If Stritch stops accepting vouchers they close tomorrow.Rumor has it that Stritch is getting rid of vouchers, maybe that played into the coaching move?
Ericka Haney getting a second chance at Scott will be interesting if it goes through.Heard the Boys Scott job is going to go to former girls coach from Central Catholic. Can’t remember her name. Will this be a first in the area a woman head coach, coaching a varsity team
I dunno if I agree with that. Having so many voucher kids is why most alumni don’t send their kids there. Also FYI their best remaining kids’ dad is going to be there coach so he doesn’t leave.If Stritch stops accepting vouchers they close tomorrow.
Cutting vouchers would be a death knell for Stritch. I do not believe there are a group of alums waiting for vouchers to go away so they can pay full tuition and send their kids to the school. I do not believe this group exists.I dunno if I agree with that. Having so many voucher kids is why most alumni don’t send their kids there. Also FYI their best remaining kids’ dad is going to be there coach so he doesn’t leave.
Wonder how many from the old staff he’ll keep and how that will influence the talented group of under class players.Emmanuel made it official on Sed Harris. He will also be their AD.
Wonder how many from the old staff he’ll keep and how that will influence the talented group of under class players.
Looks like Whitmer missed out on Bays and Leach, their A+ targets and are settling on Patterson from EC and PG Brown from EC. Miles tbd, but SJJ in the lead.If Whitmer ends up with all these new transfers, the real question is who ended up with the best recruiting class in NWO, BGSU? Toledo? Or Whitmer?
CC also got one of those EC kids who was an 8th grader last year (Mack-Russell). They will have a good young core for that first year in a tough CHSL Cardinal.Looks like Whitmer missed out on Bays and Leach, their A+ targets and are settling on Patterson from EC and PG Brown from EC. Miles tbd, but SJJ in the lead.
I can't speak to the other two hires but the football hire was not a poor choice. I don't think a lot of people were breaking down the door for that job but choosing an alumnus who was on staff at CS a few years ago before helping Waite's program improve and just came from a similar situation at Woodward. Thompson gained numbers and implemented a lot of positives at Woodward in his short time there. Woodward's non-league was brutal and then injuries with a small squad wearing down kept them from competing much in the second half.Stritch shoulda made Sedron AD last year instead of Shumaker. Dude just made 3 straight lazy hires. Football coach- guy who was 1-10 at his last stop.
Not to mention Stritch has ZERO money to invest in coaching salaries. Most coaches do not do it for the money and are largely underpaid but I would bet Coach Thompson is losing money on the deal (not that he cares). I do not think any of Stritch's recent hires are poor choices considering the predicament the school is in (low enrollment, short on talent, little money to pay competitive salaries).I can't speak to the other two hires but the football hire was not a poor choice. I don't think a lot of people were breaking down the door for that job but choosing an alumnus who was on staff at CS a few years ago before helping Waite's program improve and just came from a similar situation at Woodward. Thompson gained numbers and implemented a lot of positives at Woodward in his short time there. Woodward's non-league was brutal and then injuries with a small squad wearing down kept them from competing much in the second half.
The only reason the football hire isn’t a poor choice is because nobody else wanted the job. He was barely on staff at CS and the head coach couldn’t trust him to run his own position group. Woodward might have been the worst team I’ve ever seen play last year. They would’ve went 0-10 again. But at least they found someone.I can't speak to the other two hires but the football hire was not a poor choice. I don't think a lot of people were breaking down the door for that job but choosing an alumnus who was on staff at CS a few years ago before helping Waite's program improve and just came from a similar situation at Woodward. Thompson gained numbers and implemented a lot of positives at Woodward in his short time there. Woodward's non-league was brutal and then injuries with a small squad wearing down kept them from competing much in the second half.
Mack-Russell has not played a minute of high school basketball and has already garnered a D1 offer from Liberty University.CC also got one of those EC kids who was an 8th grader last year (Mack-Russell). They will have a good young core for that first year in a tough CHSL Cardinal.
It’s honestly a good thing Stacey can recruit the best talent in Toledo because let’s be honest, how good of a coach is he actually? His first year at Whitmer when they had average talent, what did they win, 3 or 4 games? And then the past two seasons he’s brought in his own talent and what’s the best they’ve done in the tournament? District finals and both times getting beat by teams with less talent than his!CC also got one of those EC kids who was an 8th grader last year (Mack-Russell). They will have a good young core for that first year in a tough CHSL Cardinal.
