Scoring concern in Wrestling Tournaments

bgrafflin

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To Wrestling Tournament Managers, Coaches, Fans, and anyone involved with wrestling tournaments.

Just a few comments before we get into the OHSAA post season wrestling tournaments. Most Sectional tournaments are going to be a one-day tournament using a 16-team bracket. Most tournaments will be using a computer to set up the tournament -- entries, seeding, brackets, scoring, results, etc. For obvious reasons, before the 1980’s, most wrestling tournaments were run and scored by paper and pencil. Fortunately, that all changed with the advent of the personal computer. The more common computer programs are The Wrestling Tourney, Track Wrestling, Sikora Soft System, and Baumspage Mobile Wrestling Manager.

A word of caution here. Scoring a tournament is highly important, not only to the wrestlers involved, but also the teams they represent. I have used The Wrestling Tourney, Baumspage Mobile Wrestling Manager, and its predecessor when it was written in BASIC programming. Those programs were absolutely accurate in scoring our tournaments. I have no experience with Track Wrestling or Sikora Soft programs. I checked (on the Internet) a Sikora Soft run tournament and it appeared to score the tournament accurately. Using a 16-team bracket for that tournament, when there were 8 or less wrestlers in a weight class, the bracket was set up as an 8-team bracket and scored as such. That’s as it should be.

Now comes the Track Wrestling computer program. I have seen a tournament (again, on the Internet) that used a 16-team bracket and had only two wrestlers in a particular weight class. It was scored as if the winner had 3 Byes (6 points) and also received 1st place points (the regular 16 points). By NFHS rules adopted by the OHSAA, that should have been only a 2-team bracket with no Bye points. There were other scoring errors when there were 8 or fewer wrestlers in a weight class on a 16-team bracket. Those should have been scored as an 8 (or even a 4-team bracket if appropriate). Fewer Byes and fewer Bye points.

My suggestion is, to those tournaments that insist on using the Track Wrestling program, please also score your tournament “by hand” using the NFHS and OHSAA regulations for number of Byes in a bracket. Make it right for the wrestlers and teams involved.

A little of my background: I have been managing and scoring Junior High and High School Individual wrestling tournaments since 1969. I have managed and scored Sectional tournaments, and scored District and State tournaments, and I am still scoring a Sectional tournament. In all of these years, I have made mistakes in scoring (not many, but one mistake is too many), but have also gone back and corrected them.
 
 
If using track, just change the bracket type for each weight class. If there are 5-8 use an 8 man bracket. Sounds like a meet manager problem, not a track problem.
Agree. I used Track in 2022. It was the first time I hosted a tournament, as prior to that I had only ever hosted duals, tri's, and dual tournaments. It was relatively straightforward, and the settings for team scoring can be set to whatever is needed.
 
Thank you for your comments. You are correct, the manager should have used a smaller bracket. However, there are still problems with scoring with 5 or 6 wrestlers in an 8-wrestler bracket. The 1 or 2 losers in their first Championship match move to the 1st Consolation bracket (with 4 lines), and would not wrestle. They would be placed on the 2nd Consolation bracket. There would be no matches in that 1st Consolation, but the Track program would award those as 1 point Byes. That is giving their team points that they have not earned.

Here is what the NFHS rule is and adopted by the OHSAA:

NFHS Rule 9-2 ART. 3


a. Two team advancement points shall be scored for each match won in the championship bracket, except for the first-place match. A wrestler who receives a bye in a round where at least one match is wrestled shall be awarded two advancement points by winning the next match. No points are awarded for the bye if the wrestler loses the next match;

b. One team advancement point shall be scored for each match won in the consolation elimination, except for the final third-, fifth- and seventh-place matches. A wrestler who receives a bye in a round where at least one match is wrestled shall receive one advancement point, provided the wrestler wins the next round match.


Again my concern is, if the Track Wrestling program is used, have someone knowledgeable check the scoring “by hand”.
 
