What is the most disappointing season that your team has ever had? Early playoff exit? Disappointing W/L results?

St Ed’s , the older guys will say loosing to Moe and Fairfield in the title games but that’s before my time.

05 game vs Massillon at the rubber bowl , I remember my dad calling my mom telling her we had the game wrapped up , Massillon converts a 3 and 30 and wins in the fourth Ed’s fans shocked.

Then the following year in 06 vs Warren Harding at Browns stadium, eagles were loaded played down to their competition and just couldn’t score. McDaniels lead raiders were always tough as hell.

Both those teams could have won state titles it just wasn’t meant to be. But it got gibbons fired and we went into a 3 year dark ages before becoming the powerhouse every eagle alumni knew we could be.
 
I'd say the 2016 Licking Heights team. They were in position to beat New Albany and got tripped up by Heath, but they demolished all of their division opponents, outscoring Granville and Licking Valley 87-13 in back to back weeks. Then, they go get knocked out by Franklin Heights. Finished 8-3.
 
edsfootball10 said:
St Ed’s , the older guys will say loosing to Moe and Fairfield in the title games but that’s before my time.

05 game vs Massillon at the rubber bowl , I remember my dad calling my mom telling her we had the game wrapped up , Massillon converts a 3 and 30 and wins in the fourth Ed’s fans shocked.

Then the following year in 06 vs Warren Harding at Browns stadium, eagles were loaded played down to their competition and just couldn’t score. McDaniels lead raiders were always tough as hell.

Both those teams could have won state titles it just wasn’t meant to be. But it got gibbons fired and we went into a 3 year dark ages before becoming the powerhouse every eagle alumni knew we could be.
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I can see that 05 game being a disappointment for Ed's fans. For Tiger fans it prolly ranks as one of best games for alot of fans. I definitely thought you guys had that game won. 3rd and 30 and Massillon threw a short pass about 10 yards down field ,boy was I pissed then I seen Gamble make a couple moves and find lane to run for the first down.
 
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Year was 2014. Centerville the #1 seed with 10-0 record loses to Lakota West the #16 seed, a decent team with a 5-5 record. But still very disappointing end to the season for the Elks.
 
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Yes. Unfortunately, the strength of that 2008 team was the great air attack, but the weather definitely played to Big Walnut’s strength, their defense, that snowy night in Ashland.

The 2010 Sandusky loss was extremely disappointing, but it propelled that group to the state championship game the next season, so it at least served a purpose.
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2008 was disappointing for us too and Avon was involved. I feel like we played you guys as tough or tougher than anyone round 1. Quite possibly even outplayed you, if not it was pretty damn even. I remember us moving the ball well between the 20s but could never punch one in.

You guys scored on the first drive and 7-0 was the final. Only disappointing cause what if we punch one or 2 in?

Had a disappointing end zone interception to lose to Avon Lake in 2001 as well! Y'all always got the better of us (besides Midview), but Lorain County sure as hell knows who we are at least!
 
TigerBeast78 said:
I can see that 05 game being a disappointment for Ed's fans. For Tiger fans it prolly ranks as one of best games for alot of fans. I definitely thought you guys had that game won. 3rd and 30 and Massillon threw a short pass about 10 yards down field ,boy was I pissed then I seen Gamble make a couple moves and find lane to run for the first down.
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Nate Oliver our all state safety was also our starting running back going both ways, our all state rb frank was out and our qb had the flu 🤧.

No doubt in my mind that eagles team beats st x. It just wasn’t meant to be!
 
edsfootball10 said:
Nate Oliver our all state safety was also our starting running back going both ways, our all state rb frank was out and our qb had the flu 🤧.

No doubt in my mind that eagles team beats st x. It just wasn’t meant to be!
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Who had a papercut ? I also heard someone scraped their knee that morning.
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dhsdog06 said:
2008 was disappointing for us too and Avon was involved. I feel like we played you guys as tough or tougher than anyone round 1. Quite possibly even outplayed you, if not it was pretty damn even. I remember us moving the ball well between the 20s but could never punch one in.

