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My suggestion on Minerva is this....and it maybe happening...Minerva drops 11 man football and goes to 8 man...plays that schedule but remains in the EBC for every other sport. Takes the time to build positivity back in their football program and is still in a league for all other sports. Hubbard has just been accepted for football only, and so the rest of the league schedule is the same amount of games. I don't know if this was the idea you suggested Mr Kotite ...but we are not the only ones having a Minerva conversation....the other 7 schools in the EBC are having this same discussion...and 3 and 85 and 12 years is wearing on them. The sad thing in 2010 they were a very good football team....Lake scrimmaged them and they beat us....they were fast. We had a very good team that year...we lost in the state semi's
Howland, not Hubbard.
 
Enrollment size means nothing when the kids will not go out...8 man means less kids needs to go out....get them winning with a new style and start planning to get back to 11 man...your idea leads them to dropping football totally and now they run the risk of getting booted from the EBC...a school in a league is better then not...look at Louisville. 3 and 86 is not a losing pattern it is a total catastrophe...a normal approach will not really work with their learned behavior of losing...in those 86 games there had to be numerous times they snatched defeat from a game that they should have won...8 man could generate excitement...they don't have to stay at 8 man
There is net zero chance they get booted from the EBC, the conference is not going to shoot themselves in the foot more than they already have. Them going to 8 man is no different than them dropping football all-together for the other teams in the conference, they can't schedule them either way
 
There is net zero chance they get booted from the EBC, the conference is not going to shoot themselves in the foot more than they already have. Them going to 8 man is no different than them dropping football all-together for the other teams in the conference, they can't schedule them either way
I fully understand what you are saying....I was just looking at a Minerva prospective...how do they stop this nightmare they are in and correct the losing...the problem with losing football games...it becomes a learned behavior
 
Enrollment size means nothing when the kids will not go out...8 man means less kids needs to go out....get them winning with a new style and start planning to get back to 11 man...your idea leads them to dropping football totally and now they run the risk of getting booted from the EBC...a school in a league is better then not...look at Louisville. 3 and 86 is not a losing pattern it is a total catastrophe...a normal approach will not really work with their learned behavior of losing...in those 86 games there had to be numerous times they snatched defeat from a game that they should have won...8 man could generate excitement...they don't have to stay at 8 man
Is kids not going out the issue? I'm not too familiar with the situation at Minerva, but if that's the case, that's going to require a culture change, and that's not an easy fix.
 
Is kids not going out the issue? I'm not too familiar with the situation at Minerva, but if that's the case, that's going to require a culture change, and that's not an easy fix.
What I know of the situation a lot has been with the coaches they chose...a culture change is very difficult. They have a nice setup with their facilities and stadium
 
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I am surprised that weaker teams haven't already scheduled them....who would you suggest is a weaker team? If 8 man is out...then this is their only option. When is the last time they won a league game?
2019 over West Branch was their last win. This year in league they have a shot against Salem and potentially Carrollton. Out of conference I'd schedule Akron North, Akron Springfield, East Cleveland Shaw, and Tuslaw. You have realistically 5 games in that schedule they could win and an actual shot at a winning season. They have competent players in Minerva, their middle school teams are consistently solid but kids are forced into varsity football as Freshman, get beat down for 10 weeks, then decide to play other sports. You get some wins and that changes
 
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2019 over West Branch was their last win. This year in league they have a shot against Salem and potentially Carrollton. Out of conference I'd schedule Akron North, Akron Springfield, East Cleveland Shaw, and Tuslaw. You have realistically 5 games in that schedule they could win and an actual shot at a winning season. They have competent players in Minerva, their middle school teams are consistently solid but kids are forced into varsity football as Freshman, get beat down for 10 weeks, then decide to play other sports. You get some wins and that changes
You wish Broc Dial was coaching Carrollton.
 