Here's my concern for scoring tournaments and I know it will be unpopular. If my tournament is a 16 team tournament every weight class should use a 16 man bracket and every advancement (byes or wins) should score points regardless of how many wrestlers are actually entered at the weight. By not giving the same amount of points for advancement for the smaller weight classes filled with byes as we do for the full ones we're unfairly punishing the teams that actually bring full lineups and rewarding the ones that don't. That's backwards. Even if a weight class only has 3 kids in it and one of them goes 0-2 they're still a better wrestler than the 13 other non-existent wrestlers that the other teams had the opportunity to bring into the field but didn't
 
Here's my concern for scoring tournaments and I know it will be unpopular. If my tournament is a 16 team tournament every weight class should use a 16 man bracket and every advancement (byes or wins) should score points regardless of how many wrestlers are actually entered at the weight. By not giving the same amount of points for advancement for the smaller weight classes filled with byes as we do for the full ones we're unfairly punishing the teams that actually bring full lineups and rewarding the ones that don't. That's backwards. Even if a weight class only has 3 kids in it and one of them goes 0-2 they're still a better wrestler than the 13 other non-existent wrestlers that the other teams had the opportunity to bring into the field but didn't
I understand what you are saying about the weight class that has only 3 wrestlers in it, but don’t agree with the 0-2 wrestler getting 3 team points for Byes. As it stands, he will get 3rd place Team Points. That’s 9 points he has earned by making weight and participating, which is better than 13 others that did not get in that bracket for whatever reason. If that weight class used a 4-wrestler bracket, the 0-2 wrestler would still get the 9 Team Points.
I have to work within the rules and regulations of the NFHS and OHSAA when it states: A wrestler who receives a bye in a round where at least one match is wrestled shall receive one advancement point, provided the wrestler wins the next round match.
 
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I have to work within the rules and regulations of the NFHS and OHSAA when it states: A wrestler who receives a bye in a round where at least one match is wrestled shall receive one advancement point, provided the wrestler wins the next round match.
Yeah, my complaint isn't with the actual scoring it's the rules we use to determine the scoring. I feel the current system doesn't adequately reward teams that field a full lineup
 
I have went to a placement points only format at some tournaments because it is kind of unfair if my best wrestler is in a 3-man and not 6 man pool. I get penalized for other teams not having wrestlers for my guy to pin.
 
Thank you for your comments. You are correct, the manager should have used a smaller bracket. However, there are still problems with scoring with 5 or 6 wrestlers in an 8-wrestler bracket. The 1 or 2 losers in their first Championship match move to the 1st Consolation bracket (with 4 lines), and would not wrestle. They would be placed on the 2nd Consolation bracket. There would be no matches in that 1st Consolation, but the Track program would award those as 1 point Byes. That is giving their team points that they have not earned.

Here is what the NFHS rule is and adopted by the OHSAA:

NFHS Rule 9-2 ART. 3


a. Two team advancement points shall be scored for each match won in the championship bracket, except for the first-place match. A wrestler who receives a bye in a round where at least one match is wrestled shall be awarded two advancement points by winning the next match. No points are awarded for the bye if the wrestler loses the next match;

b. One team advancement point shall be scored for each match won in the consolation elimination, except for the final third-, fifth- and seventh-place matches. A wrestler who receives a bye in a round where at least one match is wrestled shall receive one advancement point, provided the wrestler wins the next round match.


Again my concern is, if the Track Wrestling program is used, have someone knowledgeable check the scoring “by hand”.

Just because there isn't a match in an 8 man weight in round 1 doesn't mean they don't get bye points for round 1 if they win their next match. The rule is saying if there are ANY round 1 matches in any weight. The rule does not say "a round where at least one match is wrestled in that particular weight class". It says "a round where at least one match is wrestled". A ROUND consists of all the matches in each weight class for that round.
 
Just because there isn't a match in an 8 man weight in round 1 doesn't mean they don't get bye points for round 1 if they win their next match. The rule is saying if there are ANY round 1 matches in any weight. The rule does not say "a round where at least one match is wrestled in that particular weight class". It says "a round where at least one match is wrestled". A ROUND consists of all the matches in each weight class for that round.
From what others have said about the bracket sizes in TrackWrestling, if there are no matches in an 8-wrestler bracket, then it really should be a 4-wrestler bracket (or in my original example, a 2-wrestler bracket). In my original example, and by the NFHS Rules below, there should be NO Bye points with a 2-wrestler bracket.

2023-24 NFHS WRESTLING RULES BOOK

Page 51 2023-24 NFHS Wrestling Rules Rule 9-2
ART. 3
. . . In tournaments, individual placement points shall be awarded as soon as earned. Placement points already earned shall be deducted in case of forfeit (other than injury) or disqualification from the tournament. Points for team scoring shall be awarded as follows:
a. Two team advancement points shall be scored for each match won in the championship bracket, except for the first-place match. A wrestler who receives a bye in a round where at least one match is wrestled shall be awarded two advancement points by winning the next match. No
points are awarded for the bye if the wrestler loses the next match;
b. One team advancement point shall be scored for each match won in the consolation elimination, except for the final third-, fifth- and seventh-place matches. A wrestler who receives a bye in a round where at least one match is wrestled shall receive one advancement point, provided
the wrestler wins the next round match.

