Exactly my point. When you only have to beat one or two actual teams all year, those rings come a lot easier.
Yep, making Mentor is the third best team they all played on those paths.
You’re missing a comma.Practice English bud.
You’re missing a comma.
Good luck to both teams. It would be neat to see Medina get revenge on Mentor en route to a possible final four appearance.
Yeah losing by 1 to Davidson in double OT and one score to PC last year definitely makes Mentor the third best team they faced in those years.Yep, making Mentor the third best team they all played on those paths.
I don't know that Medina "should win". To me it's a tossup. I think Mentor is better than Medina if both teams play at their top level. The problem is Medina is playing their best and we aren't. Mentor has to raise their level of play to winPractice English bud.
Anyway, to get this back on track:
Mentor 34
Medina 31
Really don’t know what to expect. Should be a good amount of scoring. It seems like Medina should win, but my guess is Mentor wins and delays the inevitable 2+ score elimination in a final 4 game.
Being battle tested is overrated. Ask Pickerington Central and Hilliard Davidson. Actually, don’t ask them. They’ll nauseate you with how great teams like Groveport Madison and Olentangy United Americas Team are.
You want the path of least resistance.
I didn’t see the Ignatius game, but I thought Medina made a huge mistake against Ed’s when they didn’t go for it on 4th and 1 from around their 30 late in the game. I thought they needed another score to win. I didn’t think they would keep Ed’s out of the end zone, and they really didn’t...Ed’s blew it.
That left me questioning if the coach will let them go get the win rather than hang on for dear life. Maybe it won’t come into play, but that decision has stuck in my mind.
Yeah losing by 1 to Davidson in double OT and one score to PC last year definitely makes Mentor the third best team they faced in those years.
You couldn't have made that post with a straight face. Mentor was definitely right there with those teams in 2006 and 2019.
He's right that region 3 has the easiest path to the final 4 compared to regions 1 and 4. But that lack of depth in region doesn't matter if the best team still resides at the top of region 3
Because he talked about all cases so he was clearly wrong two out of 3. He said " all those paths "Why didn't you mention the other state final to PC???
The argument wasnt that those 3 teams werent the best although I still think Mentor was better in 06 than HD and were right with PC last year (QB got hurt / refs gave them a bs interception etc) but it's a one game scenarioI have no dog in the fight, but it seemed PC and HC had the right amount of athleticism/physicality/toughness to get through the rigors of a 5 week playoff arriving on top no matter the Region. Mentor struck me as somewhat finese.
He's an experienced and well rounded coach so I'm not surprised. I watched that sequence and was happy to see them be aggressive and go for the winThe Medina coach must have learned from the Ed's game. In the Ignatius game, Medina had 4th and 1 from their own 29 late in the game. Ignatius had moved the ball well offensively in the 2nd half and had closed the score to 31-26. Coach Laird went for the first down deep in their own territory and the Bees got it. They then worked off most of the clock and left Ignatius with little time and deep in their own side of the field. Game over.
Since 2000, it has been incredibly rare that one of Mentor's state contending teams has faced a QB better than what they have. The playoff losses with Thom Abbott or Bart Tanski (02, 03, 06, and 07) were not due to superior QB play on the opposite sideline. Neither were the three year offensively dominant stretch with Trubisky/Krizancic at QB. The rest of the rosters aside, I'm not sure that most coaches would have taken the sophomore version of Pickerington Central's Crenshaw over the savvy senior Tatarunas in 2017. But I could listen to it. In 2018, the sophomore Kipp was clearly not at the level of St Eds' Dzurro. Crenshaw was better than Kipp last year, but not by a lot IMO.
I have long accepted that Allar is the better recruit than Kipp. Back in July/August, I said that if I were drafting a high school QB for 2020, Kipp would be ahead of Allar. But at this point, it is hard to make the argument for Kipp being the better player. I'm not used to going into a Mentor game feeling like the other team has superior QB play. That has always been Mentor's biggest advantage over other teams.
Kipp will need a big rushing night on Friday to provide an equalizer to Medina's passing attack. Slow the game down. Getting both him and Coughlin over 100 yards is a great formula to winning the game. If it becomes a match of who can pass the most to win the game - that is a big advantage to Allar. Not because he is (slightly) ahead of Kipp right now. But mostly because Hensley is heads and shoulders better than any receiver on Mentor's roster.
How can that be determined ahead of time ? Liberty is closer to both of these schools and pc would be closer to cincy if those teams wonSo, confirmed, winner plays region 3 winner
How can that be determined ahead of time ? Liberty is closer to both of these schools and pc would be closer to cincy if those teams won
We played Liberty in a final 4 before but now the ohsaa rebrackets before the matchups are even determined ? This is bogus
Cincy schools must have some power if this is predetermined cuz that's bs.
Yep now I see. Wasnt meant towards you. The ohsaa rarely makes sense. Someone in cincy clearly has some pull to choose their path. We played liberty in a final 4 before so if they win there is zero reason for thisNo idea but ohsaa put it out apparently per media
Yep now I see. Wasnt meant towards you. The ohsaa rarely makes sense. Someone in cincy clearly has some pull to choose their path. We played liberty in a final 4 before so if they win there is zero reason for this
Springfield you can argue but even then it's minutes difference.
Yep I think we played liberty recently too. Makes no sense at all unless they are trying to orchestrate a Pick Central X title game. Hoping winner of this fame wins it all. Just read the release
Yep I think we played liberty recently too. Makes no sense at all unless they are trying to orchestrate a Pick Central X title game. Hoping winner of this fame wins it all. Just read the release
Going by that rationale on miles, Mentor is only 30 miles longer trip to Springfield vs Pick Central.I'm like 99.99 percent sure the decision to lock them in this early is to potentially create a Pickerington Central/St. Xavier final, but at the same time, there actually is some rationale behind it.
1. Medina/Mentor was guaranteed to play a Columbus school anyway ... whether it is Pickerington Central/Westerville Central or Olentangy Liberty.
2. If Springfield beats Olentangy Liberty, it was always going to play the R4 winner.
3. Even if Olentangy Liberty wins, does it really make a huge difference where the Columbus schools are exactly located? In that case, it was going to be NEO/Central Ohio vs. SWO/Central Ohio. Yeah, Pickerington to Cincinnati may be a bit closer; and Liberty to NEO also may be a bit closer. But we are talking 25 to 30 miles, so not some outrageous amount. Still, this is the case where it probably shouldn't have been locked in.
4. But, if Westerville Central beats Pickerington Central, this is especially moot. If Springfield beats Liberty, they still play R4. Even if Liberty beats Springfield (and if Westerville Central also wins), those two schools are only about 10 or so miles apart. Does it really matter at that point??
So, in three of the four scenarios, it makes sense. ... and even the other one, it's not going to create some huge additional type commute to what was already would have been the case.