I'd rather have his dad, real old school ball coach
Gary was a football coach. His teams played Lake tuff the 5 games he coached against them. The first game was a slobber knocker 7 to 6 win for Lake in 1981....Lake had to score on a 48 yard pass caught by Rob Stradley with 2 seconds left, he carried 2 tacklers into the end zone from the 2 yard line...rushed a sophomore kicker in who never kicked an ex point in a game for the win
 
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2019 over West Branch was their last win. This year in league they have a shot against Salem and potentially Carrollton. Out of conference I'd schedule Akron North, Akron Springfield, East Cleveland Shaw, and Tuslaw. You have realistically 5 games in that schedule they could win and an actual shot at a winning season. They have competent players in Minerva, their middle school teams are consistently solid but kids are forced into varsity football as Freshman, get beat down for 10 weeks, then decide to play other sports. You get some wins and that changes
Do you think Minerva is going to be better or is Carrollton in for a long year...you guys won 5 of your last 7 last year..Salem was 1 and 9
 
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"Thanks Matt Underwear, Rick Manning the Wife Swapper, and Andre NOT....I haven't seen three men with less talent since that time with Chuck Schumer and his two staffers....Anyways my sources in my hometown of Alliance tell me the seasoned citizens are pissed they can't walk laps at the Carnation Mall these days and they're desperate to relocate their downtown off a side street and get Minerva off the Aviators football schedule. Now I'm gonna go have a Marlboro just like Lenny Dawson did at halftime in the Super Bowl. I hope these old people behind me from Rittman don't hit me over the head with their cane. I'm tired of taking shiz from these old bastardz. I wish I was gassy tonight and could release the hounds on these ungrateful pricks. Who would actually buy a $100 ticket to watch this shi*? Bob 99 makes me hot. #PACtion™."
You do me great honor. If she is holding a cast iron skillet you couldn't pay me to go near her:ROFLMAO:
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Do you think Minerva is going to be better or is Carrollton in for a long year...you guys won 5 of your last 7 last year..Salem was 1 and 9
Four of our wins were against 1-9 Salem, 2-8 Garfield, 1-9 Manchester, and 0-10 Minerva. The wins against Marlington and Alliance were nice wins and honestly a pretty average group of kids for us overachieved big time last year. Realistically we shouldn't struggle with Minerva but it's a rivalry game so I always think of them as winnable
 
I think Minerva would be a good addition to the pac for several reasons.

1. Good facilities
2. Declining enrollment

I understand the 3-77 argument but during that same span would they have a better or worse record if they were members of the PAC? I would be willing to bet they would have a few additional wins.

plus the addition of a Minerva would boost the conference in sports like Wrestling, track, and cross country.
Smoove want to be made knowledgable aboutcht their concessionary stand and the chickies that runify it......would they welcome Smoove into their lair?! Smoove just kiddin'......OF COURSE they would!!!!
 
Minerva does play Akron Springfield this coming season, who hasn’t won a game since 2021, but I do think Minerva needs to start playing teams like Akron North, Springfield, St. Thomas Aquinas, Leetonia, etc., every year until they get out of the rut they are in and have been for years. I wish Coventry would schedule them.
 
Louisville has a very good program. There could be some movement, but they have some very good classes coming up so I don't think you will see much change for the next few years.
I actually meant more kids will choose NOT to land at Louisville since they are moving from D2 to D1. You are correct to say they will not see change from them in terms of outflow, I know pretty much all the kids there. I more meant people, mostly parents trying to finagle the path of least resistance for a state title for their kids and seek out some quality D2 programs instead of D1 thinking the path will be easier. The real competitors will stay put or seek out the competition regardless of what schools slide up or down when CB is finalized. Long deep rabbit hole on this topic for another day.......
 
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PAC Game of the Year - 2011 | CVCA (7-2, 6-0 PAC) at Manchester (6-3, 5-1 PAC) | Week 10 | October 28, 2011
This is the 13th in an ongoing series, highlighting the PAC Game of the Year in each season, from 1999 through 2023, which will lead up to the start of the 2024 high school football season. For a look back at prior summaries, click here for 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010.
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After a week off from the series and with the Memorial Day holiday in the rear view mirror, we'll get back into it today and kick off the first of two submissions this week, as we look back at the 2011 season.