Rule 10-3 2023-24 NFHS Wrestling Rules Page 54
SECTION 3 TOURNAMENT BRACKETS
ART. 1
. . . When the number of competitors is not a power of 2, that is 4, 8, 16, 32 and 64, there shall be byes in the first round. The number of byes shall be equal to the difference between the number of competitors and the next higher power of two.
ART. 2 . . . There shall be no byes after the first round of competition in both the championship and consolation brackets, and no further drawing is necessary for championship or consolation rounds.
ART. 3 . . . When byes are required for the first round, individuals receiving byes shall be placed by mutual consent or drawn so they are distributed evenly throughout the bracket.
ART. 4 . . . No quarter-bracket or half-bracket shall have more than one bye in excess of its paired bracket.
 
There are no bye points after the first round of the tournament (both champ and conso) and no bye points given in a finals match because there are no advancement points scored in finals matches. A 4 man weight should give 2 bye points to each semi final winner going back to the round of 16 (assuming there was at least one 16 man weight in the tournament). No bye point for the round of 8 or semis.

The most bye points anyone can get in an event is 2...first round championship bye with a 2nd round win. You can also get 1 for a conso round 1 win if you win conso round 2. No one can get a round 1 bye and wrestle in conso round 1 so 2 is the maximum.
 
Thank you for your comments. You are correct, the manager should have used a smaller bracket. However, there are still problems with scoring with 5 or 6 wrestlers in an 8-wrestler bracket. The 1 or 2 losers in their first Championship match move to the 1st Consolation bracket (with 4 lines), and would not wrestle. They would be placed on the 2nd Consolation bracket. There would be no matches in that 1st Consolation, but the Track program would award those as 1 point Byes. That is giving their team points that they have not earned.

Here is what the NFHS rule is and adopted by the OHSAA:

NFHS Rule 9-2 ART. 3


a. Two team advancement points shall be scored for each match won in the championship bracket, except for the first-place match. A wrestler who receives a bye in a round where at least one match is wrestled shall be awarded two advancement points by winning the next match. No points are awarded for the bye if the wrestler loses the next match;

b. One team advancement point shall be scored for each match won in the consolation elimination, except for the final third-, fifth- and seventh-place matches. A wrestler who receives a bye in a round where at least one match is wrestled shall receive one advancement point, provided the wrestler wins the next round match.


Again my concern is, if the Track Wrestling program is used, have someone knowledgeable check the scoring “by hand”.
That is not correct. You do not receive points for a bye unless you win. I could have 2 byes then lose and receive 0 points on the back end.
 
I think the massive confusion on how points are awarded is emblematic of the bigger problem with tournament scoring. Here's how to easily fix it and make scoring representative of the entire team's contributions

1. The entire tournament runs the same size bracket regardless of how many entries are at each weight

2. Advancement via bye awards the maximum amount of points regardless of how many byes you get or how many wins you get

3. Tournaments should standardize amount of placements (and points) based on bracket size used


And there you have it, an incredibly easy to understand system that presents an entirely level field to every team participating in the tournament
 
I think the massive confusion on how points are awarded is emblematic of the bigger problem with tournament scoring. Here's how to easily fix it and make scoring representative of the entire team's contributions

1. The entire tournament runs the same size bracket regardless of how many entries are at each weight

2. Advancement via bye awards the maximum amount of points regardless of how many byes you get or how many wins you get

3. Tournaments should standardize amount of placements (and points) based on bracket size used


And there you have it, an incredibly easy to understand system that presents an entirely level field to every team participating in the tournament

1. They already do. The reason it looks like they don't is because all the programs have an option to not print or show the byes. In a 16 team tournament some weights show as 16, some as 8 depending on how many kids are entered. That does not mean the 8 man weight isn't a 16 man bracket, it just has the byes advanced already.

2. Bye points aren't awarded after the first round because not every weight has the possibility of that happening. You can't continue to award wrestlers for NOT wrestling. Awarding for 1 bye is in place to override the "luck of the draw" situation. Beyond that is excessive.

3. They are standardized. The programs discussed don't give you the options to only score 4 places in one weight, 6 or 8 in others. Just because there may not be enough wrestlers in a weight class to earn all the place spots doesn't mean its not standard across the tournament.
 
