That's a heavyweight lineup. You forgot #2 '76 Moeller, whom Jerry Faust says was his greatest. With all due respect, I don't think Loveland makes that list. I would probably place '86 Fairfield (State Champs D1) or even some of the other Moeller, St. X teams ahead as well. Appreciate the bias though
And Troy won 22-13.
I said 20 years ago and I'll say it again... Had there been a playoff in '71, I honestly believe Troy was the best team in the state. Would have loved to have seen them beat Massillon.
Why mention Massillon? Warren Harding won the 1971 title.
In 1971, Troy finished 4th, the Tigers 6th In the AP Poll.Because IT"S Massillon! I get it though. I believe Troy came in #2 in the "AAA" poll voting that year. So somebody besides me thought they were pretty good...
That's a heavyweight lineup. You forgot #2 '76 Moeller, whom Jerry Faust says was his greatest. With all due respect, I don't think Loveland makes that list. I would probably place '86 Fairfield (State Champs D1) or even some of the other Moeller, St. X teams ahead as well. Appreciate the bias though
Baller comments?
wait is loveland high located in Hamilton Warren or Clermont?
I think this would actually be a really interesting stat. Like you said, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are more counties without a title than those with one.
Ned Booher. Rough guy. Coached eventual Milton-Union and Piqua head coach, Steve Magoteaux in HS.
I also have come to learn over the years that there is d1 talent and there is D1 talent. They are not all equal as we know.
Also, things we remember from our youth often seem bigger-than-life, while after years of perspective they begin to appear less sensational (Secretariat not withstanding).
In support of your '71 Troy analysis, I will say this. Though it was only one game (and maybe Troy was a little off that night), Centerville's best 2 or 3 teams from the mid 70's/early 80's would have beaten the '71 Elk team by 3 touchdowns. Of this, I am certain. '71 Troy won by 9.
I can also tell you that Bob Gregg once hinted that prior to the Centerville run ( '75 on ) , that no Elk team prior to that era would have beaten his best Jefferson teams ("AA" or not .)
With respect to Gordon Bell...He was so revered by his opponents in HS, that he remains the only HS player that I can remember where HS fans from the other team would line up after the game to get an autograph. How cool must that have been? By the way what was the name of Northmont's coach you mentioned? First rate stand-up guy as I recall...
Sounds like a great Harding team. Would likely have been a terrific matchup. Its just that back then, if you were a Southern Ohio boy and you wanted to prove yourself at the State level, Massillon still had that mystique and reputation. Before internet, we too, didn't really know that much about who was who up North...but we knew about Massillon.
I understand.
I would add Campbell Memorial's 1989 DIII State Finalist team on this list.
How about 2006 Cardinal Mooney? Team was loaded with D1 talent. State champs.
According to Wikipedia, the HS is classified as Hamilton County.
From what I am able to figure there are 46 counties with schools with state titles. That should leave 42 without a title.
As soon as I read that you didn’t place the 1920 or 1934 McKinley teams in the top 5, a biased opinion was not in the works.
There are 40 of Ohio's 88 counties that have never won a state football playoff title. The totals by county since 1972:
Most Surprising counties without a title are
With only 6 schools with football (Ft Rec, CW, St Henry, Marion Local, Parkway, Celina), wtihg one (Ft Rec) just over 20 years old, 25 is not too shabby for the hillbillies of Mercer County,
Put my data in a pivot table to see where we differed and realized I just couldn't count, 48 with and 40 without are the same numbers I had. The only difference I have is I put Mogadore in Portage county (it is where the national database for educational statistics puts them) and by your numbers you have them in Summit.
My dad and grandpa tell me stories about that team, they were great. Wasn't insinuating Covington's teams were the best in the county, just putting forward our best teams ever. Has to be '71 Troy and '06 Piqua IMO.