The Prelude

The top tier of the conference in 2011 was comprised of three teams. Manchester had just come off a perfect regular season the previous year and went three rounds deep in the playoffs. CVCA was playing its first year as a Division 3 team after being in Division 4 for all but the first year of its existence as a football program. Coming off eight straight winning seasons, the Royals had high aspirations. And the final team at the top of the charts was Indian Valley, as the Braves were program building, coming of their first winning season in a decade the prior year.

Unfortunately for all three teams, the offseason hope turned into regular season reality very quickly. Manchester opened the season with a thud, getting pounded at home by Girard, 49-14. The Panthers followed with a solid 49-28 win over Woodridge but then stumbled for a second time at home in a one-point loss to Black River, 29-28.

CVCA started 0-2, dropping the season opener at Woodridge 16-13 and then was destroyed in the home opener 40-7 by eventual Division 4 State Champion Norwayne. The Royals salvaged the non-conference part of the schedule with a 21-14 win against LaBrae.

Indian Valley got the season started on the right foot with a 34-7 win at home against Sandy Valley, but then fell in consecutive weeks to Claymont (40-18) and Garaway (42-7). Both turned out to be good teams, winning eight an nine games, respectively.

But as the conference schedule began in Week 4, all three teams were smarting at 1-2. Then, when Indian Valley needed overtime in Week 4 to dispatch of lowly Timken and then lost a head-to-head contest with CVCA in Week 5 by a score of 22-18, it seemed like it might be a two-horse race to the finish.

But a funny thing happened in Week 6. Manchester had righted the ship in the first two weeks of conference play, winning big against Tusky Valley (43-7) and steamrolling Timken 63-28. That made them big favorites against the Braves as both teams started the second half of the season. But the Panthers uncharacteristically lost for a third time at home in just six weeks as Indian Valley scored a 28-14 upset. At 3-3 (1-1), with its two most difficult conference games behind them, the Braves still had work to do but the spotlight would shift to the Royals and Panthers.

All CVCA did after opening the season with two non-conference losses was win seven straight. There was the close win over Indian Valley in Week 5 and a close call with Tusky Valley in Week 8, but for the most part, CVCA breezed through the conference slate. And the Jeckyl & Hyde Panthers? It's probably safe to say that Coach France finally got their attention after the Week 6 setback to Indian Valley. Manchester averaged 46 points a game in Weeks 7-9 in dominating victories against Tuslaw, Triway and Fairless.

All of it led to Week 10. Manchester, despite three highly unusual losses at home, would host the Royals, undefeated in the conference, for a shot at yet another conference championship. And if they could pull it off, an Indian Valley win at Tusky Valley would produce a three-way tie for the PAC Championship.

The Game

This was playoff football. Indian Summer? Nope. Not this time. James R. France Stadium. 40° at kickoff, dropping through the upper 30's. No precipitation. Just high school football. Tradition. And a championship on the line.

CVCA and Manchester. Two teams known for pounding the football. But in a surprising departure from the norm, this game featured 33 passing attempts. The home team featured junior Nick Peyakov, in his second year under center. And he got the scoring started with a 29-yard touchdown pass to senior Dallas Edwards less than three minutes into the contest. The Panthers led 7-0. But CVCA took no time in knotting the game at 7-all. Royals senior Drew Jordan was rewarded with a 6-yard touchdown run. Rewarded? Indeed, since he toted the rock 51-yards just two plays before to set up the score. Halfway through the first quarter, the teams were tied.

The Panthers appeared to take control in the second quarter. Senior wide receiver Greg Shoemaker caught one of his seven receptions for 140 yards on the night with 10:27 to go in the quarter. It went for 22 yards and a touchdown - Peyakov's second of the game. And when Peyakok capped a drive with a 3-yard keeper midway through the quarter, the hosts appeared to be in command, leading 21-7 on the cold autumn night.

But twelve seconds in the final minute of the half changed all that. The Panthers fumbled in their own territory and CVCA quarterback Antonio Carrosicia, the son of Royals head coach Ray Carroscia, pulled the Royals within a score when he ran it in from two yards out. And on the next offensive play for the Panthers, Manchester put it on the ground again, and the Royals' Matt Meadows was Johnny-on-the-spot. He picked up the pigskin and returned it 26 yards for another touchdown. Suddenly, the Royals were even. They headed into the locker room tied. They had all the momentum and they were receiving the second half kickoff.

