What are some Ohio School Districts that should be consolidated? What are some Ohio School Districts that should consider adding another High School?

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Reading about all the levies, and seeing it talked about on other posts, I thought I would ask Yappi these two questions and get some good discussion going! Ohio seems to have a lot of school districts, and a lot of high schools overall. Some in rural parts of the state where there are two school districts essentially right next to each other!! Then there are some school districts that are getting so big, that opening another High School may make sense.. (I know a similar thread had been posted years ago, but lets have an updated discussion on this)

Share some schools that you think need to be consolidated, or schools that need to be split!
 
 
In my opinion only: Wellsville and Southern to East Liverpool. Leetonia and United to Salem. Lisbon to Beaver Local. Finally, a merger spoke about decades ago: Crestview, Columbiana and East Palestine. All schools are in Columbiana County. Interesting is the Crestview, Columbiana, EP merger would create a possible D3 football school, with a good athletics program in all sports.
 
Margaretta and Danbury should be consolidated. The campus should be located in Bay View.

Fremont should add another school. It should be named Fremont Heinz and the school colors should be red and yellow.

Sandusky should also add another school:
Sandusky Cedar Point. The campus should be located along US 6 next to Sports Force Park and the mascot should be the Coasters. The school colors should be red and royal blue (no white) as a shout out to all the park employees who wore them as part of their unis in the 80s.

In the interest of full transparency, I admit that I make these assertions based solely on the my interest in improving parity within the new-look NOC.
 
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2112 said:
Margaretta and Danbury should be consolidated. The campus should be located in Bay View.

Fremont should add another school. It should be named Fremont Heinz and the school colors should be red and yellow.

Sanduaky should also add another school:
Sandusky Cedar Point. The campus should located along US 6 next to Sports Force Park and the mascot should be the Coasters. The school colors should be red and royal blue (no white) as a shout out to all the park employees who wore them aa part of their unis in the 80s.

In the interest of full transparency, I admit that I make these assertions based solely on the my interest in improving parity within the new-look NOC.
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Maybe not yet, but Miami Trace sticks out as a district that may benefit from a split. That district is very vast in terms of total land.

In terms of schools that should merge, there’s a number that fit the bill in the greater Dayton area.

I am a fan of larger schools as they have the ability to provide more niche resources to kids. But i also see value in the small community aspect.
 
Realistically it will be the southeast and east side of the state that will see more consolidations due to larger population loss. Cincinnati could see some as well, Columbus City to a lesser extent, Cleveland the most likely of the 3 C’s.

Not sure how much levies come into play, unless you would have 2 neighboring districts who both struggle with levies and need new schools. How many rural districts in Ohio are like Switzerland of Ohio LSD where it’s one district with multiple, rural high schools?

Where I see consolidation occurring is the ancillary services that some schools are pushing to the local ESC’s. Ohio still has 54 ESC’s with many northwestern Ohio counties having their own. Economies of scale really come into play with these organizations and some are much better than others. No reason for Auglaize and Mercer counties should have their own ESC’s. Mercer County has 17 school districts who purchase services, which is more common, but there have been 2 schools outside of Mercer County that have disaffiliated from their own counties ESC’s and joined the Mercer County ESC.

Heck, my person opinion, smaller, rural counties should go back and have county superintendents because the pool of new superintendents is becoming smaller, same with school treasurers.

Unrealistically you could draw up dozens of consolidations in western and northwestern Ohio… but you know the state paid 75% towards building many new schools over here in the early 2000s.
 
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Maybe not yet, but Miami Trace sticks out as a district that may benefit from a split. That district is very vast in terms of total land.

In terms of schools that should merge, there’s a number that fit the bill in the greater Dayton area.

