Summer baseball opportunities in Cincinnati

jdizzle said:
I agree with you 100%, but I will answer...

Money, that's why it isn't done like that. Little Timmy can't be "showcased" in three games, he needs to travel to Nashville for 5 games. :stirthepot:
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Right, and more than likely, Timmy will have to get a partial scholarship to a school in-state. All good, but lets call it what it is. I remember back when tournament directors and coaches had actual day jobs and did it for the love of the game and the kids.
 
I agree that its coaches/parents/kids that need to advocate for them selves more than anything!

IG/X can be great platforms is used correctly and you get to the right people. OBVIOULSY your top 5% kids are getting seen/looked at/talked to eect ect.... but there is LOTS of baseball available at the next level if you want it bad enough
 
BobcatBomber said:
With a kid who plays on a team at THE highest level in the city, you pay PBR for a ranking. The more events you pay for, they higher they will rank you. Trust me, we don't do PBR events, so we constantly see names on these lists of kids who have no business being there except that they "play the showcase game".
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Not sure that the more PBR events you go to, the higher you are ranked. My kid went to five PBR events and didn't get ranked until the last published rankings for his class (#387 in the class of 2020).

Of course, as a dad, I thought that he was way under-ranked. Fast forward to 2023 and he was drafted in the 17th round by the O's. Just finished a very successful first full season as a pro, including playing in the Arizona Fall League.

He did get noticed at a PBR event by the only D2 school (Hillsdale College) that offered him. So though he wasn't ranked high, PBR helped.

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BASESWIMPARENT said:
There are more local boys from SWO that have gone down south than you think and that Midwest Prospect League was not a thing 4 or 5 years ago so maybe that is something new. I have no experience with it. But I do believe that being seen by big time programs is important especially with the transfer portal being open season every year. But we will see moving forward. The sands are literally shifting under our feet right now. Anyway, this is my boy's last year of eligibility. I am hoping he has a successful and enjoyable season
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You would be very wrong. My son was a 2015 HS grad. Played in MPL the summer of 2013 and 2014. They played in multiple locations over the 2 summers (usually 4 weeks per summer). Typical summer was one weekend in Akron/Canton area, 1 in Cincy and 2 at Grand Park.....with a total of 6-8 teams each weekend. No brackets....just 3 scheduled games......rotated each weekend so you weren't playing the same team more than a couple times per summer. The league was invite only....you couldn't just show up like a PBR, Pastime or PG tourney so the coaches knew ahead of time what the talent level would be so it made for a very worthwhile trip. It had more scouts at EVERY game than any one game we ever saw in Nashville (and he was playing for a very good, well known org). There were 40-50+ college at most of the MPL games. I can promise you that the kids on my son's teams got 100% more contact from coaches who saw them in the MPL than they did in Nashville. Also, by the time you are 16 (and for sure 17) you're off the radar for the SEC teams....because their classes are already full at those ages so going to Atlanta isn't a lot of benefit for most kids....unless you happen to play for some smaller org that doesn't get a lot of exposure and you happen to have a great game while the scouts are at your game to WATCH THE OTHER TEAM lol. In the MPL there are coaches there to watch every team in every game. If you have a chance you would be foolish to not get your son in the MPL if at all possible.
 
tcgobucks said:
You would be very wrong. My son was a 2015 HS grad. Played in MPL the summer of 2013 and 2014. They played in multiple locations over the 2 summers (usually 4 weeks per summer). Typical summer was one weekend in Akron/Canton area, 1 in Cincy and 2 at Grand Park.....with a total of 6-8 teams each weekend. No brackets....just 3 scheduled games......rotated each weekend so you weren't playing the same team more than a couple times per summer. The league was invite only....you couldn't just show up like a PBR, Pastime or PG tourney so the coaches knew ahead of time what the talent level would be so it made for a very worthwhile trip. It had more scouts at EVERY game than any one game we ever saw in Nashville (and he was playing for a very good, well known org). There were 40-50+ college at most of the MPL games. I can promise you that the kids on my son's teams got 100% more contact from coaches who saw them in the MPL than they did in Nashville. Also, by the time you are 16 (and for sure 17) you're off the radar for the SEC teams....because their classes are already full at those ages so going to Atlanta isn't a lot of benefit for most kids....unless you happen to play for some smaller org that doesn't get a lot of exposure and you happen to have a great game while the scouts are at your game to WATCH THE OTHER TEAM lol. In the MPL there are coaches there to watch every team in every game. If you have a chance you would be foolish to not get your son in the MPL if at all possible.
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Unless you're throwing 93 or higher, you aren't on any SEC lists as a HS kid anyway. Portal has changed the landscape completely. Even if you get to these schools, your chance of playing are minimal. D1 and especially the P5 schools are recruiting kids who've pitched in college for a year or two. The best way to get to a D1 program is to PLAY for a D2, D3 or even JUCO.
 