The teams exchanged blows in the third quarter. Much like the middle rounds of an evenly matched heavyweight fight, CVCA took that opening kickoff and needed only 1:43 to take their first lead of the night. Carroscia hit senior Josh Knisely on a 25-yard scoring strike and CVCA led 28-21. But Peyakov hit Shoemaker on a 56-yard bomb, which gave the Panthers first and goal from the one. That's where senior Tyler Graves capped off the drive with a one-yard plunge to draw the game even again with 7:47 left in the period.

The Panthers got a stop on the ensuing CVCA drive, but they muffed the punt - their third crucial turnover. It took the Royals four plays from the Manchester 35-yard line to retake the lead, when Carroscia recorded his second short scoring run - this one from a yard out. CVCA missed the PAT, leaving the door slightly ajar. But the Panthers answered again. This time it was Graves again who capped the drive. His 13-yard rush drew the Panthers even at 34-34 with just 35 seconds to go in the quarter. But the game stayed tied again when the Panthers PAT failed.

Down at Tusky Valley, Indian Valley was taking care of business en route to a 49-20 win, and so it seemed only right that in a PAC season with so much parity amongst the top three that the championship battle should come down to the final quarter at the venerable James R. France Stadium.

The see-saw game saw Manchester again stop the next CVCA offensive drive, and this time, they retained possession on the punt. They say seniors win games. And this half - and this night - belonged to Manchester senior Graves. When he carried across the goal line from the 5-yard line for his third rushing touchdown of the half with 7:58 to go in regulation, Graves put Manchester back on top for the first time since the final minute of the second quarter. But the job wasn't done.

CVCA got the ball back and had plenty of time. The Royals meticulously marched down to the Panthers 13-yard line as time wound down. Ultimately, the game - and the championship aspirations of three teams boiled down to one play. CVCA had fourth and 7 from the Manchester 13 with 1:01 to go, but Carroscia's pass - and the Royals chance for an outright PAC Championship - was knocked down.

Despite the three home losses, the Panthers were conference champions again. Manchester won a thriller. 40-34

Michael Beaven from the ABJ caught up with Tyler Graves:
"This is awesome," said Graves, who rushed for 194 yards on 27 carries. "This has been a great senior year. We had a couple of upsets at the beginning of the season, but we are doing a lot better."
Indeed they were. Peyakov finished 12 for 20 for 215 yards, with two touchdown passes and ran for another, and the win clinched a 19th trip to the OHSAA playoffs for the Panthers.

The loss was a bitter one for CVCA. The 7-game win streak was over. The Royals finished 7-3, missing out on their first-ever outright PAC championship and settling for a co-championship for the second time in four years. The loss left them on the outside looking in, missing the Region 9 playoffs by one spot in their first year in Division 3, as they finished 9th in the region.

As for Indian Valley, they finished the regular season 7-3 (6-1). Back in 1993, in their first brief stint in the PAC, they were conference champs - the only team in the early era of the PAC to unseat Manchester atop the standings. Eighteen years later, they were champs again - even if the title had to be shared.

The Postscript

Manchester finished as the 5-seed in Region 13, which earned them a road rematch with Black River. This time, the Pirates won again. It was one-and-done for the Panthers as Black River recorded a 49-24 victory.

Indian Valley qualified as the 7-seed in Division 4 Region 15, but lost to 2-seed Johnstown-Monroe out of Licking County 42-21.

Here is Michael Beaven's full story from The Akron Beacon-Journal:

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PAC Game of the Year - 2011 | CVCA (7-2, 6-0 PAC) at Manchester (6-3, 5-1 PAC) | Week 10 | October 28, 2011
This is the 13th in an ongoing series, highlighting the PAC Game of the Year in each season, from 1999 through 2023, which will lead up to the start of the 2024 high school football season. For a look back at prior summaries, click here for 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010.
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After a week off from the series and with the Memorial Day holiday in the rear view mirror, we'll get back into it today and kick off the first of two submissions this week, as we look back at the 2011 season.