I am a fan of larger schools as they have the ability to provide more niche resources to kids. But i also see value in the small community aspect.
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Miami Trace covers A LOT of space. I think Washington CH needs to expand their coverage beyond the city limit and take some of it from Trace. Greenfield McClain as well. There are some individuals with a Greenfield address that are in the MT district and both McClain and WCH schools are closer overall…

As for Dayton, I know Bethel is growing but them and Tecumseh are awful close to each other… I know they are both in different counties, but that’s like a stone throw away. I’m sure some of the WOAC schools in Darke County can merge.

Also another interesting one is I think West Carrollton and Miamisburg could probably be one school district. Those two cities already kind of mesh together and if you combine those schools you get enrollments similar to Fairmont, Beavercreek, Springboro and Centerville.
 
ctown14 said:
Realistically it will be the southeast and east side of the state that will see more consolidations due to larger population loss. Cincinnati could see some as well, Columbus City to a lesser extent, Cleveland the most likely of the 3 C’s.

Not sure how much levies come into play, unless you would have 2 neighboring districts who both struggle with levies and need new schools. How many rural districts in Ohio are like Switzerland of Ohio LSD where it’s one district with multiple, rural high schools?

Where I see consolidation occurring is the ancillary services that some schools are pushing to the local ESC’s. Ohio still has 54 ESC’s with many northwestern Ohio counties having their own. Economies of scale really come into play with these organizations and some are much better than others. No reason for Auglaize and Mercer counties should have their own ESC’s. Mercer County has 17 school districts who purchase services, which is more common, but there have been 2 schools outside of Mercer County that have disaffiliated from their own counties ESC’s and joined the Mercer County ESC.

Heck, my person opinion, smaller, rural counties should go back and have county superintendents because the pool of new superintendents is becoming smaller, same with school treasurers.

Unrealistically you could draw up dozens of consolidations in western and northwestern Ohio… but you know the state paid 75% towards building many new schools over here in the early 2000s.
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There should also be like 3 consolidations in Putnam County. Vanlue in Hancock should be split up with most going to Arcadia and Carey.
 
I've always wondered about districts in the Youngstown-Warren area. Struthers-Campbell-Lowellville are geographically small. Do we need all three? The same with Niles-Weathersfield-McDonald-Girard. The Sebring SD could easily be absorbed by West Branch. There are many others across the state. Maybe the state could create a formula. If a district falls under a certain number of students per square mile it is merged with a neighboring district. Get rid of a lot of bureaucracy (costs?)
 
Covington, Milton-Union and Newton merge into Miami West. Probably looking at a d2-3 school district. All new facilities. Never happen in a million years.
FM and Arcanum merge with TriVillage. Tri County N and Twin Valley South. The whole “twin valley” went away in the early 80s after Twin Valley North changed to Tri County North.
 
2112 said:
Margaretta and Danbury should be consolidated. The campus should be located in Bay View.

Fremont should add another school. It should be named Fremont Heinz and the school colors should be red and yellow.

Sanduaky should also add another school:
Sandusky Cedar Point. The campus should located along US 6 next to Sports Force Park and the mascot should be the Coasters. The school colors should be red and royal blue (no white) as a shout out to all the park employees who wore them aa part of their unis in the 80s.

In the interest of full transparency, I admit that I make these assertions based solely on the my interest in improving parity within the new-look NOC.
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Halftime show can be the laser light show circa 1999, fight song can be “walkin on sunshine” or “ready to go,” cheerleaders will chant “welcome back riders, how was your riiiiiide?!?!”

(Erie county native here)
 
I've been part of consolidated school districts both as parent and school administrator. Sometimes, unfortunately, old loyalty ties are hard to overcome. Combining communities who were one time rivals is not easily accomplished. In Portage County there were many school consolidations in the 50' and 60's.
 
Burreaux said:
I’m sure the time will come eventually to where a lot of the smaller schools in Scioto county and Lawrence county will consolidate. Imo
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I’ve said for years - I do not understand Sciotoville East, Glenwood New Boston, and Clay’s existence in the modern era. I sometimes don’t understand Valley, who could easily be split by Minford, Eastern and Northwest. Oak Hill can be split by Jackson, Wellston, and South Webster. And Fort Frye and Waterford are like a half mile apart as the crow flies. History makes sense for a lot of these because of unreliable transportation and geographic limitations. But nowadays… they don’t make much sense to me.

