wolves82
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Sure. I frequently learn stuff from people like Indiandad, Brianwr112 and Gh0st. You on the other hand never have a meaningful fact or insight.You do realize that you’re not always right, right?
Sure. I frequently learn stuff from people like Indiandad, Brianwr112 and Gh0st. You on the other hand never have a meaningful fact or insight.You do realize that you’re not always right, right?
Probably true, but the Rockies are 23-14 at home. I'm guessing they will out-score the Brew Crew a couple times this weekend in Denver, the Brewers offense is bad.Reds are going to need to keep winning at a high clip...
Brewers have 10 games against Colorado and Arizona. Very likely the Brewers return to their winning ways.
Sure. I frequently learn stuff from people like Indiandad, Brianwr112 and Gh0st. You on the other hand never have a meaningful fact or insight.
The Reds don’t have to do anything, it’s only late June ?The Rocks may get two at home but I don't see the Brewers going less than 7-3 in this stretch.
That means the Reds have to go 8-2 to gain ground. That's a tall order against the teams they have coming up.
2 games back in mid June - I don't think gaining ground every week is vital. Just keep playing well and stay healthy - I would love to go 6-4 or 7-3 the next 10 games.The Rocks may get two at home but I don't see the Brewers going less than 7-3 in this stretch.
That means the Reds have to go 8-2 to gain ground. That's a tall order against the teams they have coming up.
it's important to either maintain or gain ground. Ownership isn't likely to make additions if this team is 5 games back and in 3rd or 4th place.2 games back in mid June - I don't think gaining ground every week is vital. Just keep playing well and stay healthy - I would love to go 6-4 or 7-3 the next 10 games.
5 games back wouldn't mean panic mode. Especially with how many guys they have outit's important to either maintain or gain ground. Ownership isn't likely to make additions if this team is 5 games back and in 3rd or 4th place.
Well, we all know you don't make decisions based on 1 game in baseball, but we got a bit of an answer in the 9th inning last night. Outside of Brach, Hembree and Sims, the pen is not very reliable. Amir is just so inconsistent...The Reds bullpen was fantastic against the Brewers. Did the Pen turn it around or is the Brewers O that bad?
Last night answers this question.The Reds bullpen was fantastic against the Brewers. Did the Pen turn it around or is the Brewers O that bad?
For as bad as Garrett has pitched this year he only has 2 losses. The entire bullpen as currently constructed has 5 losses. Most of the guys who were getting killed early on are no longer with the club.Garrett and Suarez are killing this team
Yes it was.Williams is very good - that is not the point. You said Winker got a hit off Anderson, who is lefty. It was the key point of your entire post, and it was wrong.
But I'm still playing Winker everyday unless he asks out.Williams is very good - that is not the point. You said Winker got a hit off Anderson, who is lefty. It was the key point of your entire post, and it was wrong.
Garrett is killing them as he has pitched with the game on the line and has been terrible, the bullpen as a whole is obviously bad but Antone and Sims should be the end of game pitchers going forward. Garrett should be sent down to work on his mental outlook or outright released as should Dolittle. These games will hurt when the race comes down to SeptemberFor as bad as Garrett has pitched this year he only has 2 losses. The entire bullpen as currently constructed has 5 losses. Most of the guys who were getting killed early on are no longer with the club.
By comparison Castillo has 9 losses himself and the starting rotation has 20 losses.
I had hoped Garrett would turn it around and he did for a few non-leverage outings. I think he'd really do better with a change of scenery. It just doesn't seem to be working here, and Bell just doesn't have enough spots to put him in like he needs to to work through it. He's pitching an inning or two a week, that's it. He needs a couple of weeks of regular work and figure some things out.Garrett is killing them as he has pitched with the game on the line and has been terrible, the bullpen as a whole is obviously bad but Antone and Sims should be the end of game pitchers going forward. Garrett should be sent down to work on his mental outlook or outright released as should Dolittle. These games will hurt when the race comes down to September
I believe Bell stated that the other day was a planned day off and they hoped to get to the All-Star Break without needing to rest him again. Everyone knows you'd play everyone 162 games with the staring pitchers going 8-9 innings a gameBut I'm still playing Winker everyday unless he asks out.
Agreed - Sims not available, I think he appeared 3 of last 4 days including a 2-inning stint on one of those days. Hembree and Brach also used heavily during the win streak and unavailable. They have been the 3 reliable guys in the pen.I had hoped Garrett would turn it around and he did for a few non-leverage outings. I think he'd really do better with a change of scenery. It just doesn't seem to be working here, and Bell just doesn't have enough spots to put him in like he needs to to work through it. He's pitching an inning or two a week, that's it. He needs a couple of weeks of regular work and figure some things out.
I don't believe Sims was available last night. Hendrix has been pretty decent and I thought he could get us by last night with a 2 run lead, but by walking the first guy on 4 pitches, he was in trouble. He threw Hosmer about 6 sliders and never threw anything else. Amir pitched from behind on both batters he faced and that's been his issue. He can't spot the fastball and his slider is hittable if it's over the plate. I"m surprised they don't use Dolittle more, since he was brought in and paid quite a bit.