The Prelude

The top tier of the conference in 2011 was comprised of three teams. Manchester had just come off a perfect regular season the previous year and went three rounds deep in the playoffs. CVCA was playing its first year as a Division 3 team after being in Division 4 for all but the first year of its existence as a football program. Coming off eight straight winning seasons, the Royals had high aspirations. And the final team at the top of the charts was Indian Valley, as the Braves were program building, coming of their first winning season in a decade the prior year.

Unfortunately for all three teams, the offseason hope turned into regular season reality very quickly. Manchester opened the season with a thud, getting pounded at home by Girard, 49-14. The Panthers followed with a solid 49-28 win over Woodridge but then stumbled for a second time at home in a one-point loss to Black River, 29-28.

CVCA started 0-2, dropping the season opener at Woodridge 16-13 and then was destroyed in the home opener 40-7 by eventual Division 4 State Champion Norwayne. The Royals salvaged the non-conference part of the schedule with a 21-14 win against LaBrae.

Indian Valley got the season started on the right foot with a 34-7 win at home against Sandy Valley, but then fell in consecutive weeks to Claymont (40-18) and Garaway (42-7). Both turned out to be good teams, winning eight an nine games, respectively.

But as the conference schedule began in Week 4, all three teams were smarting at 1-2. Then, when Indian Valley needed overtime in Week 4 to dispatch of lowly Timken and then lost a head-to-head contest with CVCA in Week 5 by a score of 22-18, it seemed like it might be a two-horse race to the finish.

But a funny thing happened in Week 6. Manchester had righted the ship in the first two weeks of conference play, winning big against Tusky Valley (43-7) and steamrolling Timken 63-28. That made them big favorites against the Braves as both teams started the second half of the season. But the Panthers uncharacteristically lost for a third time at home in just six weeks as Indian Valley scored a 28-14 upset. At 3-3 (1-1), with its two most difficult conference games behind them, the Braves still had work to do but the spotlight would shift to the Royals and Panthers.

All CVCA did after opening the season with two non-conference losses was win seven straight. There was the close win over Indian Valley in Week 5 and a close call with Tusky Valley in Week 8, but for the most part, CVCA breezed through the conference slate. And the Jeckyl & Hyde Panthers? It's probably safe to say that Coach France finally got their attention after the Week 6 setback to Indian Valley. Manchester averaged 46 points a game in Weeks 7-9 in dominating victories against Tuslaw, Triway and Fairless.

All of it led to Week 10. Manchester, despite three highly unusual losses at home, would host the Royals, undefeated in the conference, for a shot at yet another conference championship. And if they could pull it off, an Indian Valley win at Tusky Valley would produce a three-way tie for the PAC Championship.

The Game

This was playoff football. Indian Summer? Nope. Not this time. James R. France Stadium. 40° at kickoff, dropping through the upper 30's. No precipitation. Just high school football. Tradition. And a championship on the line.

CVCA and Manchester. Two teams known for pounding the football. But in a surprising departure from the norm, this game featured 33 passing attempts. The home team featured junior Nick Peyakov, in his second year under center. And he got the scoring started with a 29-yard touchdown pass to senior Dallas Edwards less than three minutes into the contest. The Panthers led 7-0. But CVCA took no time in knotting the game at 7-all. Royals senior Drew Jordan was rewarded with a 6-yard touchdown run. Rewarded? Indeed, since he toted the rock 51-yards just two plays before to set up the score. Halfway through the first quarter, the teams were tied.

The Panthers appeared to take control in the second quarter. Senior wide receiver Greg Shoemaker caught one of his seven receptions for 140 yards on the night with 10:27 to go in the quarter. It went for 22 yards and a touchdown - Peyakov's second of the game. And when Peyakok capped a drive with a 3-yard keeper midway through the quarter, the hosts appeared to be in command, leading 21-7 on the cold autumn night.

But twelve seconds in the final minute of the half changed all that. The Panthers fumbled in their own territory and CVCA quarterback Antonio Carrosicia, the son of Royals head coach Ray Carroscia, pulled the Royals within a score when he ran it in from two yards out. And on the next offensive play for the Panthers, Manchester put it on the ground again, and the Royals' Matt Meadows was Johnny-on-the-spot. He picked up the pigskin and returned it 26 yards for another touchdown. Suddenly, the Royals were even. They headed into the locker room tied. They had all the momentum and they were receiving the second half kickoff.

