I'm not sure I'd say that. I've not seen this team not give effort day in and day out. After Steer's homer in the 8th yesterday, you'd think by the dugout reaction we were contending for a playoff spot. Most of these guys are auditioning for jobs either with the Reds or someone else next season.
What are you referring to? The 6 weeks at the start of 2021 when he was bad? The rest of the time (5+ years) he was great. Not good, great. Some career numbers: 3.60 ERA, 1.20 WHIP, 929 K in only 851 innings. He is an elite pitchers and Seattle cut him a smart deal. Shameful that the Reds did not do that.
So Baseball Reference has a "similar" player category they use to link up players with their peers and it goes back in history.
I totally agree with this. Until it became totally clear that Castillo was getting traded, I was still on board with giving him a 4-year deal to stay. I remember sometime back in May or June, I even called into Extra Innings one night and suggested a 4-year, $85M to $90M deal would be doable for the team, and then saw some idiot on Twitter ridicule my take as being a ridiculous lowball offer that was unrealistic. Turns out that AAV is basically what he got, just for one more year.
I only care in so much as it would be just desserts for Bargain Bob and Pauper Phil if the team finishes 0-9 to set the franchise record for futility with 102 losses. But against fellow doormats like the Pirates and Cubs, they’ll probably avoid the disgrace of triple-digit losses.
The Pirates just swept us at home a few weeks ago, I'm not counting any wins. This lineup simply can't score, and we don't do anything to manufacture runs.
Would not be shocked, just very dissappointed. This franchise has become a joke.
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Adding to that, in the 17 seasons of the Castellini regime, the Reds have a mere five winning seasons, and the two most recent were of an extremely modest variety (31-29 in 2020, 83-79 in 2021). My math tells me that means there’s a 70.5% chance going into any given season that it’s going to be a losing season for the Reds.Back in 2006, when Bob Castellini bought the Reds, he said:
“We’re buying the Reds to win. Anything else is unacceptable,” said Robert Castellini, who was approved by Major League Baseball on Jan. 19 as the team’s new majority owner. … Asked how long it would take to bring the Reds back to playoff contention, Castellini said, “Our goal is to put a contender on the field this year.”
Holding the Ownership Group Accountable for Its 2006 Promises
All we’re asking is for Reds ownership to do what they told us they were going to do. If they can’t, Reds fans will likely turn their attention elsewhere.
Well, 16 years later, we have six 90+ loss seasons to show for it. Since the MLB went to a 162 game schedule around 1960, the Reds have had eleven 90+ loss seasons. So that means there were five 90+ loss seasons in 45 years before Castellini, but Bob has racked up six 90+ loss seasons in only 16 years.
Before Bob, 1 year out of 9 was terrible (11%). With Bob, 37.5% of the seasons are terrible. And it looks like next year will add to the total.
#SellTheTeamBob
I'm sure the Reds will look under every stone to add a 4th and 5th starter, but I believe Anderson deserves a shot at it. Over his last 5 appearances,
The Reds picked up Anderson after he was released by the Rays near the end of August, I believe he was only a minor leaguer with the Rays. Anderson and Reds pitching coach Derek Johnson worked together in Milwaukee. Now I'm not saying that Anderson is the answer to anything, but he's a veteran pitcher, he's 58-49 in his 9 year career with a 4.21 ERA.
Wow, I had not thought about the farm system, but you are right.
We could probably debate this until the cows come home, but Zack Cozart, Billy Hamilton, Devin Mesoraco, Mike Leake, Tyler Mahle had at least equal if not better careers than Jessie Winker. So if you're measuring with Wink, then you have to include these guys. Cozart, for as much as we bagged on his bat, was a solid shortstop for the Reds for 6 seasons. Hamilton was one of the most exciting players in baseball, Mesoraco fell to injuries and Mahle was our best home grown starting pitching talent since Mike Leake.
I said position players.
I guess Cozart fits the bill, because he debuted in the majors in 2011, and he was decent. But if your farm system's reputation is banking on Barnhart, Winker, Cozart, Mesoraco and Hamilton, you have very serious problems. None of them are above average MLB players over their entire career.
Losing 7 straight to the Pittsburgh Pirates says enough. Believe what you will.
Did you know... Billy Hamilton is 74th All time in Reds history in games played with 690. 64th in at bats with the Reds with 2,491. 8th in club history with 277 stolen bases.
His impact is pretty clear: The Reds lost ground to the league with Hamilton in CF because most teams were obviously penciling in a center fielder who can consistently hit the ball. Just because Hamilton was given a ton of games and at-bats to prove he couldn’t hit isn’t exactly a feather in the Reds’ cap.
Why would the there be apathy. They are finishing with 20 - 40 more wins than many thought plausible back in the first 30 games of the season.
Smart teams don't pay guys to steal second base, they pay guys who can get on first base (or hit it over the fence). Apologies to Moneyball.
I agree 100%, especially when you have the number of high first round picks that we've had. Robert Stephenson was a bust. Nick Senzel is proving to be a bust. It appears we are moving the right direction with Greene and Lodolo, and hopefully the young guys we got with the trades this year pan out. I guess if we can't draft our own, we'll send veterans to other teams for their draft picks.
It does speak volumes.
There's no doubt that Billy got a chance to play in Cincy because we were rebuilding, and he's likely not get the opportunity with a contender. Actually Billy's numbers would fit more with today's players than 5+ years ago. I disagree that he was a huge liability. He struggled to get on base and hit, BUT when he did, he was a guy who could change the direction of a game. Being able to steal bases opens up so much offensively for baseball teams. And in a game like baseball where there are alot of close games, one at bat can make a difference.
Billy's OBP would be acceptable, barely, if he would hit 30+ HR. With no power and terrible on-base %, you cannot play. Go sort the MLB stats on OBP and take a look. For an OBP at .290 or lower with less than 5 HR, you will find exactly 1 player this year with enough AB's to qualify. Myles Straw from Cleveland. He is also widely regarded as terrible, but the Guards have a real OF problem too...