You guys scored on the first drive and 7-0 was the final. Only disappointing cause what if we punch one or 2 in?

Had a disappointing end zone interception to lose to Avon Lake in 2001 as well! Y'all always got the better of us (besides Midview), but Lorain County sure as hell knows who we are at least!
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Yes, that 2008 game turned into an unexpected defensive struggle after that first drive. Defiance was very tough on D and physical on offense. I recall our AD said he had a couple great conversations with Coach Buti during the week leading up to the game and thought he was a really good dude.
 
edsfootball10 said:
Nate Oliver our all state safety was also our starting running back going both ways, our all state rb frank was out and our qb had the flu 🤧.

No doubt in my mind that eagles team beats st x. It just wasn’t meant to be!
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Frankie Edmonds did play he had 4 carries for 6 yards he must of got hurt during the game. I didn't know the QB was sick though. We had a two way guy as well ,the kid that caught the 3rd and 30 pass Gamble was our all state RB and our DB also. I definitely think you COULD of beat St X but not sure it's a guarantee ,that X team was #1 in the State and nationally ranked most of that year.
 
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TigerBeast78 said:
I can see that 05 game being a disappointment for Ed's fans. For Tiger fans it prolly ranks as one of best games for alot of fans. I definitely thought you guys had that game won. 3rd and 30 and Massillon threw a short pass about 10 yards down field ,boy was I pissed then I seen Gamble make a couple moves and find lane to run for the first down.
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Nate Oliver our all state safety was also our starting running back going both ways, our all state rb frank was out and our qb had the flu 🤧.

No doubt in my mind that eagles team beats st in
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Frankie Edmonds did play he had 4 carries for 6 yards he must of got hurt during the game. I didn't know the QB was sick though. We had a two way guy as well ,the kid that caught the 3rd and 30 pass Gamble was our all state RB and our DB also. I definitely think you COULD of beat St X but not sure it's a guarantee ,that X team was #1 in the State and nationally ranked most of that year.
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gamble was an absolute stud! Wish X would continue the series with us
 
edsfootball10 said:
Nate Oliver our all state safety was also our starting running back going both ways, our all state rb frank was out and our qb had the flu 🤧.

No doubt in my mind that eagles team beats st in

gamble was an absolute stud! Wish X would continue the series with us
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I think recently you guys would dominate St X but still would be a good series for sure
 
footballsalads43 said:
While I do agree that Ed’s would be the favorites recently, I think St X would give them a hell of a time night in and night out. Would be an awesome series!
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Yes they might give them a good battle I just said that because St Ed's just had back to back to back championships and in that span St X was 5-7 ,7-5, and 7-5 not exactly great X teams and nothing like their mid to late 2000 teams that were ranked nationally and one year in that time I think they were #1 in the Nation. Either way great series but that might be the reason they didn't want to play St Ed's no more.
 
TigerBeast78 said:
Yes they might give them a good battle I just said that because St Ed's just had back to back to back championships and in that span St X was 5-7 ,7-5, and 7-5 not exactly great X teams and nothing like their mid to late 2000 teams that were ranked nationally and one year in that time I think they were #1 in the Nation. Either way great series but that might be the reason they didn't want to play St Ed's no more.
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It could be. Playing a state caliber Ed’s on top of Iggy and the GCL-South + the out of state power houses might’ve been a bit much for them. But schools like the GCL South teams, Ed’s, Iggy and Massillon have to play these insane schedules as many local schools don’t want to play them
 
footballsalads43 said:
It could be. Playing a state caliber Ed’s on top of Iggy and the GCL-South + the out of state power houses might’ve been a bit much for them. But schools like the GCL South teams, Ed’s, Iggy and Massillon have to play these insane schedules as many local schools don’t want to play them
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That is True St X does play in the GCL and that is a meat grinder plus they play some out of state powers so their record I'm sure is misleading
 