The teams exchanged blows in the third quarter. Much like the middle rounds of an evenly matched heavyweight fight, CVCA took that opening kickoff and needed only 1:43 to take their first lead of the night. Carroscia hit senior Josh Knisely on a 25-yard scoring strike and CVCA led 28-21. But Peyakov hit Shoemaker on a 56-yard bomb, which gave the Panthers first and goal from the one. That's where senior Tyler Graves capped off the drive with a one-yard plunge to draw the game even again with 7:47 left in the period.

The Panthers got a stop on the ensuing CVCA drive, but they muffed the punt - their third crucial turnover. It took the Royals four plays from the Manchester 35-yard line to retake the lead, when Carroscia recorded his second short scoring run - this one from a yard out. CVCA missed the PAT, leaving the door slightly ajar. But the Panthers answered again. This time it was Graves again who capped the drive. His 13-yard rush drew the Panthers even at 34-34 with just 35 seconds to go in the quarter. But the game stayed tied again when the Panthers PAT failed.

Down at Tusky Valley, Indian Valley was taking care of business en route to a 49-20 win, and so it seemed only right that in a PAC season with so much parity amongst the top three that the championship battle should come down to the final quarter at the venerable James R. France Stadium.

The see-saw game saw Manchester again stop the next CVCA offensive drive, and this time, they retained possession on the punt. They say seniors win games. And this half - and this night - belonged to Manchester senior Graves. When he carried across the goal line from the 5-yard line for his third rushing touchdown of the half with 7:58 to go in regulation, Graves put Manchester back on top for the first time since the final minute of the second quarter. But the job wasn't done.

CVCA got the ball back and had plenty of time. The Royals meticulously marched down to the Panthers 13-yard line as time wound down. Ultimately, the game - and the championship aspirations of three teams boiled down to one play. CVCA had fourth and 7 from the Manchester 13 with 1:01 to go, but Carroscia's pass - and the Royals chance for an outright PAC Championship - was knocked down.

Despite the three home losses, the Panthers were conference champions again. Manchester won a thriller. 40-34

Michael Beaven from the ABJ caught up with Tyler Graves:

Indeed they were. Peyakov finished 12 for 20 for 215 yards, with two touchdown passes and ran for another, and the win clinched a 19th trip to the OHSAA playoffs for the Panthers.

The loss was a bitter one for CVCA. The 7-game win streak was over. The Royals finished 7-3, missing out on their first-ever outright PAC championship and settling for a co-championship for the second time in four years. The loss left them on the outside looking in, missing the Region 9 playoffs by one spot in their first year in Division 3, as they finished 9th in the region.

As for Indian Valley, they finished the regular season 7-3 (6-1). Back in 1993, in their first brief stint in the PAC, they were conference champs - the only team in the early era of the PAC to unseat Manchester atop the standings. Eighteen years later, they were champs again - even if the title had to be shared.

The Postscript

Manchester finished as the 5-seed in Region 13, which earned them a road rematch with Black River. This time, the Pirates won again. It was one-and-done for the Panthers as Black River recorded a 49-24 victory.

Indian Valley qualified as the 7-seed in Division 4 Region 15, but lost to 2-seed Johnstown-Monroe out of Licking County 42-21.

Here is Michael Beaven's full story from The Akron Beacon-Journal:

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I'll make an easy Jimmy the Greek prediction....


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@Smoove Mooves we gotta do sumpin' about that Loo-a-vull po-leece department. Scottie was screwed, glued, and tattooed in Loo-a-vull worse than a chicken restaurant tryin to compete with The Colonel or a motel tryin to compete with Steve's Motel on 619. This is an outrage and I will rally with my friend @Smoove Mooves to protest all of this bovine scat (BS).

We will bring out the megaphones just like Jimmy "Mouth of the South" Hart and we'll bring out all of the Mini Van Moms of Kenyon Creek and their yoga poses.

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Make it happen....Minerva talk sucks.
 
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