Yes, I think they are just seeing if someone will take the bait.It’s been answered before.
didn't see 41-6. what happened with
I guess you didn’t figure in how good St. Edward is!Knocking out both St Ignatius and St Edward from the playoffs in 2 straight years would be pretty impressive. Especially since both of them have better teams this year. Any one of the remaining 8 teams is capable of winning it all. But, I have a feeling this year's state champion will be a first timer public school.
It seems as if Ed’s had an answer for the 5 receivers on the field)Its because you can't cover all 5 of Medina's Wide Receivers. I don't care what St Eds has on defense someone is going to be open on every play. I have been watching high school football for a long time and no one has ever had 5 like Medina does this year that I can remember. Any of those 5 would be the best WR on most teams in Ohio and it wouldn't even be close.
This aged well ?Honestly I haven't seen those teams play. My confidence is in the 5 WR for Medina and obviously Allar against any one this year. If Eds can't find 30 points this week they will lose. They won't hold Medina to less than that.
I would lean heavily that the lights won't go out again, but I would also lean heavily towards banking on the wind WILL be there and it WILL feel colder that it is. That is almost a guarantee at that place. Ugghh!?. Still it is a great venue to see a big game like this.
Where have you been all year?This aged well ?
I did not see 41-6 coming at all, but this (along with last year's R1 final beatdown to Mentor) has to be an eye-opener for the Medina coaching staff that if they want to continue to play big-boy football, they have to become more balanced. I know it's tough to take the ball out of somebody like Drew Allar's hands, but that was actually what allowed Medina to beat Ed's last year.When are these 5 wide, throw the ball every play teams going to learn that it just doenst work deep in the playoffs. Mentor has tried and failed , Medina failed , you have to be balanced and just running qb draws won’t cut it. Even with once in a generation talented qbs they still loose.
great D adjustments by coach Pappas!
To be honest, I didn't see any adjustments...the 1st drive Ed's missed 2 sacks and didn't play the ball well on a couple of throws...they pretty much ran the 3 man front 90% of the time and most of the time still got pressure....also, I don't see Allar ever making an impact at Penn St...I was not impressed w him at all...just a guess about 17/40 on the day?Brighter football minds will be able to ID the adjustments Coach Pappas made tonight after that impressive first drive by Medina's QB and the Bees. I was impressed that whatever he cooked up worked so well for the rest of the game.
Can you believe it. I was sitting there remembering writing this thinking: what are the odds.Did the lights go out again?
Ok I understand you are feeling good about Ed’s win…but to say Allar is not impressive just shows you don’t know football. I mean…OSU’s staff seems to think he’s pretty good, considering they came after him when Ewers reclassified. Just enjoy the win but don’t speak nonsense lolTo be honest, I didn't see any adjustments...the 1st drive Ed's missed 2 sacks and didn't play the ball well on a couple of throws...they pretty much ran the 3 man front 90% of the time and most of the time still got pressure....also, I don't see Allar ever making an impact at Penn St...I was not impressed w him at all...just a guess about 17/40 on the day?
Agree that there really wasn't any adjustment after the first drive. It was just a well executed drive by Medina where Allar did a great job side stepping pressure and delivering nice throws to receivers who were pretty well covered. The rest of the night did not go as smoothly. The coverage downfield was great (eliminating the home run balls), the front three of Kilbane/Harvey/Gedeon were able to generate pressure without having to blitz, and Zyion Brown and the safeties got good drops and created disruption in the passing lanes that Allar is accustomed to throwing into.To be honest, I didn't see any adjustments...the 1st drive Ed's missed 2 sacks and didn't play the ball well on a couple of throws...they pretty much ran the 3 man front 90% of the time and most of the time still got pressure....also, I don't see Allar ever making an impact at Penn St...I was not impressed w him at all...just a guess about 17/40 on the day?