Win/Loss record for a Pitcher is not important. What’s his WHIP, ERA, K/BB?For as bad as Garrett has pitched this year he only has 2 losses. The entire bullpen as currently constructed has 5 losses. Most of the guys who were getting killed early on are no longer with the club.
By comparison Castillo has 9 losses himself and the starting rotation has 20 losses.
That’s the truth. It also doesn’t help Senzel & Moustakas can’t stay healthy.Garrett and Suarez are killing this team
He needs days off, I didn't understand the timing. Why have a planned day off for one of your best hitters against a division rival that you're chasing in the standings? Winning that game is the only way to guarantee gaining ground. Have a planned off day in San Diego where if you lose, the Cubs and Brewers can also still lose and you don't lose any ground.I believe Bell stated that the other day was a planned day off and they hoped to get to the All-Star Break without needing to rest him again. Everyone knows you'd play everyone 162 games with the staring pitchers going 8-9 innings a game
I believe for us, I really don't think righty/ lefty really matters. With the new stupid rule of the 3 batter minimum, that strategy is worthless anyway. That said, you just have to get people out, no matter which way they bat. Antone MAY be back this weekend, but I'm going to be very skeptical that he's going to be able to take much of a workload. He bypassed Tommy John surgery a few years ago to take one more shot at getting to the bigs and he may just be breaking down. Lorenzen can't get here quick enough. I think we just need to go through our minor league system and just start bringing guys up two at a time, rotate in, rotate out. You pitch until you prove you can't handle it and we move on. Bell needs guys he can rely on two out of three days regularly, one inning minimum.Agreed - Sims not available, I think he appeared 3 of last 4 days including a 2-inning stint on one of those days. Hembree and Brach also used heavily during the win streak and unavailable. They have been the 3 reliable guys in the pen.
Really bad scenario to have your only lefties being totally ineffective. Neither Garrett nor Doolittle is trustworthy right now. C. Perez is thankfully in the minors, so everyone else is right-handed. Best hope right now is getting two more good righties (Antone and Lorenzen) healthy. And maybe one of the lefties can get their sh__t together.
I understand that. But all I'm saying is that Winker and Castellenos are our top two offensive weapons, and they are playing at an MVP level. They are in the lineup every day. Now, if you get a chance in a blowout that you can get them out of the game do it.I believe Bell stated that the other day was a planned day off and they hoped to get to the All-Star Break without needing to rest him again. Everyone knows you'd play everyone 162 games with the staring pitchers going 8-9 innings a game
That's just it, baseball managers do too much thinking. You put your best players on the field everyday, unless they ask for a day off or they are really struggling. And how can you say that a bullpen arm is "unavailable" before the game starts? You may need them. Look, I know Sims has pitched alot lately, but he's not throwing 30-40 pitches every outing. Heck you may not have an opportunity to use him for 3 days in a row, and then you may need him 3 days in a row. 3 of the last 4 days, he threw 22-18-20 pitches. That's not much.He needs days off, I didn't understand the timing. Why have a planned day off for one of your best hitters against a division rival that you're chasing in the standings? Winning that game is the only way to guarantee gaining ground. Have a planned off day in San Diego where if you lose, the Cubs and Brewers can also still lose and you don't lose any ground.
In hindsight, all worked out. But the thinking confuses me. It's far from the Tony LaRussa school of thought where he would alter his pitching rotation so that his #1, 2, and 3 were facing the Reds every series when they were both frontrunning the division.
Just 14Red not understanding modern athletics again. You don't wait till a guy's totally worn out and in a slump to give them time off. You try to prevent that. You can determine a player isn't available for the game for lots of reasons. Even short innings cause a lot of stress and inflammation on the body.That's just it, baseball managers do too much thinking. You put your best players on the field everyday, unless they ask for a day off or they are really struggling. And how can you say that a bullpen arm is "unavailable" before the game starts? You may need them. Look, I know Sims has pitched alot lately, but he's not throwing 30-40 pitches every outing. Heck you may not have an opportunity to use him for 3 days in a row, and then you may need him 3 days in a row. 3 of the last 4 days, he threw 22-18-20 pitches. That's not much.
He struggles against lefties. The person that "hits" lefties is Heineman, but he's not hitting anything right now.Just 14Red not understanding modern athletics again. You don't wait till a guy's totally worn out and in a slump to give them time off. You try to prevent that. You can determine a player isn't available for the game for lots of reasons. Even short innings cause a lot of stress and inflammation on the body.
Ghost, his reasoning was the pitching matchup not the team. Guess Winker had struggles against whoever was throwing that night
I'm just passing along Bell's comments. I'm sure whatever the computer told them is what they did.He struggles against lefties. The person that "hits" lefties is Heineman, but he's not hitting anything right now.
Of course it matters, especially in the context of this discussion.Win/Loss record for a Pitcher is not important. What’s his WHIP, ERA, K/BB?
Garrett has been terrible no doubt but it has only resulted in 2 losses for the team.Garrett is killing them as he has pitched with the game on the line and has been terrible, the bullpen as a whole is obviously bad but Antone and Sims should be the end of game pitchers going forward. Garrett should be sent down to work on his mental outlook or outright released as should Dolittle. These games will hurt when the race comes down to September