Richmond Heights Post Season Option

nwwarrior09

nwwarrior09

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Lot of major rear end kickings coming in the postseason. Just glanced at their schedule, and saw Richmond Heights has a handful of wins against above average to good D1 teams along with Lutheran East, Harvest Prep, etc.

These guys probably would have competed for a district championship and perhaps made a regional this year if they were D1. They should ought to run over everyone in D4 and probably won't see anyone with any chance of somewhat competing until the state tournament.
 
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ColumbusCatholic

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winbypin said:
Kind of a dumb question. If OHSAA did that nobody would have the authority to stop them.

I don't know any Richmond Heights players so I can't speak to if they would accept the challenge to a D2 tournament? But why stop there? Why not all the way to D1 or maybe even NCAA D3?

How do you define a "true" D4 team?
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Kind of a dumb question? Before you come guns blazing calling questions dumb check your history. OHSAA has had rulings reversed and there is an appeal process. I’m not saying the OHSAA should forcibly do anything. Just give a clearly superior team the option to give their players a better and more challenging tournament experience. It would be better for everyone involved. And ultimately Richmond Heights would have the ability to decline.
 
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CleveHoopFan08

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"Just give a clearly superior team the option to give their players a better and more challenging tournament experience. It would be better for everyone involved."

Especially, for the small rural schools with their once in a lifetime team that has a chance to either go to Dayton or compete for a state championship but now wont because of Richmond Heights? Just looking for clarification . . .asking for a friend.
 
winbypin

winbypin

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ColumbusCatholic said:
Kind of a dumb question? Before you come guns blazing calling questions dumb check your history. OHSAA has had rulings reversed and there is an appeal process. I’m not saying the OHSAA should forcibly do anything. Just give a clearly superior team the option to give their players a better and more challenging tournament experience. It would be better for everyone involved. And ultimately Richmond Heights would have the ability to decline.
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Who would challenge OHSAA if they merely gave an option for them to move up? I guess maybe the folks in D3, D2, or wherever you want to place them.

While we are at it...any other teams you want OHSAA to give options to move up so they can clear space for your team?
 
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playboi12

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winbypin said:
Who would challenge OHSAA if they merely gave an option for them to move up? I guess maybe the folks in D3, D2, or wherever you want to place them.

While we are at it...any other teams you want OHSAA to give options to move up so they can clear space for your team?
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For real. We didn’t say nothin when Marion Local had a nice run in D4 for a few years. Let these kids play and chill man. It’s not that serious.
 
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SWOHHoops

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Ohiohshoops3 said:
Richmond has not had a CB number up until 2 years ago. For anyone to defend what has happened there is a joke. Their school has gone above and beyond to lie about what is actually happening.
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Pretty strong, definitive accusation. What exactly are they lying about? Are you saying they have kids transfer in after 7th grade and don't report them for CB?
 
Insane92

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playboi12 said:
For real. We didn’t say nothin when Marion Local had a nice run in D4 for a few years. Let these kids play and chill man. It’s not that serious.
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Are you comparing Marion Local teams with zero transfers for basketball/football to the situation at Richmond Heights who suddenly had success 4 years ago? You just think that D3 Deer Park teams a couple was homegrown talent too.
 
Insane92

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Stirred not Shaken said:
No not everybody is doing it. That is just a cop out for the schools that take advantage of the rules or lack of.
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Like I’ve said before. People on here turn a blind eye to some of these schools who have move ins that translate to a string of sudden successes and then tell the rest of the legit small school teams to “get good” and for some reason don’t see a problem.
 
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ColumbusCatholic

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winbypin said:
Who would challenge OHSAA if they merely gave an option for them to move up? I guess maybe the folks in D3, D2, or wherever you want to place them.

While we are at it...any other teams you want OHSAA to give options to move up so they can clear space for your team?
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Kind of a dumb assumption. I have no D4 team. I was just throwing out a topic for discussion and you act personally offended. You must be a lot of fun at parties. Now that competitive balance is thrown in and divisions are assigned by purposes other than strictly enrollment size special teams like Richmond Heights should have the option to present themselves with a greater and legitimate challenge. It’s like Ohio State football playing in the MAC currently. Winning the D4 championship by 30 would probably mean a little less than winning D2 or D3 by single digits.
 
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bobcat44

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ColumbusCatholic said:
Kind of a dumb assumption. I have no D4 team. I was just throwing out a topic for discussion and you act personally offended. You must be a lot of fun at parties. Now that competitive balance is thrown in and divisions are assigned by purposes other than strictly enrollment size special teams like Richmond Heights should have the option to present themselves with a greater and legitimate challenge. It’s like Ohio State football playing in the MAC currently. Winning the D4 championship by 30 would probably mean a little less than winning D2 or D3 by single digits.
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Doubtful. Why would any school sacrifice a guaranteed state championship for one they might have to earn?
 