TigerBeast78 said:
That is True St X does play in the GCL and that is a meat grinder plus they play some out of state powers so their record I'm sure is misleading
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I can’t remember the year, it was 2016 or something, but they went 5-5 and ended up winning D1 state beating Iggy! Sean Clifford was their QB I believe. Anytime any of those NE Ohio independent schools (Ed, Iggy, Massillon, Hoban)/GCL south schools go 5-5 or something like that, I think it’s pretty reasonable to say the record is a little misleading!
 
footballsalads43 said:
I can’t remember the year, it was 2016 or something, but they went 5-5 and ended up winning D1 state beating Iggy! Sean Clifford was their QB I believe. Anytime any of those NE Ohio independent schools (Ed, Iggy, Massillon, Hoban)/GCL south schools go 5-5 or something like that, I think it’s pretty reasonable to say the record is a little misleading!
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Yep I remember that. It was before the playoff expansion and I thought you got to be kidding me they made the playoffs at 5-5 and then they ran the table and won it all.
 
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2020 arguably the greatest team in Waverly school history next to 1989. Played only a 6 game season losing to Clinton-Massie on a walk off field goal 31-28. The win would’ve marked the deepest playoff run in school history
 
edsfootball10 said:
St Ed’s , the older guys will say loosing to Moe and Fairfield in the title games but that’s before my time.

05 game vs Massillon at the rubber bowl , I remember my dad calling my mom telling her we had the game wrapped up , Massillon converts a 3 and 30 and wins in the fourth Ed’s fans shocked.

Then the following year in 06 vs Warren Harding at Browns stadium, eagles were loaded played down to their competition and just couldn’t score. McDaniels lead raiders were always tough as hell.

Both those teams could have won state titles it just wasn’t meant to be. But it got gibbons fired and we went into a 3 year dark ages before becoming the powerhouse every eagle alumni knew we could be.
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2005 was brutal for us. 2006 was worse in some ways. Those losses sting less now considering the success but I know you know just how brutal those were. I thought we'd never win a title after those and Gibby leaving. The next few years were not good...to say the least.

But it's 2012 for me. After beating Ignatius in one of the best Holy War games ever played (both 9-0 going into it), I was a true believer. Then up 56-35 in the second half against Mentor and still losing. I remember leaving Byers Field in disbelief, I just didn't want to believe the Trubisky train got us. That Mentor team was special. They ran out of gas after playing a gauntlet of a playoff schedule.

Moeller was the eventual champion over Mentor, a team we beat in the regular season. It just doesn't sit well with me. Thought if we played Moeller again we'd get them again.
 
eaglesfan216 said:
2005 was brutal for us. 2006 was worse in some ways. Those losses sting less now considering the success but I know you know just how brutal those were. I thought we'd never win a title after those and Gibby leaving. The next few years were not good...to say the least.

But it's 2012 for me. After beating Ignatius in one of the best Holy War games ever played (both 9-0 going into it), I was a true believer. Then up 56-35 in the second half against Mentor and still losing. I remember leaving Byers Field in disbelief, I just didn't want to believe the Trubisky train got us. That Mentor team was special. They ran out of gas after playing a gauntlet of a playoff schedule.

Moeller was the eventual champion over Mentor, a team we beat in the regular season. It just doesn't sit well with me. Thought if we played Moeller again we'd get them again.
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2012 was tough , Mitch with those big WRs were torching our smaller Dbs. Great players do that somtimes , the kid eventually did get drafted so I don’t feel awful about it lol . Same with the Maurice Clarrett 300 yard game in 2000.

I’d personally say the 2011 loss to iggy in the playoffs was a back breaker. Shaun Crawford with a late pick only for Fallon to then fumble the snap was absolutely ridiculous. Iv never seen our D line absolutely murder a qb all game only to lose on a huge fg like that.
 
The mid 1970's were not kind to my school. We were ready to go, but just never quite got there. We would spend hours working on special teams. The kickers honed their craft, the qb and receivers worked on their best two point conversion play. In the end, for two straight seasons they never got to use them.

