Unsurprising given what weights they have been wrestling, but a shame as imo an ideal lineup has one of them making 106. If neither one is it’s going to be hard to fit Whitely, Schork, Mazur, and Timar into the lineup.
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Oh wow, so LaSalle for D1 next season confirmed?
Butler has always cut a lot of weight but now Brown and Bennett are gone I could see him making a big jump- and to avoid Blaze who needs no explanation.
Even if Butler & Huhn are at the same weight class, which may not even happen I’d think it’d be a very close match on paper. Thomas has always had smaller Millers number, would like to see him get some payback in their senior season.
snapspinscore
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Wonder if Schork reconsiders coming to Ed’s now. That’s quite a log jam if he can’t make 106. Could be a log jam for a few years.
Brownsfan19
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Competition makes one better. A lot of state champs had to wrestle green before being on gold. Also, a lot of kids go there for more than just wrestling.
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EastsideCat
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A rich tradition of academic excellence, state championships in about every sport imaginable, conveniently located in Lakewood, a powerful and deep pocketed alumni base. It would have been a good fallback if I had not gotten into Iggy. JK I meant all though compliments
I would be surprised if they petition to D1. They have not done that in other sports and they have a chance at being the first Cincinnati team to win a state wrestling team title if they are in D2.
GrizzlyDad
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I know for a fact they are, they would lose guys if they don’t go D1.
Insidetrip73
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The cream will rise to the top, but the thing is some Dad's think winning a JH State title in a weak weight class makes them a 4x er in HS.....The real blue chippers are rare, those becoming 3 and 4 x'ers with Ironman titles. Beating the best PA , Oklahoma, NJ has to offer in national tournaments before reaching HS, those BLUE chippers will never NOT START and they will as freshman 9 out of 10 times, at St Eds . Others who star as freshman are nearly as elite.....and their resume when graduating will show that. Bottom line all these names you mentioned will not be 3-4 x'ers , and wouldn't be whether they all started as freshman or not.
and mylnarczyk and leonard
There are no weak JH state titles. You could make a case for winning a JH title is harder than winning a high school title.
But i get what you are trying to say.
It’s absolutely harder to win a JH title, ask Tomasello.
Warriorviking
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Did Tomasello not win a junior high title?
Who cares Jr High Titles don’t mean anything in the grand scope, especially when you win 4 High School State Titles
Mr.wrsln2
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pretty sure a couple...jared cortez might have got him one year.lol
5th when he was in 7th grade, and 2nd when he was in 8th grade.
eaglepride
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He is at Ed's and doing very well in the wrestling room.
A few things stand out just based off of Boro's rankings......
Look like Mazur who was ranked in the top 3 all of last season but had a poor state tourney may be the odd man out in the lower weights.
Goldberg at #1 157 is surprising in an overall "weaker" weight. Might expect some guys to bump up eventually.
Peterson/Eaton both at 165. Does Eaton even wrestle or just concentrate on football if he isn't assured a starting spot?
No Nate Gregory at HVY. (Football scholly) would figured he'd be ranked in the top 5. Henderson current man ranked at 17.
Excited to see how things play out.
Look like Mazur who was ranked in the top 3 all of last season but had a poor state tourney may be the odd man out in the lower weights.
Goldberg at #1 157 is surprising in an overall "weaker" weight. Might expect some guys to bump up eventually.
Peterson/Eaton both at 165. Does Eaton even wrestle or just concentrate on football if he isn't assured a starting spot?
No Nate Gregory at HVY. (Football scholly) would figured he'd be ranked in the top 5. Henderson current man ranked at 17.
Excited to see how things play out.
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I don't have a dog in this race, I have two kids that wrestle in D3, clearly different talent pool top to bottom. I respect Ed's and any other top program public or private. My youngest has wrestled with and against several Ed's kids over the years and always happy to do so, but to address the JH vs. HS. comments, I will say this. I don't know if winning a JH state title is harder, but I can appreciate that line of thinking for the simple fact that there are no school divisions and everyone is lumped together. Captain obvious statement there but I can understand the thinking. As kids grow, mature and enter their HS programs, many things change.
I'm sure there are numerous examples of kids never winning a JH title or even placing and turning into very high-level wrestlers. My oldest never placed in OAC JH, wrestles more or less as a benefit to football, clearly a secondary sport for him and is a SQ in high school, should wind up a placer for couple years albeit D3. Youngest has placed every year, winning one GS and 5th and runner up for JH. What they will accomplish in HS, who knows, I guess my point is clearly a ton of value in the experience of wrestling at a young age, doing national/travel tournaments, but success at the younger levels definitely is not a prerequisite to success in HS and beyond. I have two examples within my own household that have had very different paths and it will be fun to see what the final outcomes are for them and many other kids that I have seen grown up in the sport from our area and state.
And for what it's worth, it's great to see kids still balancing two or three sports even at a program like Ed's, proof that kids can still be kids and not give in to the pressure of having to specialize and still be great in more than one sport. That's not a shot at the kids that want to focus on one sport by any means, just good to see multi-sport kids at high level big schools, proof that it can still be done.
Underthehook
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I've heard that Peterson may go 215, due to not being able to get down to 165. Have also been hearing that Schork will not be going 106, as some of the coaches at Fargo said he barely made 113.
Brownsfan19
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My guess is a wrestle off at 215. Peterson vs Waugh. Lineup is better if mazur did 132 and manns did 138. That's the only spot available for mazur as well
It certainly seems like the St. Eds lineup is still all overt he place.
Id think who ever loses between Peterson/Waugh would just move up to HVY as it is probably an improvement if Gregory does not wrestle.
157 an overall "weaker" weight???? Borofan has it
1. Jared Goldberg (St. Edward) Senior
2. Zachary Aquila (Brecksville) Sophomore
3. Eli Esguerra (Dublin Coffman) Sophomore
4. Brennan Warwick (Massillon Perry) Junior
not necessarily weak in most wrestlers eyes, also notices Driscoll is number 5 in sophomore class and Boro doesn't have him in line up , one would assume he will crack it
mailman112
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Very unlikely Peterson will go 15. 6/13 will be interesting but I believe both incoming Freshman will be in the line up. Manns, Mazur and Kiehl will settle 32/38. I think you will see Eaton (assuming he is healthy) come Jan. Henderson will be at hwy for now. I believe come Feb we may see a new hwy. Nice to be talking wrestling. Time will tell who ends up where.
Driscoll at 165 if Eaton doesn't wrestle. He will at least hold it down until January when/if Eaton comes back from football.
mailman112
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Agreed
DoubleBoots
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Doubtful. I would guess Driscoll at 150.
mailman112
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Driscoll will not be able to make 50. 65/75
Underthehook
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Just talked to Driscoll the other day, he is pretty adamant on going 150 and is only weighing 155-160.