Red14
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Love that dude!The security guard with the blonde perm mullet was the star of last night's episodes. Hustled Michael Jordan playing quarters. Incredible.
Love that dude!The security guard with the blonde perm mullet was the star of last night's episodes. Hustled Michael Jordan playing quarters. Incredible.
Can you 8magine 10 years ago LeBron accepting a coach who wanted to take the ball out of his hands more like MJ did when Phil and the triangle came in? Coach like that never woulda been hiredI think LeBron, unless he'd been in a completely different mindset, would really had struggled in past generations. Today's NBA is a players game, more than ever. At least in the 80's and 90's there was some resemblance of coaching and listening to coaching and getting along with teammates. LeBron's biggest flaw is he has to micromanage everything. He does not accept coaching. I truly feel he may have had 2-3 more titles by now if he just was a player.
Yeah apparently nearly half the team didn't like him at the time!MJ- "It wasn't me that kept Isiah Thomas off of the dream team."
Translation- "we all thought he was a d***head."
They should be allowed to voice their opinion, but it shouldn’t be magnified by the media.2 more great eps last night.
I didnt know the stuff on the political side. Can you imagine if that was done/said today I think the media would go nuts, but many folks would not really care, but ESPN would try to make everyone care!
Personally, I don't care to have athletes in the political field. We watch sports to get away from real life, and just hate it when the co-mingle.
..and vice versa.....
I would listen to the political opinion from a guy like David Robinson, who served in the Navy and has a crystal clear reputation. LeBron James? Through no fault of his own, has been a celebrity since he was 12 years old. How does he have any first hand knowledge of what life is really like? He's lived a life of being in gym class everyday, and having a full bank account. Again, it's not his fault, but most pro athletes are thrust into a great financial place early in their 20's. They don't understand paying taxes, looking for a home and staying in budgets.They should be allowed to voice their opinion, but it shouldn’t be magnified by the media.
I would listen to the political opinion from a guy like David Robinson, who served in the Navy and has a crystal clear reputation. LeBron James? Through no fault of his own, has been a celebrity since he was 12 years old. How does he have any first hand knowledge of what life is really like? He's lived a life of being in gym class everyday, and having a full bank account. Again, it's not his fault, but most pro athletes are thrust into a great financial place early in their 20's. They don't understand paying taxes, looking for a home and staying in budgets.
They should be allowed to voice their opinion, but it shouldn’t be magnified by the media.
They absolutely should. Everyone should.That’s my point, they have a right to express their opinions outside of basketball and we can choose to listen or ignore them. I mostly ignore them for the reasons you mentioned. If you hold any type of conservative beliefs, it’s the only way to keep enjoying sports, movies, and music,
He said that he thought people would think that way. But I think we pretty much just agree that to be the best, to have the best team, you need to have someone who just rides you. Many of us have had coaches who were just extremely tough in us, but with it.I kept hearing how this doc was supposed to make Jordan look bad and imo, it’s only built his legacy.
The Bulls had the perfect mix of veterans/ and one alpha. The thing about Jordan though, is he didn't get to be "bully" or leader until later in his career. His first 6-7 years was taking beating, it wasn't until he got the right guys around him. There have been guys who've tried to lead like Jordan, but you have to be the hardest worker, and you have to win. Being like Jordan on a .500 team doesn't do it.It would be funny to see how the today’s media would react to Jordan. I can’t help but think there would be endless articles about him being a “bully” or a bad teammate.
Keeps getting better every week!The closing minutes of episode 7 were incredible, as was the Father's Day championship footage.
Imagine a team today, being ready from game #1 to win every single game? The year they went 72-10 and won the title has to be the best team in history, hands down. Too many teams today are not trying to win every night, tanking or resting guys for the playoffs. Didn't exist back then.I kept hearing how this doc was supposed to make Jordan look bad and imo, it’s only built his legacy.
That’s why so often great players make bad coaches.Imagine a team today, being ready from game #1 to win every single game? The year they went 72-10 and won the title has to be the best team in history, hands down. Too many teams today are not trying to win every night, tanking or resting guys for the playoffs. Didn't exist back then.
And you wonder, with all the struggles Jordan has had as a partial owner and director of basketball operations in Charlotte, that he has a different take on Jerry Krauss now? Say what you want about Krauss, he built that team. Putting together a championship basketball team may be the most difficult in pro sports because everyone has talent, you need guys who's games fit together. Jordan has failed in that as an administrator.
Richie Incognito is taking notesIt would be funny to see how the today’s media would react to Jordan. I can’t help but think there would be endless articles about him being a “bully” or a bad teammate.
I don’t think Jordan ever told a suicidal teammate to kill themselves. He might’ve tried to get them cut or traded but he’d never encourage them to end it.Richie Incognito is taking notes
I dont remember that quote from him back then, but I would not have had a problem with it.In today's digital age there'd inevitably be a breaking exclusive story about Jordan bullying bench warmers like Scott Burrell.
I'm sure the "Republicans buy sneakers, too" quote that was made in jest would have sparked some type of woke moral outrage on Twitter.
I love that quote. Say what you want about Michael, he knew what he was doing and he knew shoes were selling, he could care less about anyone's political views, which is actually good! Mike was great when the camera's were on and he was selling. I think he's very private person and you don't see that side much at all anymore.I dont remember that quote from him back then, but I would not have had a problem with it.
Many businesses and business owners, and Michael Jordan off the court, is business, often do not take public stands on many political issues as to not "offend" the other side.
In instances like this, where a guy makes most of his money endorsing products, I have no problem with them not taking sides, endorsing because well, the other side buys products as well.
Imagine Jordan trying to coach today's players who aren't motivated everyday?That’s why so often great players make bad coaches.
Few episodes ago they showed him in his hotel room and he comments that he cannot go anywhere because of the crowds. He was the beattles, elvis, the monkees and New Kids all rolled into one with fame.I love that quote. Say what you want about Michael, he knew what he was doing and he knew shoes were selling, he could care less about anyone's political views, which is actually good! Mike was great when the camera's were on and he was selling. I think he's very private person and you don't see that side much at all anymore.
Totally agree, the last 2 episodes have been the best so far.The closing minutes of episode 7 were incredible, as was the Father's Day championship footage.
I think the difference is MJ cared about winning as a player, and it pissed him off that Jerry Krause only looked at things through the prism of "what's best for the front office?" Prime example is 1985-86: Krause wanted to tank for a better draft pick at the end and Jordan went against him, played to win instead. Compare that to now: I don't think Michael Jordan cares about his organization winning, let alone achieving any of the heights the pulls accomplished in a given championship season. They're the Detroit Lions of the NBA, almost to a 'T.' It's a bad franchise, it's always been a bad team, it's a bad organization with a bad culture that was founded by a guy who never cared about winning in the first place.Imagine a team today, being ready from game #1 to win every single game? The year they went 72-10 and won the title has to be the best team in history, hands down. Too many teams today are not trying to win every night, tanking or resting guys for the playoffs. Didn't exist back then.
And you wonder, with all the struggles Jordan has had as a partial owner and director of basketball operations in Charlotte, that he has a different take on Jerry Krauss now? Say what you want about Krauss, he built that team. Putting together a championship basketball team may be the most difficult in pro sports because everyone has talent, you need guys who's games fit together. Jordan has failed in that as an administrator.