For me, it was that second year that was most disappointing. After one season of not scoring a point, we thought better times were for sure ahead for us the next year, "wait for next year" was the battle cry of the JV kids. But when that season arrived, again we never scored a solitary point. We came close, getting down to the two yard line once. Twenty games without scoring a point is more disappointing than going 0-20.

The next season we finally scored a point, when that happened, the marching band was so surprised they were unprepared to play the fight song. Amazing.
 
D4fan said:
The mid 1970's were not kind to my school. We were ready to go, but just never quite got there. We would spend hours working on special teams. The kickers honed their craft, the qb and receivers worked on their best two point conversion play. In the end, for two straight seasons they never got to use them.

For me, it was that second year that was most disappointing. After one season of not scoring a point, we thought better times were for sure ahead for us the next year, "wait for next year" was the battle cry of the JV kids. But when that season arrived, again we never scored a solitary point. We came close, getting down to the two yard line once. Twenty games without scoring a point is more disappointing than going 0-20.

The next season we finally scored a point, when that happened, the marching band was so surprised they were unprepared to play the fight song. Amazing.
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Dang! No points for two seasons? That is historically bad. Worst of all time bad. That would be rough.
 
cjb5656 said:
Yes, that 2008 game turned into an unexpected defensive struggle after that first drive. Defiance was very tough on D and physical on offense. I recall our AD said he had a couple great conversations with Coach Buti during the week leading up to the game and thought he was a really good dude.
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That game was two trains crossing in the night. I don't remember much about the game, but that season was the last hurrah of the glory days of Defiance football, after four straight seasons of 5-5/6-4 records and much better success from 1990-2003. Meanwhile, I see that Avon has missed the playoffs only once since then (and will probably continue in perpetuity with the ridiculous playoff expansion) and is basically a state power now, while Defiance has two playoff wins and only four legit playoff appearances since. Kind of amazing how much Avon grew since the 80s and 90s, while Defiance has gotten smaller. If I remember correctly, every playoff game in that region that year was very close and all the teams were pretty evenly matched. By the way, Coach Buti is still the AD.

As for the toughest Defiance playoff loss, most people would probably say losing to Buchtel in the 2000 regional final, Defiance led until a last second FG I think and lost in OT, but Buchtel got drilled by Olmsted Falls the next week so I recall it not bothering me as much, because of that. Same in 2001, Avon Lake was drilled by Toledo St. Francis after Defiance literally should have beaten Avon Lake but threw an interception in the end zone at the end. Maybe the worst one was the first playoff loss in 1994 against Walsh – I think Defiance led at some point but then lost it in the second half, a fairly close game. But that was a long time ago. Without thinking deeply, 2002 was a disappointing season for Defiance, I remember some rankings web site that didn’t exist very long, had the Bulldogs in the top 10 in the pre-season after the 2001 team went 8-2 with a sophomore QB, but the 2002 team finished 5-5.
 
eaglesfan216 said:
2005 was brutal for us. 2006 was worse in some ways. Those losses sting less now considering the success but I know you know just how brutal those were. I thought we'd never win a title after those and Gibby leaving. The next few years were not good...to say the least.

But it's 2012 for me. After beating Ignatius in one of the best Holy War games ever played (both 9-0 going into it), I was a true believer. Then up 56-35 in the second half against Mentor and still losing. I remember leaving Byers Field in disbelief, I just didn't want to believe the Trubisky train got us. That Mentor team was special. They ran out of gas after playing a gauntlet of a playoff schedule.

Moeller was the eventual champion over Mentor, a team we beat in the regular season. It just doesn't sit well with me. Thought if we played Moeller again we'd get them again.
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Are those games on YouTube?
 
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Are those games on YouTube?
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Not the whole game but this is a great recap of the 2012 Holy War with some of the big plays and the atmosphere of the place. I remember people begging for tickets. It was right before streaming really took over and everyone wanted to be there. Byers holds 12,750 supposedly, there had to be 15-17k people stuffed in there that night.

Not much on the Mentor-Eds game from that year, which is a game I like to forget.

The Mentor two point conversion against Ignatius was another legendary moment in that season.