tcgobucks said:
You would be very wrong. My son was a 2015 HS grad. Played in MPL the summer of 2013 and 2014. They played in multiple locations over the 2 summers (usually 4 weeks per summer). Typical summer was one weekend in Akron/Canton area, 1 in Cincy and 2 at Grand Park.....with a total of 6-8 teams each weekend. No brackets....just 3 scheduled games......rotated each weekend so you weren't playing the same team more than a couple times per summer. The league was invite only....you couldn't just show up like a PBR, Pastime or PG tourney so the coaches knew ahead of time what the talent level would be so it made for a very worthwhile trip. It had more scouts at EVERY game than any one game we ever saw in Nashville (and he was playing for a very good, well known org). There were 40-50+ college at most of the MPL games. I can promise you that the kids on my son's teams got 100% more contact from coaches who saw them in the MPL than they did in Nashville. Also, by the time you are 16 (and for sure 17) you're off the radar for the SEC teams....because their classes are already full at those ages so going to Atlanta isn't a lot of benefit for most kids....unless you happen to play for some smaller org that doesn't get a lot of exposure and you happen to have a great game while the scouts are at your game to WATCH THE OTHER TEAM lol. In the MPL there are coaches there to watch every team in every game. If you have a chance you would be foolish to not get your son in the MPL if at all possible.
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First, I said I had not heard of it. Still haven't until this email. And yea my kid played for the Midland Redhawks and CBC and nobody there ever talked about it either in 2018, 2019 and 2020. Not saying it isn't legit, just never heard anybody talking about it (and my kid played with guys much better than him). Don't get me wrong, I am glad about it being a local solution. I had a different experience in Nashville and Atlanta was amazing. SEC coaches recruiting everywhere. Finally, the SEC is getting to be a transfer-portal oriented league both in and out. So, catching an eye in Atlanta would be even more helpful for the future.... maybe. Like I said in my last email, baseball recruiting is shifting under our feet. Every season is a discreet entity unto itself. I am wondering if any of these events are worthwhile for high school kids moving forward.
 
BobcatBomber said:
Bottom line: if you want to put your kid in the best position to play in HS and beyond, then find a school/team/coach that lobby for its players. Sure, you can play in every PBR, PG, etc event for 4 years and not get a sniff of interest if your coaches aren't reaching out to talent-appropriate schools. Congrats, you played in some of the biggest tournaments in the country and get nothing for it. Now, get a coach who is sending rosters, lineups, rotations and players to watch and you'll have dozens of scouts there to watch YOUR kid. That's the value of positioning your kid on the right team. Those events are important mostly because you aren't going to get scouts/coaches coming to a local round robin event to watch one or two kids when they can go to Lakepoint, East Cobb, Carey NC, etc and get a saturated talent pool of players to view. And that's where the coaches come in. Scouts are there, but it's up to your coach to direct them to the talent you're bringing. I've watched several kids get offers on the spot from schools at these events. That only happens if they've been appropriately informed BEFORE the event with communication from your coaching staff.
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So, I agree 100% with this with some caveats. My kid was a late bloomer. His seventeen year club coach got him an opportunity with an Illinois community college and after 2 years, the community college coach hooked him up with a D1 in Mississippi. So, connections are absolutely the most important and performance of course. But I do like going to the big tourneys (or even MPL) because one exposure to high level baseball and who knows, you may catch an eye or two. But as far as where to go.. kid has to go where he will play and development. Sitting is a waste of time.
 
