TheDuq
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Good read, everyone for the most part seems to agree with these points:
News-Herald: OHSAA Needs To Delay Start Of Season
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McMurphy
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Can't judge if it is a good read, because I am not a subscriber to it. Lol
August 1 is the OFFICIAL start date of Fall sports... BUT TEAMS HAVE BEEN PRACTICING ALL SUMMER... Fall sports teams are in their 7th+ week of practice since the Governor gave the go-ahead to start up at the end of May.
We keep referring to this August 1 date as if something is going to be drastically different practice-wise on that date than the days leading up to it.
Kids have been practicing all summer... lifting... training with their teammates and coaches... nobody is living in a little bubble just waiting for August 1st to hit.
We keep referring to this August 1 date as if something is going to be drastically different practice-wise on that date than the days leading up to it.
Kids have been practicing all summer... lifting... training with their teammates and coaches... nobody is living in a little bubble just waiting for August 1st to hit.
CMH FB
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People start and are supposed to be allowed to participate against other schools on August 1st...that’s why it’s important, guy.
CMH FB
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It by no means says we can’t have a season or anything like that, but discusses the lack of guidance which all parties can agree on here.
CometCountry
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Statement from NFL Labor Union head De Smith a few minutes ago--players will begin practice if conditions are safe:
De Smith: "The league has made the decision that they want to start training camp on time. The role of the union is to hold them accountable on how to make sure it's safe to open camp now." "The union's proposed ramp-up period (21 days strength and conditioning, 10 days of non-padded practices, then 14 days of contact acclimation). Says it grew out of discussions with medical experts."
You can bet Teachers Associations across Ohio (and country) have been working on this same aspect of assuring "safe working conditions for staff" which is in every bargained contract--as a former Association President this would be critical to getting back to on-campus learning in August!!
De Smith: "The league has made the decision that they want to start training camp on time. The role of the union is to hold them accountable on how to make sure it's safe to open camp now." "The union's proposed ramp-up period (21 days strength and conditioning, 10 days of non-padded practices, then 14 days of contact acclimation). Says it grew out of discussions with medical experts."
You can bet Teachers Associations across Ohio (and country) have been working on this same aspect of assuring "safe working conditions for staff" which is in every bargained contract--as a former Association President this would be critical to getting back to on-campus learning in August!!
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What changes August 1st is any team that gets shut down for 14 days will have to cancel their week one game. If you dont understand that then you have never coached. It would be impossible for any team to miss 12 two a-days and play their week one opponent. So these shut downs (Aurora today) we have been hearing about now have serious ramifications for week one.
CometCountry
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Bingo FB2019!!
Jaws31
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No one is going to be "practicing" against other schools in Aug 1. I got news for you too, no one is just starting on Aug 1 teams have been going strong for weeks now. Literally the only thing different is they don't have shoulder pads on. Contact isn't allowed the first days of camp and is limited anyway anymore.
So you believe it is fair to have to play an opponent week one that had 12 more practices than you have? It is world ending for coaches. What if your team gets shut down during the season and you miss 2 games. Do you just pick up and practice a few days and play a game after sitting for the last two weeks? County health departments have been consistent that anyone on your team tests positive the team gets shut down. Any kid in contact with a covid case is quarantined. Under these restrictions you will see multiple cancellations around the state each week. It will be a logistical nightmare.
The teams that have been shut down have not been going strong. There have been a lot of them. Two just in my small area of the state. Those shutdowns become game cancellations starting August 1st.
CometCountry
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Teams have not been going "strong" (whatever that means) in SW Ohio other than normal conditioning and staying 6 feet apart for the most part--hell a Winton Woods player got COVID just in conditioning and has no clue how he got it. As FB2019 says "it's a whole new scenario after August 1st".
www.cincinnati.com
Top linebacker recruit Andrew Booker of Winton Woods comes back from COVID-19
One of the area's top prep football players tested positive for COVID-19 and is now back in the fold for Winton Woods
www.cincinnati.com
Teams play teams vastly inferior to them in talent level, skillset, coaching,training, every year. So yeah, i dont really care if two teams playing have a training mismatch. If coaches don't want to do that and would prefer to cancel the game, that's ok too. We all know games will get cancelled this year, if they happen at all.
Falcon1998
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Read every released county department health letter about a positive case. They are all following the same guidelines.
sheldoncooper
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We r all just prolonging the inevitable ... No Fall Sports unfortunately !!
You are assuming a lot of agreement on a topic that has seen precious little of that thus far.
TheDuq
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Let's be real. Kids will end up not going back the entire semester. We are talking about letting kids go to school within a month and today we hit our highest number of cases since this thing started, hospitalizations, deaths, up as well.
Who are we kidding? That doesn't even make sense. The whole idea right now is to flatten the curve, there is absolutely no way kids going to school is allow things to get better. It sucks, because kids need to go to school, however, we need a complete shutdown to finally move on with our everyday life.
"This isn't going away, we need to live with it". Every other industrialized country sorted it out but us. So it can be done.
TheDuq
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You think the OHSAA has done a good job? Well then I don't know what to tell you.
Not my point, sir. I just found the assumption of unanimous agreement amusing.
districts are starting to release their "return to school" plans. When there's a positive case, the school isn't shutting down... classrooms aren't shutting down... lunch rooms aren't shutting down... the individual who tests positive is quarantined for at least 14 days, yes.
i've yet to see something stating that an ENTIRE TEAM is "shut down for 14 days" if there is a positive case of COVID.
i've yet to see something stating that an ENTIRE TEAM is "shut down for 14 days" if there is a positive case of COVID.
moonshadow
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I am curious about the 14 days myself. Is this coning from the health department? School AD to appease parents. It seemed most people believed once it turned 8/1 it would be a player only quarantine.
Per Ohio Department of Education guidelines: "Personnel and students with known exposure to someone with diagnosed or presumed COVID-19 must self-quarantine at home for 14 days."
fridayfootball
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I would be willing to bet Football is the highest level of exposure
bulldog1974
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This season needs to be played, even if it is only league games or 7 games if independent.
TheDuq
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What would cutting it down three weeks or just league games have anything to do with it?
Has there really been a 'second wave' or are we simply experiencing - in Ohio and many other states - the effects of the virus in geographical areas that were previously spared?
And it seems like the harder hit an area is, the quicker its population moves past the virus (e.g., NYC), so implementing extensive tough restrictions might not only cause a lot of pain and suffering in other areas of life (like unemployment), but also merely forestall the inevitable of the virus's direct impact - and relatively briefly.
I want to see the schools open. We're talking about allowing close-to-regular K-12 school operation and allowing school sports, not reverting to lax before-the-virus practices at all Ohio nursing homes.
And it seems like the harder hit an area is, the quicker its population moves past the virus (e.g., NYC), so implementing extensive tough restrictions might not only cause a lot of pain and suffering in other areas of life (like unemployment), but also merely forestall the inevitable of the virus's direct impact - and relatively briefly.
I want to see the schools open. We're talking about allowing close-to-regular K-12 school operation and allowing school sports, not reverting to lax before-the-virus practices at all Ohio nursing homes.
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