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Driver >>> Welker
:laugh: One of the dumbest things I've ever heard on Yappi.
Driver >>> Welker
I think ultimately my vote would go to Peyton Manning. Wins 10+ games for like 7 straight years, then his team completely falls apart without him.
OVC, I don't know how you could say the Patriots would be a wildcard contender without Brady. Maybe if they still had Cassell.
I'm going to throw this out there....I honestly think Peyton Manning deserves to be MVP. I've never seen 1 player be so valuable to a team. Tom Brady is as valuable, if he's out NE has the 1st pick in the following draft just like Indy.
It's a team game, not a one player team. If one player causes a complete collapse of a team when you team is stocked with some all-pro players on the roster such as Indy has, then it falls on the coach. Coach Bill in New England would not have a complete collapse like Indy has had this season.
I'm going to throw this out there....I honestly think Peyton Manning deserves to be MVP. I've never seen 1 player be so valuable to a team. Tom Brady is as valuable, if he's out NE has the 1st pick in the following draft just like Indy.
The MVP is awarded on performance, not speculation. Manning didn't play, so we have no earthly idea of what kind of performance he would have had.
That only proves how valuable Peyton is though.
OVC, I don't know how you could say the Patriots would be a wildcard contender without Brady. Maybe if they still had Cassell.
You can't "prove" an opinion.:shrug:I want someone to prove that Manning WOULD have had a year that warrants consideration. I want proof that the Colts WOULD have won over 10games, captured the division and positioned themselves for a SB run. I want proof that Manning would have posted MVP numbers.
I want someone to prove that Manning WOULD have had a year that warrants consideration. I want proof that the Colts WOULD have won over 10games, captured the division and positioned themselves for a SB run. I want proof that Manning would have posted MVP numbers.
That's my point. It's speculation. You can't give a guy an award because you "thought" he would do something.You can't "prove" an opinion.:shrug:
I can picture ol' longneck himself going up to Rodgers and Brees in 2013 and going .. "dude, where's MY trophy?" :laugh:He did it for a bazillion straight years. If he does it again next year, then you have to retroactively give Peyton the 2011 MVP award. If they suck again next year with him, then you have a case against him.
My point is you and I both can use whatever criteria we wish to come to any conclusion. Nobody here actually thinks Manning will get or even deserves the award. But everyone at least once this year while watching the Colts slide so far so fast without their star, thought just how "valuable" he really truly has been. So why does anyone else care if people think Peyton deserves consideration? Good news is despite the whining, none of us are wrong. BTW how much weight does the NFL give our Yappi poll?:shrug:That's my point. It's speculation. You can't give a guy an award because you "thought" he would do something.
I don't disagree that his being hurt was a huge problem for the Colts.My point is you and I both can use whatever criteria we wish to come to any conclusion. Nobody here actually thinks Manning will get or even deserves the award. But everyone at least once this year while watching the Colts slide so far so fast without their star, thought just how "valuable" he really truly has been. So why does anyone else care if people think Peyton deserves consideration? Good news is despite the whining, none of us are wrong. BTW how much weight does the NFL give our Yappi poll?:shrug:
But he is the most valuable to his team out of anyone.