Questions on Region 4 playoffs

Mater Dei lost to once beaten Orange Lutheran
Orange Lutheran lost to twice beaten Servite
Servite lost to once beaten Mater Dei and twice beaten (and previosuly nationally ranked) Notre Dame


FYI Notre Dame lost to two teams that are or have been nationally ranked, Birmingham and Crespi

Moeller lost to 3 loss 1 tie Mission Viejo and 4 loss ELder as well As St X and Colerain

Elder lost to 5-5 LaSalle and 4-5 St Edwards as well as to St X twice

those TWO GCL teams have 4 losses to teams with 5 losses, 5 losses, 4 losses and 3 losses/1 tie COMBINED 17 LOSSES 1 TIE

the three Trinity teams have 4 losses to a team with 2 losses, and 3 teams with one loss COMBINED 5 LOSSES
 
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how many excuses this time for the ST X performance against St Iggy

4?
5?

lmao

sophomore QB gee what year was the St Iggy QB?

travel road game of 200 miles gee DLS traveled 500 miles to beat MV who traveled 2000 miles to beat a GCL team

a traditional power? that lost by 21 to another team this year

high winds?/ crybaby

etc etc
 
that DLS's top two opponents this year are a 7-3 NorCal team and the MV team you keep poo-pooing? Do an "Etc etc." on that.

DLS led that 7-3 team (who play in a REAL league with 7 teams who a few days ago combined non-league record was 29-3-1 - compare that to the GCL non-league record) 34-0 at half

DLS beat MV by 28

DLS closest game this year was 40-22 a team they led 40-0 a few plays into the second half

contrast that to St X who took three overtimes to beat a 3 loss team by 3 points, that team lost to another team by 21 points

dont go there you aint got the cards
 
that awesome St Eds team you refer to was outscored 185-125 this year

yet they beat Elder

125 points all year???

wow what a machine

DLS first three games this year
they had 116 points DURING THE FIRST HALF ALONE
 
Mater Dei put 51 points up on nationally ranked Birmingham who is 9-1 in one of the most exciting games ever played

Birminham has outscored its other 9 opponents 410-122
 
consumerman said:
Just exactly what about the Trinity League is supposed to strike fear throughout the nation?

Meter Dei has one loss (to a fellow Trinity League team) and is currently nationally ranked [One notable non-league win in which they dropped 37 points. Dropped 32 at home to a team from Utah.]

Orange Lutheran has 1 loss (to a fellow Trinity League team) and has been nationally ranked this year (were state D2 bowl champs last year) [They've played nobody outside the league. Whoopee.]

Servite has 2 losses (one to a fellow Trinity League Team) and have been nationally ranked this year [Lost to ND in their biggest non-league game. Their only other non-league game that possibly matters was Edison in a 6-0 barnburner]

lets compare to the GCL

St X - no losses - nationally ranled
Moeller - 4 losses - never nationally ranked this year [Two losses to national top tens. One other in-league loss.]
Elder - 4 losses - perhaps squeaked into the national rankings for 1-2 weeks [Two of four losses to the national #2 ranked team. One other in-league.]

I would rate the teams this way [I'm sure you would]

1. St X
2. Mater Dei
3. Orange Lutheran
4. Servite
5. Moeller
6. Elder

I think the biggest gap is between the #4 and #5 teams [You would? Shocker :eek: . After all, Servite's 7 wins are over teams with a combined 30 losses. Their 4 non-league wins were to teams with 19 losses between them. The other one they lost.]

I would rate the top three teams in the Trinity League as certainly better than the top three teams in the GCL [You may want to wait for another win or two against decent competition outside the league, but that's up to you. Servite had played maybe three decent opponents this year. They are 1-2. Mater Dei had a rough time at home against a visiting utah team and dropped 37 in another game....]
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When these teams have played anything like decent out of league comp (and this wasn't often), they've dropped big points in some, had close calls and a loss. Apart from the MD win over Centennial, in which MD dropped 37 points, what's there to really to harp on?
 
consumerman said:
how many excuses this time for the ST X performance against St Iggy

4?
5?

lmao

sophomore QB gee what year was the St Iggy QB? [Genius, X held the Iggy QB to 5/18 for 92 yards. The score was 7-7 at the end of regulation. Iggy had 11 yards rushing. It was defensive struggle. Continue to advertise your stupidity. Ignatius is one of the finest programs in Ohio, with nine D1 titles and at least a couple of national poll titles to their credit.]