Coldwater in Mercer Co is also weirdly drawn and could easily be absorbed by about 4 other districts. But that would never happen. Danbury should absolutely be absorbed by Port Clinton or Margaretta, with PC making the most sense. Firelands in Lorain Co could also be absorbed by Vermilion, Oberlin, Amherst, and Wellington.
 
Serious question, is there any districts seriously considering consolidation in Ohio?

Recently in Indiana, the house budget committee released a budget that also would close a school in Randolph County. School officials were caught off guard.

A county in Kentucky has been in talks for several years to consolidate 2 schools, finally moving forward.
 
4verts said:
Jefferson Township needs to consolidate with someone.
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This has been talked about for a long time and NEEDS to happen. I know I've made posts on yappi before about it. Part of the district almost 100% OE to Valley View and wants to be annexed into it.

The rest of the district split between Trotwood, Dixie, and DPS. It'd amount to about 10 kids each at this point.
 
LoisEinhorn said:
Halftime show can be the laser light show circa 1999, fight song can be “walkin on sunshine” or “ready to go,” cheerleaders will chant “welcome back riders, how was your riiiiiide?!?!”

(Erie county native here)
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Former Erie County native here myself... I worked at at CP a couple summers right after high school... to this day I'm not sure there's any song I heard more times than Paula Abdul's Straight Up. Another strong candidate for the fight song.

As far as the Fremont Heinz Hot Dogs... we can use this for the fight song:

 
LoisEinhorn said:
I’ve said for years - I do not understand Sciotoville East, Glenwood New Boston, and Clay’s existence in the modern era. I sometimes don’t understand Valley, who could easily be split by Minford, Eastern and Northwest. Oak Hill can be split by Jackson, Wellston, and South Webster. And Fort Frye and Waterford are like a half mile apart as the crow flies. History makes sense for a lot of these because of unreliable transportation and geographic limitations. But nowadays… they don’t make much sense to me.

Coldwater in Mercer Co is also weirdly drawn and could easily be absorbed by about 4 other districts. But that would never happen. Danbury should absolutely be absorbed by Port Clinton or Margaretta, with PC making the most sense. Firelands in Lorain Co could also be absorbed by Vermilion, Oberlin, Amherst, and Wellington.
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My entire life I have been just like you and questioned as to why those small schools existed and have for so long. Clay Sciotoville and Glenwood can easily be dispersed to the right places, also Franklin Furnace Green is another that you could do away with as well
 
cincifbfan said:
So should Turpin and Anderson. It makes zero sense that everyone in the Forest Hills district comes together to attend 1 middle school just to separate into 2 high schools.
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But in both Northwest Local Schools and Forest Hills Local Schools it's all about avoiding drama from parents.
 
LoisEinhorn said:
I’ve said for years - I do not understand Sciotoville East, Glenwood New Boston, and Clay’s existence in the modern era. I sometimes don’t understand Valley, who could easily be split by Minford, Eastern and Northwest. Oak Hill can be split by Jackson, Wellston, and South Webster. And Fort Frye and Waterford are like a half mile apart as the crow flies. History makes sense for a lot of these because of unreliable transportation and geographic limitations. But nowadays… they don’t make much sense to me.

Coldwater in Mercer Co is also weirdly drawn and could easily be absorbed by about 4 other districts. But that would never happen. Danbury should absolutely be absorbed by Port Clinton or Margaretta, with PC making the most sense. Firelands in Lorain Co could also be absorbed by Vermilion, Oberlin, Amherst, and Wellington.
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Coldwater district itself is weirdly drawn, however the town itself is the largest of the MAC schools probably and could probably still have a larger male enrollment than Marion Local. It only looks weird because it skips out to St Anthony and honestly that should be Ft. Recovery SD if you ask me.
 
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