1. They already do. The reason it looks like they don't is because all the programs have an option to not print or show the byes. In a 16 team tournament some weights show as 16, some as 8 depending on how many kids are entered. That does not mean the 8 man weight isn't a 16 man bracket, it just has the byes advanced already.

2. Bye points aren't awarded after the first round because not every weight has the possibility of that happening. You can't continue to award wrestlers for NOT wrestling. Awarding for 1 bye is in place to override the "luck of the draw" situation. Beyond that is excessive.

3. They are standardized. The programs discussed don't give you the options to only score 4 places in one weight, 6 or 8 in others. Just because there may not be enough wrestlers in a weight class to earn all the place spots doesn't mean its not standard across the tournament.
They don't all use the same size brackets, there are plenty of tournaments that will redraw weights based on entrants and some will even convert smaller weight to pools while others remain traditional brackets.

Giving maximum advancement points doesn't "award wrestlers for not wrestling" it punishes the teams that did not enter a wrestler at a given weight. It also rewards the higher seeded wrestlers who may receive a bye in the first round and miss out on potential bonus points in the current system

Placement points are not standardized, some will place out to 6 but only award for 4, some will place to 8 and score all 8, and some will even award an odd number 5/7. It's all over the map and wildly inconsistent
 
They don't all use the same size brackets, there are plenty of tournaments that will redraw weights based on entrants and some will even convert smaller weight to pools while others remain traditional brackets.

Giving maximum advancement points doesn't "award wrestlers for not wrestling" it punishes the teams that did not enter a wrestler at a given weight. It also rewards the higher seeded wrestlers who may receive a bye in the first round and miss out on potential bonus points in the current system

Placement points are not standardized, some will place out to 6 but only award for 4, some will place to 8 and score all 8, and some will even award an odd number 5/7. It's all over the map and wildly inconsistent
Placing 6 but awarding 4 does not in any way affect the team scores. That just means the school didn't want to buy medals for 5th and 6th. How many you give awards to is irrelevant. That doesn't mean the kids who don't get awards aren't scoring. With these programs, if the match is on the bracket it scores.

The programs that this thread is about don't do that for bracket tournaments. At least not that I have ever seen. TWT and Baums don't even have that capacity. Not sure if Track does but I have never seen it. I've only ever seen one school use Sikora Soft and personally did not like the program at all and wouldn't put it on the same level as the other 3 (not a big fan of Track either...just takes too much to navigate in my opinion).

Punishing teams for not having full rosters is ridiculous. We should be celebrating teams that are trying to promote and advance the sport. Not every school is built the same way and with the increase in pay-to-play over the years it is very difficult to fill weights for some schools.

The worry is tournaments that DON'T use these programs. Hand drawn events are where you will find the mistakes, especially in team scoring.
 
Placing 6 but awarding 4 does not in any way affect the team scores. That just means the school didn't want to buy medals for 5th and 6th. How many you give awards to is irrelevant. That doesn't mean the kids who don't get awards aren't scoring. With these programs, if the match is on the bracket it scores.

The programs that this thread is about don't do that for bracket tournaments. At least not that I have ever seen. TWT and Baums don't even have that capacity. Not sure if Track does but I have never seen it. I've only ever seen one school use Sikora Soft and personally did not like the program at all and wouldn't put it on the same level as the other 3 (not a big fan of Track either...just takes too much to navigate in my opinion).

Punishing teams for not having full rosters is ridiculous. We should be celebrating teams that are trying to promote and advance the sport. Not every school is built the same way and with the increase in pay-to-play over the years it is very difficult to fill weights for some schools.

The worry is tournaments that DON'T use these programs. Hand drawn events are where you will find the mistakes, especially in team scoring.
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Here's a prime example coming from Baumspage, different sized pools, different amount of pools, different sized brackets, all one tournament. No uniform structure to any of it and a totally different set of rules each weight had to work with
 
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Here's a prime example coming from Baumspage, different sized pools, different amount of pools, different sized brackets, all one tournament. No uniform structure to any of it and a totally different set of rules each weight had to work with


The thread is about bracket tournaments. What you posted is a pool to bracket tournament which makes it irrelevant to the discussion. No one disputes that pool tournaments are chaos.

With that being said...all weights in those pool tournaments do use the same set of rules. Pool tournaments are run this way typically to maximize the amount of matches wrestlers can get at the event. There is no reason to put 6 wrestlers in 2 pools of 5 with 2 byes each and then get 1 finals match for a total of 3 matches each when you can go one pool of 6 with 5 matches each. The almighty team score is secondary in these events so that wrestlers can have more mat time.
 