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Mr. Red Raider

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I think that it would do good for Richmond Heights to move up to Division III with competitive balance. Eventually St. V ended up moving to Division I ahead of this most recent season.

Honestly, the Spartans are just playing the teams on their schedule. Maybe they should go independent for basketball at the very least, while staying in the CVC for other sports. That would be a better benefit than beating lesser talented teams by such lopsided margins. Just my 0.02.
 
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RubberCitybornandraised

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Insane92 said:
Like I’ve said before. People on here turn a blind eye to some of these schools who have move ins that translate to a string of sudden successes and then tell the rest of the legit small school teams to “get good” and for some reason don’t see a problem.
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Richmond Heights isn’t a “legit” small school team? All 5 starters live in Richmond.
 
Insane92

Insane92

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RubberCitybornandraised said:
Richmond Heights isn’t a “legit” small school team? All 5 starters live in Richmond.
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And have all of them been there the whole time the last couple years? I don’t believe so they’ve had move ins before the last few years. Just because they live there now doesn’t mean anything. They literally had two more transfers come in this year but please go on how they are a traditional small school team.
 
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ColumbusCatholic

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RubberCitybornandraised said:
Richmond Heights isn’t a “legit” small school team? All 5 starters live in Richmond.
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How many came up thru the Richmond Heights school system? Any stories of this team playing in Richmond Heights little league together. If any old timers from Richmond Heights have stories of watching this great team grow up together I’d love to hear them. If 4 or 5 starters had no connection to the school system prior to high school then they are simply an AAU team disguised as a high school team.
 
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ColumbusCatholic

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ColumbusCatholic said:
How many came up thru the Richmond Heights school system? Any stories of this team playing in Richmond Heights little league together. If any old timers from Richmond Heights have stories of watching this great team grow up together I’d love to hear them. If 4 or 5 starters had no connection to the school system prior to high school then they are simply an AAU team disguised as a high school team.
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And that’s completely fine. Success and coaching attract talent. Just let them choose to challenge themselves if they’re up for it.
 
Insane92

Insane92

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ColumbusCatholic said:
How many came up thru the Richmond Heights school system? Any stories of this team playing in Richmond Heights little league together. If any old timers from Richmond Heights have stories of watching this great team grow up together I’d love to hear them. If 4 or 5 starters had no connection to the school system prior to high school then they are simply an AAU team disguised as a high school team.
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This. Transfers from Benedictine last year and one from Cleveland Heights and another from Solon this year. Rinse and repeat. Plus it al of a sudden started at RH with Rogers being the coach. Weird how that happens.
 
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eaglepride

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Insane92 said:
This. Transfers from Benedictine last year and one from Cleveland Heights and another from Solon this year. Rinse and repeat. Plus it al of a sudden started at RH with Rogers being the coach. Weird how that happens.
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Did they Benny transfer really make a difference? They were terrible last year.
 
Insane92

Insane92

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eaglepride said:
Did they Benny transfer really make a difference? They were terrible last year.
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And he didn’t play last year at Benedictine. Reading comprehension isn’t a strong suite for you. The Benedictine person played last year for RH and transferred from Benedictine before last year for RH.
 
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cjb5656

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Richmond Heights has been a small school boy’s basketball power for decades. They’ve historically done very well. And one of the biggest reason high school hoops has decreased in attendance so much over the last decade is the ridiculous amount of transferring that is all too common. You literally have kids that play for three schools in four years in some instances. Richmond Heights is just playing that game now.
 
Insane92

Insane92

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cjb5656 said:
Richmond Heights has been a small school boy’s basketball power for decades. They’ve historically done very well. And one of the biggest reason high school hoops has decreased in attendance so much over the last decade is the ridiculous amount of transferring that is all too common. You literally have kids that play for three schools in four years in some instances. Richmond Heights is just playing that game now.
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What defines small school basketball power to you? Their first time being at state was 2019.
 
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cjb5656

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Insane92 said:
What defines small school basketball power to you? Their first time being at state was 2019.
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Yeah, power is probably too strong. That implies state power. They have a very good basketball history. I’ll go with that. They’ve obviously stepped it up.
 
James x2

James x2

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cjb5656 said:
Richmond Heights has been a small school boy’s basketball power for decades. They’ve historically done very well. And one of the biggest reason high school hoops has decreased in attendance so much over the last decade is the ridiculous amount of transferring that is all too common. You literally have kids that play for three schools in four years in some instances. Richmond Heights is just playing that game now.
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Wrong. Decades??? Maybe a decade starting around 2012. But not a powerhouse every year since.
 
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