travel road game of 200 miles gee DLS traveled 500 miles to beat MV who traveled 2000 miles to beat a GCL team [Professor, did DLS a sophomore QB in his first start on varsity? What possible connection is there between MV beating Moe and St. X playing Ignatius? Try to make some sense. i know it's hard for you, but at least try.]

a traditional power? that lost by 21 to another team this year [Yes. That team is in the final eight. They are a pass strong team and played Iggy in good weather. Get informed.]

high winds?/ crybaby [I suppose California sophomore QBs in their first varsity start 250 miles from home just tear apart opposing 7-1 teams despite 20+ mph winds. Right, Mr. Richard?]

etc etc
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blah blah blah wonk wonk wonk
 
concha said:
blah blah blah wonk wonk wonk
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most of iggys accomplishments were done 15 or more years ago

what does that have to do with 2007 in which they lost a game by 21 points?

as for sophomore quareterbacks

you better look up Matt Gutierrez at DLS

In 1999, in his third start he threw for 300 yards and 6 TD against Matt Leinart and Mater Dei

do some research next time

DLS went undefeated and did not have to excuse away 3 overtime 3 point wins a gainst a 3 loss team
 
What possible connection is there between MV beating Moe and St. X playing Ignatius? Try to make some sense.

YOU are the one that said plaqying in Cleveland (200 miles away) was an EXCUSE for ST X barely beating St iggy

I think a 500 mile road trip and a 2000 mile raod trip are much tougher, yet the cali teams won those games without making 4-5 excuses
 
Mater Dei had a rough time at home against a visiting utah team

they did?

the game was in doubt? almost a 20 point win

st x TRAILED in a game against a Kentucky team BY DOUBLE DIGITS

who had a rougher time?

by the way I listened to the St X ELder playoff game on the St X radio station

the announcers COMPLAINED FOUR TIMES about the officiating in the 1st Quarter alone

typical crybabies
 
7 of St Ignatius state titles are 13 years ago or older

they have not won since 2001 (7 seasons ago) and even then they were a stellar 4 loss team

that is like me saying DLS beat Mission Viejo, a 2 time national top three team (2004, 2005) by 28

what does what a team did 3-4 years ago have to do with this season?

let alone 13 years ago

point made!
 
Do you have anything else better to do than say that R4 (and GCL specifically) sucks, while not showing any other better region and/or league?
 
WrongPerson said:
Do you have anything else better to do than say that R4 (and GCL specifically) sucks, while not showing any other better region and/or league?
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I have said the Trinity League with 3 nationally ranked teams is very comparable to the GCL

can you READ?

I have sadi the WCAL with a non-league record of 29-3-1 compares with the non-league record of the GCL very well

can you READ?

I have said I am very surprised the R4 basically has 6 of 8 playoff teams from only 2 leagues, I thought a region would be much more diverse

you should reread the first post of this thread
 
concha said:
Look, if you want the Trinity League to be the best, then great. You go, girl. I'm just a little curious as to what the Trinity League teams have done, though. The top three teams have played two notable non-league games this whole season and are 1-1. Wow. MD dropped 32 points to a 4-loss team from Utah.

Just exactly what about the Trinity League is supposed to strike fear throughout the nation?
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The score was 50-25 with 30 seconds left and American Fork scored with 25 seconds left on the scrubs to make it 50-32.
 
If those to compare so well to the GCL, then why is there a problem with saying that the GCL is a national powerhouse of a league?...I don't see it.
 
WrongPerson said:
If those to compare so well to the GCL, then why is there a problem with saying that the GCL is a national powerhouse of a league?...I don't see it.
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as I see it

the problems are thee are only 4 teams
only 3 league games

and 3 of the 4 teams are hardly state powers let alone national powers
 
All four of the teams were at one time or another in on the AP top 10 poll...don't see where they're not considered statewide powers. And how does 3 league games hinder the chances of showing what they're made of? If anything it helps them because they have to go out and play teams outside of the league more often.

And there is a difference between the GCL being a national powerhouse of a league and the members of the GCL being national powerhouses. Take for example the SEC...great college conference...but not every school in there is the best of the best...every league will have their doormats.
 