In my original discussion, I was concerned with the Team Scoring in the OHSAA post season wrestling tournaments. There have been some really good comments about scoring in wrestling, and discussion of different types of tournaments (bracket and pool). Let me clarify a few things here. No matter what software is used to score the post season tournaments (Sectional Boys and Pre-Regional Girls), if the table scorer for a match, circles or clicks on the correct winner, they will advance in their bracket. In most cases, the top four in each weight class will move on to the next tournament, and a fifth-place wrestler is an alternate if needed. I am confident that Track Wrestling, Baumspage Mobile App, and The Wrestling Tourney programs will all get that part right.

Since, at that first post season level, there are no awards given, some people don’t worry about Team Points earned, and if they are correct or not. (This could start another discussion on awards, but not here and not now.) My understanding is that the folks at Track Wrestling have known that their software program does not handle Byes in accordance with the rules of NFHS and adopted by the OHSAA, but have not fixed the programming errors. I’ve heard that they are going to look at that after the tournament season is over. That does not help the errors that will occur in the Track Wrestling used tournaments this year. To illustrate the problem with team points, in the eleven 2023 Boys Sectionals that used Track Wrestling, there were 427 team point scoring errors, and in the three Girls Regionals that used Track Wrestling there were 70 team point scoring errors. That’s 497 team points that were wrong because of the way the Bye points were counted.

To summarize this topic, in the OHSAA post season wrestling tournaments (Boys and Girls), the right wrestlers will move on to the next level, no matter what software program is used. The Team Points will probably not be correct in the tournaments where the Track Wrestling program will be used – until they recognize we are following the NFHS rules for scoring and fix their software program.
 
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The thread is about bracket tournaments. What you posted is a pool to bracket tournament which makes it irrelevant to the discussion. No one disputes that pool tournaments are chaos.

With that being said...all weights in those pool tournaments do use the same set of rules. Pool tournaments are run this way typically to maximize the amount of matches wrestlers can get at the event. There is no reason to put 6 wrestlers in 2 pools of 5 with 2 byes each and then get 1 finals match for a total of 3 matches each when you can go one pool of 6 with 5 matches each. The almighty team score is secondary in these events so that wrestlers can have more mat time.
Well said rr23724. Pool tournaments are great at the beginning of the season for the very reason you mentioned - more matches/mat time.
 
Well said rr23724. Pool tournaments are great at the beginning of the season for the very reason you mentioned - more matches/mat time.
To be frank, why does it really matter ? I understand
To Wrestling Tournament Managers, Coaches, Fans, and anyone involved with wrestling tournaments.

Just a few comments before we get into the OHSAA post season wrestling tournaments. Most Sectional tournaments are going to be a one-day tournament using a 16-team bracket. Most tournaments will be using a computer to set up the tournament -- entries, seeding, brackets, scoring, results, etc. For obvious reasons, before the 1980’s, most wrestling tournaments were run and scored by paper and pencil. Fortunately, that all changed with the advent of the personal computer. The more common computer programs are The Wrestling Tourney, Track Wrestling, Sikora Soft System, and Baumspage Mobile Wrestling Manager.

A word of caution here. Scoring a tournament is highly important, not only to the wrestlers involved, but also the teams they represent. I have used The Wrestling Tourney, Baumspage Mobile Wrestling Manager, and its predecessor when it was written in BASIC programming. Those programs were absolutely accurate in scoring our tournaments. I have no experience with Track Wrestling or Sikora Soft programs. I checked (on the Internet) a Sikora Soft run tournament and it appeared to score the tournament accurately. Using a 16-team bracket for that tournament, when there were 8 or less wrestlers in a weight class, the bracket was set up as an 8-team bracket and scored as such. That’s as it should be.

Now comes the Track Wrestling computer program. I have seen a tournament (again, on the Internet) that used a 16-team bracket and had only two wrestlers in a particular weight class. It was scored as if the winner had 3 Byes (6 points) and also received 1st place points (the regular 16 points). By NFHS rules adopted by the OHSAA, that should have been only a 2-team bracket with no Bye points. There were other scoring errors when there were 8 or fewer wrestlers in a weight class on a 16-team bracket. Those should have been scored as an 8 (or even a 4-team bracket if appropriate). Fewer Byes and fewer Bye points.

My suggestion is, to those tournaments that insist on using the Track Wrestling program, please also score your tournament “by hand” using the NFHS and OHSAA regulations for number of Byes in a bracket. Make it right for the wrestlers and teams involved.

