Blue Jay Fan
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So there is no link. OK.
Financial Issues Facing Schools Due To Pandemic, Loss Of Income From Football
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I told you I got my stuff from the CDC. I'm sure it's on google.
Stow78alum
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That can not be accurate as we have not even had a full year of "typical covid". But Covid's 120k deaths in the US appears to be ahead of the flu's rate
It is but there are complicating factors that cause people to question these numbers:
The counting of covid deaths has been very different from how they count flu deaths. It seems like the counting for covid deaths is designed to maximize the number. The 124,000 are those who died with covid not necessarily because of covid. I've read where some epidemiologists believe that this counting inflates covid deaths by 25% to 50% versus how they count flu deaths.
If this is true, and it remains to be confirmed, then the current death total of 124,000 was matched by the 2017/18 flu outbreak that saw as many as 95,000 people die (95% confidence upper limit of CDC estimated deaths). Going back to the Hong Kong flu of 1968/69 the CDC estimated that up to 100,000 Americans died. Adjusting for population differences (200million in 1968 versus 330 million today) up to 165,000 Americans would have died today. And this is without adding in any corrections for differences in counting methodologies.
Ditto for the 1957/58 Asian Flu which killed more people (when corrected for population) then the covid. The CDC estimated this flu killed between 70,000 - 116,000 Americans. After correcting for population differences the total today would be 126,000 - 208,000 dead. This is again without correcting for any counting methodology differences.
Bottom line is that covid is a serious viral outbreak but since WW2 we've seen flu outbreaks as bad or even worse.
McMurphy
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May I ask did we have all these shutdowns for all these other serious viruses back then? I don't think we did
JUSTGOPLAY
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I'll take the Hong Kong flu in 68-69......Not only did we not shutdown, it was not even mentioned. I was a kid, but I remember Woodstock was a big deal, Neal Armstrong walked on the moon, the Mets won the world series, the Jets won the Super Bowl, we went to Virginia Beach for summer vacation. We never missed a day of school, baseball, or pee wee football. The news guys never mentioned it, parents never mentioned it, life went on as it always did. Hell, we never even knew 100K+ people died back in 68-69 til this Coroni-Coroni, end of the world nonsense, showed up this year. Our reaction to what has amounted to a slightly above average seasonal flu, has been ridiculous.
McMurphy
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All those things you mentioned bring back great memories. Such a great era. Even look at the viruses we have had in the new millennium, we have never went over the edge like we are for this Covid. SARS, Ebola, Swine flu, were all similar.
A major concern should be what will those thousands of teenagers be doing on Friday and Saturday nights if they do not have a game or concert to perform in or practice for.
McMurphy
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Well since it is not a school activity, I guess the school, and school board are off the hook, with litigations and lawsuits. Sounds that is what they are concerned with more
As a parent I would rather worry about my teenage kid getting a flu virus than his or her whereabouts during all of their free time on the weekends.
Absolutely! And we all know what the knuckleheads will be doing: Gathering in groups, screwing around, cruising in their cars and getting in trouble. They will almost certainly be at greater risk in this environment then participating and attending Friday night football games.
What has frustrated me the most is how so many in power refuse to factor in the massive collateral damage of the shut down. When deciding what to do for the upcoming school year all the parameters must be factored into the decision. There must be an honest estimate as to the kind & extent of any damage resulting from not having extracurricular activities or not fully reopening the schools.
If after an honest assessment of all the factors involved it still makes sense to close down the extracurricular activities then close them down. But at least make the assessment HONESTLY. Not just take the CYA path of least resistance.