I can't believe Mentor didn't win the title that year. It felt like destiny after the two point play. I always felt like they ran out of gas after playing a brutal playoff schedule. The top of Region 1 was loaded that year.
 
edsfootball10 said:
2012 was tough , Mitch with those big WRs were torching our smaller Dbs. Great players do that somtimes , the kid eventually did get drafted so I don’t feel awful about it lol . Same with the Maurice Clarrett 300 yard game in 2000.

I’d personally say the 2011 loss to iggy in the playoffs was a back breaker. Shaun Crawford with a late pick only for Fallon to then fumble the snap was absolutely ridiculous. Iv never seen our D line absolutely murder a qb all game only to lose on a huge fg like that.
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2011 was especially bad because if I remember correctly we were up 17-3 in the playoff game and blew it. I think both games that year were 20-17 losses. That fumble was heartbreaking. Just couldn't handle the pressure against Ignatius that year. I still think the Eds team was better on paper that year, but just goes to show you anything can happen in an Eds-Ignatius game. 2011 Ignatius was a Chuck Kyle art piece, he got everything out of that team that year.
 
footballsalads43 said:
It could be. Playing a state caliber Ed’s on top of Iggy and the GCL-South + the out of state power houses might’ve been a bit much for them. But schools like the GCL South teams, Ed’s, Iggy and Massillon have to play these insane schedules as many local schools don’t want to play them
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The way it was explained to me, no idea if it's actually true, is that the Cincinnati schools have the "luxury" of the Indiana and Kentucky teams being closer to them than the Cleveland schools. X and Ignatius are both Jesuit schools and mirror each other in many ways. Similar to how we (Eds) and Moeller mirror each other, so our series with them stands.

So while a new series with X would be great for us, they have other options. You also don't want to play a team you may see again in the playoffs/final, which is what I think was a big driver of the Mentor/Eds regular season series coming to an end. The playoff game is all but guaranteed right now so why play in the regular season. Mentor holds the leverage in that discussion, but it makes sense why they don't want to play in the regular season.

For years I thought the GCL would eventually just have a Cleveland division. But the logistics of it are just too insane, way too much travelling ($$$$) involved. If it HAD to happen, it probably would. I know the staff at Eds have a hard time getting 9-10 games every year, but they make it work. 8 home games this year as well. So they're doing something right.
 
eaglesfan216 said:
The way it was explained to me, no idea if it's actually true, is that the Cincinnati schools have the "luxury" of the Indiana and Kentucky teams being closer to them than the Cleveland schools. X and Ignatius are both Jesuit schools and mirror each other in many ways. Similar to how we (Eds) and Moeller mirror each other, so our series with them stands.

So while a new series with X would be great for us, they have other options. You also don't want to play a team you may see again in the playoffs/final, which is what I think was a big driver of the Mentor/Eds regular season series coming to an end. The playoff game is all but guaranteed right now so why play in the regular season. Mentor holds the leverage in that discussion, but it makes sense why they don't want to play in the regular season.

For years I thought the GCL would eventually just have a Cleveland division. But the logistics of it are just too insane, way too much travelling ($$$$) involved. If it HAD to happen, it probably would. I know the staff at Eds have a hard time getting 9-10 games every year, but they make it work. 8 home games this year as well. So they're doing something right.
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The Cincinnati GCL South schools do have that luxury I would say. Right across the river they do have Cov Cath who matches up great with them. And then there are a boat load of teams in Indianapolis and Louisville who they also play on a regular basis and it’s less than 2 hours to either city. I will say that Northeast Ohio overall has more independent schools though, southwest Ohio doesn’t have too many independent teams it seems like these days. But that almost doesn’t matter for Iggy and Ed’s because the independents seem to avoid them as well from what I can see. So I would say the Cincinnati teams have an easier time filling schedules but they do often have to look out of state for opponents.

I always wondered if a GCL Cleveland would work. Iggy and Ed’s would be obvious members, but I can’t think of 2 other schools who would be open to joining.
 
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