Patterson is a huge get for Whitmer. Always felt like he tended to get overlooked by Easter, for better or worse. Will also help the Panthers in football as well.
Very cool that the Irish will have two D1 guys on the floor. A rarity and a testament to what Floyd has done for that program.Mack-Russell has not played a minute of high school basketball and has already garnered a D1 offer from Liberty University.
Fixed it.Very cool that the Irish will have two D1 guys on the floor. A rarity and a testament to whatFloyd hasvouchers have done for that program.
Glad you said Stacey & Whitmer because I thought you were describing Central.It’s honestly a good thing Stacey can recruit the best talent in Toledo because let’s be honest, how good of a coach is he actually? His first year at Whitmer when they had average talent, what did they win, 3 or 4 games? And then the past two seasons he’s brought in his own talent and what’s the best they’ve done in the tournament? District finals and both times getting beat by teams with less talent than his!
IMO it says a lot about a high school coach that has to go out every year and poach local talent so he can maybe finally get out of districts!
Been happening for some time. Be honest, there was a coach or two that checked you out in your butt huggers at those old Waite fieldhouse open gyms.I suppose there are different levels of recruiting in the Toledo area - but I am not aware of any program (public or private) that does not recruit according to OHSAA rules.
I saw one of the larger local public schools put 2 7th grade teams on the floor that looked like they came to the game in horse and buggy, then in the 8th grade 80% of their roster got turned over and they looked like the Showtime Lakers.
The old model of school boundaries and coaching up the kids that walk through the door without a carrot dangled in front of them was gone 30 years ago.
Every aspect of life is like free agency - school, career, relationships/family etc. Sometimes for perfectly valid reasons, but often times very short sighted and ego driven.
I disagree, not every school is recruiting. Even some with “open enrollment” aren’t just letting anyone walk in the door and they aren’t actively trying to poach talent away from other school districts. Using vouchers or open enrollment to try and bring in the best athletes should be at least frowned upon and preferably penalized no matter how long it’s gone on and how many schools are doing it.I suppose there are different levels of recruiting in the Toledo area - but I am not aware of any program (public or private) that does not recruit according to OHSAA rules.
I saw one of the larger local public schools put 2 7th grade teams on the floor that looked like they came to the game in horse and buggy, then in the 8th grade 80% of their roster got turned over and they looked like the Showtime Lakers.
The old model of school boundaries and coaching up the kids that walk through the door without a carrot dangled in front of them was gone 30 years ago.
Every aspect of life is like free agency - school, career, relationships/family etc. Sometimes for perfectly valid reasons, but often times very short sighted and ego driven.
I think it's a bad move but we'll see. The girls & boys games are so different, I can't imagine running a program in either sport until at least being an assistant for a year. The guys game is more vertical & offensively driven, whereas due to height/leaping ability girls ball tends to be more physical and defense creates offense. The drills are also considerably differentHeard the Boys Scott job is going to go to former girls coach from Central Catholic. Can’t remember her name. Will this be a first in the area a woman head coach, coaching a varsity team
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bEcaUsE I tHouGht yOu wEre dEscRiBinG CeNtRaLGlad you said Stacey & Whitmer because I thought you were describing Central.
The recruiting game is something else, and Stacey is up there with the best of them, but imagine if Whitmer could somehow deny all of the crappy kids that no one wants and then offer public money as scholarships to the fast kids who can jump high? It is amazing Stacey can even compete against that TBH.
Is any of that even the baby elephant in this room? I think there are bigger issues with this coach's history to consider. As for the coaching, this isn't elite level. Every coach has to learn new ways with new teams. Ignoring for the moment any social/cultural aspects, There is absolutely no issue from a coaching POV, that coach working the boy's side. If a guy can do it, and they do, so can the gals.I think it's a bad move but we'll see. The girls & boys games are so different, I can't imagine running a program in either sport until at least being an assistant for a year. The guys game is more vertical & offensively driven, whereas due to height/leaping ability girls ball tends to be more physical and defense creates offense. The drills are also considerably different