BobcatBomber said:
Unless you're throwing 93 or higher, you aren't on any SEC lists as a HS kid anyway. Portal has changed the landscape completely. Even if you get to these schools, your chance of playing are minimal. D1 and especially the P5 schools are recruiting kids who've pitched in college for a year or two. The best way to get to a D1 program is to PLAY for a D2, D3 or even JUCO.
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I will say this. If you are a senior in high school consistently throwing over 93 at 17 or 18, Go pro and take the money and signing bonus before you get that surgery
 
BASESWIMPARENT said:
I will say this. If you are a senior in high school consistently throwing over 93 at 17 or 18, Go pro and take the money and signing bonus before you get that surgery
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Zion touched 100mph last season as a junior and he's going to LSU. 5 or 10 years ago yes, enter the draft. Now, take your NIL money so you can afford minor league life for a few years.
 
tcgobucks said:
You would be very wrong. My son was a 2015 HS grad. Played in MPL the summer of 2013 and 2014. They played in multiple locations over the 2 summers (usually 4 weeks per summer). Typical summer was one weekend in Akron/Canton area, 1 in Cincy and 2 at Grand Park.....with a total of 6-8 teams each weekend. No brackets....just 3 scheduled games......rotated each weekend so you weren't playing the same team more than a couple times per summer. The league was invite only....you couldn't just show up like a PBR, Pastime or PG tourney so the coaches knew ahead of time what the talent level would be so it made for a very worthwhile trip. It had more scouts at EVERY game than any one game we ever saw in Nashville (and he was playing for a very good, well known org). There were 40-50+ college at most of the MPL games. I can promise you that the kids on my son's teams got 100% more contact from coaches who saw them in the MPL than they did in Nashville. Also, by the time you are 16 (and for sure 17) you're off the radar for the SEC teams....because their classes are already full at those ages so going to Atlanta isn't a lot of benefit for most kids....unless you happen to play for some smaller org that doesn't get a lot of exposure and you happen to have a great game while the scouts are at your game to WATCH THE OTHER TEAM lol. In the MPL there are coaches there to watch every team in every game. If you have a chance you would be foolish to not get your son in the MPL if at all possible.
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i likey this guy and this post

since then mpl has blown up. the original teams that founded the MPL in 2006 were Cincy Flames, Ohio Elite, Kentucky Baseball Club, Indiana Bulls, and Illinois Sparks. still very hard to get the invite. but with the recent addition of the kokomo complex not all games are played at grandpark. nonetheless great round robin event.

nashville turnys are to keep the parents happy so they can all go party on broadway;)🤣🤣
 
BobcatBomber said:
Zion touched 100mph last season as a junior and he's going to LSU. 5 or 10 years ago yes, enter the draft. Now, take your NIL money so you can afford minor league life for a few years.
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I am not saying he won't, but NIL cannot compete with a 1st round signing bonus and college coaches do not care about a kid's arm health. they just don't.
 
So i was just checking on teams registered for some of our summer tourneys this year and noticed flames Events are back to being PG events as well?
 
93 red ls said:
well since end of last year Flames has been promoting Prospect Select.

now they are out and its back to Perfect Game.
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For the most part I've enjoyed the PG tournaments. Local and non-local tournament directors have been good, fields mostly good, and competition great. Don't really like Pasttime and doubt we will do any more outside of a one off or something over the years.
 
93 red ls said:
So i was just checking on teams registered for some of our summer tourneys this year and noticed flames Events are back to being PG events as well?
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Flames tourneys are nothing but a money grab to fund the Flames teams. Scheduling is horrendous for the most part. We had a game an hour and 15 minutes EAST of the hotel at 8:00 AM then a 2PM game an hour + WEST of the hotel. They are using high schools as far away as St Henry.....100 miles north of the Cincinnati outerbelt. That's beyond ridiculous.
 
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