All four of the teams were at one time or another in on the AP top 10 poll...don't see where they're not considered statewide powers

so now they are state powers

so moeller is a state power?

and lost to a team that struggled to win 5 of 9 games in california
 
consumerman said:
All four of the teams were at one time or another in on the AP top 10 poll...don't see where they're not considered statewide powers

so now they are state powers

so moeller is a state power?

and lost to a team that struggled to win 5 of 9 games in california
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No matter what evidence he tries to use to help his argument, the answer to the question about the "other" GCL teams being state powers is a resounding NO.

Is it a competitive league? Absolutely. But the only team that proved themselves to be a state power at the end of the season was X. The others had their 5 minutes of fame and quickly faded out. No one but X could play at a consitently high level.
 
consumerman said:
as I see it

the problems are thee are only 4 teams
only 3 league games

and 3 of the 4 teams are hardly state powers let alone national powers
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Thats why I said they're statewide powers.

This year the other 3 GCL schools were down, yet they still managed a combined record of 25-7 (14-6 top 1000 according to calpreps) in OOL play against strong teams. That is why I hold the GCL so high.
 
consumerman said:
that DLS's top two opponents this year are a 7-3 NorCal team and the MV team you keep poo-pooing? Do an "Etc etc." on that.

DLS led that 7-3 team (who play in a REAL league with 7 teams who a few days ago combined non-league record was 29-3-1 - compare that to the GCL non-league record) 34-0 at half [Good for them. "REAL" league? LMAO. What's next? A "yo' mama" joke?]

DLS beat MV by 28 [And?]

DLS closest game this year was 40-22 a team they led 40-0 a few plays into the second half [Was someone here saying DLS isn't good?]

contrast that to St X who took three overtimes to beat a 3 loss team by 3 points, that team lost to another team by 21 points [Keep humping this. You're like a horny monkey with a football. Ignatius lost to three teams with a combined 31-4 record. X was playing a sophomore QB in his first varsity start on a day with winds gusting over 30 mph. Ignatius is strong on run D and weaker against the pass. That you can't process the significance of this information is an advertisement of stupidity.]

dont go there you aint got the cards [Actually, we do. Next week. Colerain Cardinals. National top ten.]
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consumerman said:
MAter Dei blew out the Utah team

at least they didnt trail BIG TIME Like St X did against a KENTUCKY TEAM (lmao)
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That Kentucky program has national top ten history, produced the likes of Brian Brohm and is a perennial contender or their state's big school title. St. X beat them by 18 after being down "big time". Think about that. Better yet, don't. You'll only hurt yourself and end up with some ridiculous conclusion.
 
concha said:
That Kentucky program has national top ten history, produced the likes of Brian Brohm and is a perennial contender or their state's big school title. St. X beat them by 18 after being down "big time". Think about that. Better yet, don't. You'll only hurt yourself and end up with some ridiculous conclusion.
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i put it along with the ridiculous some utah team hung 32 on them (without mentioning they scored 50)
 
consumerman said:
that awesome St Eds team you refer to was outscored 185-125 this year

yet they beat Elder

125 points all year???

wow what a machine

DLS first three games this year
they had 116 points DURING THE FIRST HALF ALONE
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I'm sure Eds would be happy to hear that you think they were awesome.

Eds was certainly no DLS this year and this was weakest Eds team in years, though they did face opponents with a combined 69-27 record. That is much better than the 49-40-1 record that the Spartans have faced.

DLS looks really good this year. Too bad they don't face anybody that anyone anywhere holds in high regard. It's real shame to have a team that good but have to beat up on cupcakes all year.
 
concha said:
I'm sure Eds would be happy to hear that you think they were awesome.

Eds was certainly no DLS this year and this was weakest Eds team in years, though they did face opponents with a combined 69-27 record. That is much better than the 49-40-1 record that the Spartans have faced.

DLS looks really good this year. Too bad they don't face anybody that anyone anywhere holds in high regard. It's real shame to have a team that good but have to beat up on cupcakes all year.
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ya t hey could have played st eds who scored 125 points in 10 games
 
consumerman said:
Mater Dei put 51 points up on nationally ranked Birmingham who is 9-1 in one of the most exciting games ever played

Birminham has outscored its other 9 opponents 410-122
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I believe it was Centennial. Not Birmingham.

And a ton of those points Centennial scored were against teams with 4 losses or losing records. They barely beat 7-3-1 CW the week before the MD game.
 
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