A little of my background: I have been managing and scoring Junior High and High School Individual wrestling tournaments since 1969. I have managed and scored Sectional tournaments, and scored District and State tournaments, and I am still scoring a Sectional tournament. In all of these years, I have made mistakes in scoring (not many, but one mistake is too many), but have also gone back and corrected them.
I think any system you use, you need to know the system, im believe even in track, you can make those adjustments as the manager of the tournament, I remember early with Baumspage, it would not adjust brackets correctly at times with byes and had the manager of the tournament had to catch it. Remember also, humans input the results, mistakes are made that way regardless what system you are using... I agree with your point double check with human eyes also but I would not just do with with Track, i would do that with any system
 
To be frank, why does it really matter ? I understand

I think any system you use, you need to know the system, im believe even in track, you can make those adjustments as the manager of the tournament, I remember early with Baumspage, it would not adjust brackets correctly at times with byes and had the manager of the tournament had to catch it. Remember also, humans input the results, mistakes are made that way regardless what system you are using... I agree with your point double check with human eyes also but I would not just do with with Track, i would do that with any system
Really, my main point has been to the users of Track Wrestling program, if there are Byes in the bracket (and specifically no matches in a round) of the post season tournament (or any tournament), there will be mistakes in scoring. Yes, the manager can make the needed adjustments, but that shouldn't have to happen if the program got fixed. The Boys Sectional tournaments are on February 24th, and the Girls Pre-Regional tournaments are on February 23rd and 25th. I would think that should be enough time for the programmers at Track Wrestling to make it right.
 
Just because there isn't a match in an 8 man weight in round 1 doesn't mean they don't get bye points for round 1 if they win their next match. The rule is saying if there are ANY round 1 matches in any weight. The rule does not say "a round where at least one match is wrestled in that particular weight class". It says "a round where at least one match is wrestled". A ROUND consists of all the matches in each weight class for that round.

bgrafflin is correct. There are errors in the scoring. Look at 2023 Centerville Sectional where the Beavercreek 106 scored 25 team points instead of 23 team points.
 
I personally can't stand Track. It is so clunky and time consuming to navigate. I have always been a fan of The Wrestling Tourney and once Baumspage could do pool tournaments and print out an actual pool instead of just a match list they had me too.
 
Okay folks, we are into a new Wrestling season and I hope everyone stays healthy and there are no injuries. Since we started this Forum talking about scoring in tournaments, there have been some really good comments. Thank you for your opinions. The biggest observation we made last year was scoring discrepancies when tournaments used the Trackwrestling software. Full disclosure, I have NO experience using their program to run tournaments. I will share with you already in the short time this year there have been some serious errors in team scoring when using the Trackwrestling program. These errors mainly occur with awarding of Bye points, and usually in the Consolation bracket.

I'm not saying Do Not use Trackwrestling software, but I am saying be aware of the team scoring errors that will happen. Most of the previous comments have said that the tournament manager can make the team point adjustments to make everything correct. Having run a lot of tournaments, when it gets down to the end of the tournament and you're trying to get everything correct for Individual and Team awards, that's a lot of pressure on a manager in a short amount of time. Wouldn't it be more reasonable to have the software fixed so Bye points are awarded correctly as per NFHS Wrestling Rules?
 
My concerns are gone! I just heard that the folks at TrackWrestling have added another option to scoring the Advancement Points in their program. Their recent option is to select "Award advancement points to a wrestler ONLY if a match is wrestled in the round and if he/she wins their next match."
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This follows NFHS rules for Wrestling which have been adopted by the OHSAA. This option has been tried in some sample brackets, and appears to work correctly. We thank the Support Staff at TrackWrestling for getting this option added to their program, and we thank the Tournament Managers that have been using the program and have tested the “fix”.

Tournament managers please note: Although it is the NFHS Rule, TrackWrestling has not yet made it the default setting. You will need to go to the Advancement Points screen and select that option.
 
All brackets have to be the same at a sectional to make scoring fair. If there are 16 kids in 13 weights, and 1 weight class has 17, every bracket has to be a 32 man bracket.
 
You are correct -- in most computer scoring programs, they will be the same size, and in your example they will be a 32 team bracket. Trackwrestling software will finally handle the Bye points correctly (NFHS rule) -- if the correct option is chosen, as will the other software programs available.
Please keep in mind that a 32 member bracket with only three wrestlers in a weight class should be scored the same as a 4 member bracket. There should not be a "bunch" of Bye points.
 
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