No worries, our QB pipeline at the Shoe is doing well and Franklin can't utilize talent completely nor can he win top 10 games. Having said that, if he ever decides to come home, oh boy those numbersAgree that there really wasn't any adjustment after the first drive. It was just a well executed drive by Medina where Allar did a great job side stepping pressure and delivering nice throws to receivers who were pretty well covered. The rest of the night did not go as smoothly. The coverage downfield was great (eliminating the home run balls), the front three of Kilbane/Harvey/Gedeon were able to generate pressure without having to blitz, and Zyion Brown and the safeties got good drops and created disruption in the passing lanes that Allar is accustomed to throwing into.
Disagree that this game is an indictment on Allar. I've watched the kid enough and he is a phenomenal arm talent. As a Buckeye fan, I'm hoping Franklin jumps ship and Allar swings back to the good guys. He would put up video game numbers in Day's offense.
a QB's best friend is a good running game. If a 3-man DL front can stop the rush and put pressure on the QB, the D will win the math equation of 8 vs 5. Elks faced the same thing all season. If the DBs can play man-press on the WRs, the QB has no chance to be effective (8 > 5).Full transparency here.. first time I saw either team play. Medina looked like they had no business in this game. Ed's line man-handled Medina on both sides of the ball. Can't believe Medina's area league offense, not a single running play. I can't picture any team with a one dimensional game plan winning a championship (remember Mentor's "who needs defense? We got Mitch!" year?).
I agree Medina's QB has got NFL caliber written all over him but with no time to throw and receivers that couldn't get separation or dropping multiple passes, he didn't have a chance. Medina reminded me of the Brown's, couldn't get off the field on 3rd down.
Full transparency here.. first time I saw either team play. Medina looked like they had no business in this game. Ed's line man-handled Medina on both sides of the ball. Can't believe Medina's area league offense, not a single running play. I can't picture any team with a one dimensional game plan winning a championship (remember Mentor's "who needs defense? We got Mitch!" year?).
I agree Medina's QB has got NFL caliber written all over him but with no time to throw and receivers that couldn't get separation or dropping multiple passes, he didn't have a chance. Medina reminded me of the Brown's, couldn't get off the field on 3rd down.
Mentors problem has been defense. We've had plenty of balanced teams offensively that got it done plenty in the playoffs and did their job. Eds fans should know thatWhen are these 5 wide, throw the ball every play teams going to learn that it just doenst work deep in the playoffs. Mentor has tried and failed , Medina failed , you have to be balanced and just running qb draws won’t cut it. Even with once in a generation talented qbs they still loose.
great D adjustments by coach Pappas!
don't be surprised if both Miller and McCord are gone after this season. the vacuum behind Ewers will make it hard to sign a '22 QB. Allar should be a in a great position at Penn State - hope that Franklin is still at Penn State when he gets thereNo worries, our QB pipeline at the Shoe is doing well and Franklin can't utilize talent completely nor can he win top 10 games. Having said that, if he ever decides to come home, oh boy those numbers
I agree Mentor's issues have usually been defensively. But I would say their best team defenses were those 2002-2003 teams. If the 2003 game isn't played in terrible weather I think they would have beaten St. Ed's and probably given Elder a better game than we did. Just more balance and more talent. Don't get me wrong, that 2003 St. Ed's team was good and fun to watch, had a way to win that worked and competed with everyone but Elder was too big and too strong.Mentors problem has been defense. We've had plenty of balanced teams offensively that got it done plenty in the playoffs and did their job. Eds fans should know that
The only year like this Medina team was 2011 where we had tons of talent at wr and went 5 wide. We played Ignatius with a huge wind the whole game and lost by 6. If it were better conditions like Medina had yesterday , I think mentor wins the state title that year
We really shouldn't be compared to Medina here. Mentors breakthrough teams in 2002 and 2003 lost by 7 in the first regional final and by 3 in OT in the second regional final. Medina lost by 35 each time
We've also won the region 7 times and been to 4 state finals. And two of those state finals were 1 point losses in double ot and a 3 point loss as well
It was hardly unbalanced offenses that has led to Mentor just coming up short