Recreational Marijuana in Ohio

I enjoy wrestling said:
Why shouldn't all drugs be legalized? It's your body. Fentanyl, Heroine and Pcp just to name a few. Have open Apothecaries that dispense any drug available for profit. Think of the tax money.
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They probably should be given the lack of success in making them illegal. That said, a much better comparison for pot is alcohol or tobacco, not heroin.
 
IVCguy said:
Per usual, I made my point and you didn't get it because "getting it" is not your strong suit.

Alcohol and tobacco have a long history in America. An argument can be made that the country was built on those 2 products, along with a few others. We all understand the negative things that come with those products, but they were ingrained into American culture from its inception.

But this is the important paragraph if you are capable of getting it. My point is that pot is deadly (I have a grave to prove it), it's addictive, and it causes psychosis. Given that we already tolerate products like alcohol and tobacco that come with bad health and/or social effects, do we want to introduce new things into that mix in our culture? I don't -specifically for that reason.

Legalizers are all about hyping the theoretical advantages of legalization, but minimize or ignore the harsh reality of the costs. Legalization relies on a hyper-idividualistic libertarian context, but the truth is that we live in families and communities and what each of us does affects everyone else our life touches. Again, I have a grave as evidence of this harsh reality. So, before we all go all in on our 4/20 enthusiasm, we should consider this aspect of the cost. Will this enhance families and communities, make children safer, make our society more stable? It is hard for me to see how facilitating and endorsing more intoxicated, lazy, unmotivated, paranoid, ravenous hungry people is a good thing, but these are the kinds of debates we are having.
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You used a lot of words to say that this opinion is strictly based on your personal preference of intoxicants. The BS about America being built on booze and cigs as a reason to differentiate is totally ridiculous. I don‘t even know what to say about the silly comment about pot causing psychosis. I‘d bet a good amount more psychosis exists in alcoholics than pot heads.
 
ProV1 said:
You used a lot of words to say that this opinion is strictly based on your personal preference of intoxicants. The BS about America being built on booze and cigs as a reason to differentiate is totally ridiculous. I don‘t even know what to say about the silly comment about pot causing psychosis. I‘d bet a good amount more psychosis exists in alcoholics than pot heads.
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Good ole-fashioned "Reefer Madness" propaganda. Boy was that an effective campaign or what? You can't smoke more weed than Willie Nelson or Snoop Dog and I don't think either are psychotic. (Ditto 90% of everyone reading this post). Clueless.
 
BlueJayFan said:
Never been to an NYC dispensary. Are they like the ones in Michigan/Colorado (if you've been)?
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I’ve only been in NYC and Seattle. I would say the girls working the one here on Broadway were awesome. Was in with my dad who was inquiring about use for pain management etc and they knew their sht really well.
 
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14Red said:
It's really stunning to me that this is even considered. I'd vote against it 100 times.

One of the few deterrents of it IS because it's illegal. We have a big addiction problem in this country and this will only assist in that. I can't wrap my mind around anything that make this a good idea.
Only if you've exhausted all other avenues from a prescription side, then I'd be ok with medicinal marijuana, but that's it.
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Funny I remember when everyone was saying the same thing about gambling. Then Indiana and Kentucky legalized it. Pot is no different then alcohol but NOT physically addictive. Do you even know the history of why it was outlawed?
 
IF Ohio is to vote on legalizing MJ, better for the GOP if it were to be voted on this year than next. Because this will bring out the young vote which could get Sherrod Brown reelected.
 
BlueJayFan said:
www.dispatch.com

Will Ohio vote on legal marijuana in November? Group submits signatures for proposal

Advocates are trying to put the proposal before voters as GOP leaders refuse to consider an adult-use marijuana program.
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Looking more and more likely to be on the ballot in November
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I know in NWOhio lots of Ohio dollars cross over into Michigan for legal THC products.

To repeat myself from before, I have always been for this with some regulation. Having traveled to areas where it is "legal" I can tell you I have started to wane as those places have become almost overrun with the stuff in public settings. I do not care if it is used in someone's home or even at a weed bar, although I do not know how they would get around the indoor smoking ban, but having to smell the stuff everywhere you go in public is not good.
 
irish_buffalo said:
I know in NWOhio lots of Ohio dollars cross over into Michigan for legal THC products.

To repeat myself from before, I have always been for this with some regulation. Having traveled to areas where it is "legal" I can tell you I have started to wane as those places have become almost overrun with the stuff in public settings. I do not care if it is used in someone's home or even at a weed bar, although I do not know how they would get around the indoor smoking ban, but having to smell the stuff everywhere you go in public is not good.
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I don’t think I found the smell anymore prevalent in San Diego, Seattle, Chicago as I do in downtown Cincinnati (both before and after medicinal was legalized in Ohio). Maybe it’s just more of an urban thing than a legalization thing.

That said even as someone who frequently partakes, I agree. Don’t love smelling it out and about.
 
Stirred not Shaken said:
The pot sold in stores most likely will be too expensive for kids to pay for however I would rather have people buy the real stuff than pot laced with another drug.
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When medical pot went legal I attended a convention about the growers and the medical pot market. One of the distributors was complaining about how all the government regulation was making it costly. He got really pissed when I said as long as the cost stays high there will always be a black market.
 
The decay, decline, and devastation on full display. First it was the lies from the gambling industry and now this debacle. The baby killers are on the same ballot as well. Sick times.
 
cabezadecaballo said:
This

If it is another codified monopoly, like Gilbert's gambling Amendment ballot issue was, it's a huge mistake. This is also the real reason we must require a 60% vote to Amend the Ohio Constitution.

My primary objection to recreational pot is the certainty that pot will become available to even more kids and their developing brains and emotions. It's bad for kids.
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I am in the same place today that I was at the beginning of May on this issue.

I think medical is the place to draw the line, because the parameters are not that hard to satisfy, and the supply will remain strictly tracked.
 
BlueJayFan said:
I personally will be lighting up a joint after I drive a lesbian to get an abortion just to piss you off
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I figured you'd listen to Kid Rock on your way to see Barbie while sipping on a Bud Light. Your idea sounds really cool though. You're an absolute rebel. 😂
 
All these different situations shows the continued moral decay of a nation which one political party has figured out how to use to their political benefit and the other party has not.
 
I enjoy wrestling said:
Abortion, Pot, Sexual issues....... go Democrats
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Here’s what I’ve been wondering about today - IF a group completes all the preliminary petitions, etc to get an amendment Issue on the Ohio ballot in the November general election, and does this BEFORE the August 8 special election on Issue 1, does the POTENTIAL passage of Issue 1 not apply to an amendment Issue approved by the old paradigm ? Like the abortion initiative ?

If so, timing could make passage of Issue 1 actually better to solidify abortion rights in Ohio. It would slam the door on a 51% correction.
If passed when would Issue 1 actually apply ?
 
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Deleted75680 said:
Dude got 34 years for selling pot.

New court ruling shaves 3 years off man’s 34-year sentence​

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New court ruling shaves 3 years off man’s 34-year sentence - LimaOhio.com

LIMA — A Lima man sentenced in 2017 to 34 years in prison for trafficking in marijuana and engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity was back in court Monday, albeit via a video hook-up from prison.
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What Prosecutor imprisoned the most Black men in the history of California for Selling Weed? Dictator DeWine doesn’t want legal weed but wants to do everything to help the fentynal,heroin people. Biden wants to control how much beer you drink. These politicians are fn idiots going with their personal idiotic beliefs,Not what the People want!
 
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