PAC 2023

All I know is Marthey had three times as many rushing yards as Tucker in their last matchup at William E. Kurtz stadium in 2018, which resulted in a Mustangs win :). Thankfully for Tucker, the field conditions in the NFL should be slightly better than they were that night.

Also as a fun fact, this is the second consecutive year that a player from the PAC-7 has been drafted. Dominique Robinson, who played his first two years at Timken before the school merged with McKinley, was drafted by the Bears last season.
 
What’s the saying? Why let facts get in the way of a good story? Here’s a comparison.

Head to head

2017: CVCA 56 Orrville 20
Tucker
  • 9 rushes, 77 yards, TD
  • Passing: 2-2, 21 yards, TD
  • Receiving: 3 catches, 68 yards, TD
  • 1 blocked PAT
Parks
  • 87 yard kickoff return, TD
2018: Orrville 37 CVCA 34
(Bevington injured; missed most of second half)

Tucker
  • Rushing: 33 carries, 211 yards, 2 TDs
  • Passing: 1/3, 19 yards, TD
  • Receiving: 1 catch, 48 yards, TD
  • Defense: 6 tackles, 3 assists
Parks
  • Rushing: 17 carries, 172 yards, 2TD
With all due respect, this doesn’t say “exponentially better.” In fact, most neutral observers would marvel at the athleticism on both sides of the ball on those games. But best player? No question, he was on the Royals sideline.

Nothing takes away the Division 5 state championship. But even there, it’s not a fair argument. Match up Orrville with Perry in Division 4 and the Red Riders probably meet the same fate as CVCA.

As far as player of the year goes? Ethan Wright won in 2017 and 2019. Tucker won over Parks and Wright in 2018. Based on the 2018 head to head result, given the contribution each player made for his team, Tucker was the right choice.

Parks year to win POY was his senior year, in 2020. Sadly, he never got to fulfill what could have been his destiny.

If it was a head to head matchup award you'd have a point, but it isn't. Kyle Snider was outrushed by Miraglia in their matchup this year? Should he have been the POTY? The award has always been slanted towards upperclassmen and the guys with the best narrative, not the best player. Parks should have been a 2 time, arguably 3 time POTY in his career. None of this takes away from Tucker, he was a very good high school player and a much better college prospect than Parks ever was but he simply wasn't as impactful as Parks was across any season
 
All I know is Marthey had three times as many rushing yards as Tucker in their last matchup at William E. Kurtz stadium in 2018, which resulted in a Mustangs win :). Thankfully for Tucker, the field conditions in the NFL should be slightly better than they were that night.

Also as a fun fact, this is the second consecutive year that a player from the PAC-7 has been drafted. Dominique Robinson, who played his first two years at Timken before the school merged with McKinley, was drafted by the Bears last season.
Loved watching Marthey run, but not sure I've ever watched a game at Tuslaw where you could tell what color shoes the kids were wearing. 🤣

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All I can say, is I saw Parks in person 3 times - he's arguable the best football player (skill position) I've seen in person on a high school football field. He was certainly the most electric. Total game breaker. Taking absolutely nothing away from Wright and Tucker, but I'd take Parks if I had to choose.

If you were building a high school team - and you could only choose 1 of the 3. Who would you go with?
 
All I can say, is I saw Parks in person 3 times - he's arguable the best football player (skill position) I've seen in person on a high school football field. He was certainly the most electric. Total game breaker. Taking absolutely nothing away from Wright and Tucker, but I'd take Parks if I had to choose.

If you were building a high school team - and you could only choose 1 of the 3. Who would you go with?
Thanks for an honest response, we were all lucky to get to see all 3 of them in a conference as small as the PAC. What a great few years that was. Arguing who was better seems a bit foolish at this point. Due to my loyalties to Tre I would never let someone tell me he wasn't the best out of the three. I would probable feel the same as PArks and Wright if I was a supporter of Orrville and Manchester.
 
All I know is Marthey had three times as many rushing yards as Tucker in their last matchup at William E. Kurtz stadium in 2018, which resulted in a Mustangs win :). Thankfully for Tucker, the field conditions in the NFL should be slightly better than they were that night.

Also as a fun fact, this is the second consecutive year that a player from the PAC-7 has been drafted. Dominique Robinson, who played his first two years at Timken before the school merged with McKinley, was drafted by the Bears last season.
All I know is that my sons football cleets were no longer fit for use after that game. We left them at Kurtz in 2018.
 
All I know is Marthey had three times as many rushing yards as Tucker in their last matchup at William E. Kurtz stadium in 2018, which resulted in a Mustangs win :). Thankfully for Tucker, the field conditions in the NFL should be slightly better than they were that night.

Also as a fun fact, this is the second consecutive year that a player from the PAC-7 has been drafted. Dominique Robinson, who played his first two years at Timken before the school merged with McKinley, was drafted by the Bears last season.
They say games are won in the trenches. And what I remember from that night was the Royals’ makeshift defensive front blasted 10 yards down the field on every Tuslaw offensive play. It was a tough week, but credit to the Mustangs.

That’s not all that long ago, and it shows just how competitive this league has been - top to bottom - over the years.
 
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If it was a head to head matchup award you'd have a point, but it isn't. Kyle Snider was outrushed by Miraglia in their matchup this year? Should he have been the POTY?
Arguing who was better seems a bit foolish at this point.
All I can say, is I saw Parks in person 3 times - he's arguable the best football player (skill position) I've seen in person on a high school football field. He was certainly the most electric. Total game breaker.
I think we all agree that all three were great. Fair point about the head to head comparison.

I remember the first time I saw Parks. Circa 2015. Orrville came to CVCA for a middle school game. This dynamic kid touched the ball seven times. He scored seven times! As in … he was never tackled.

Oh, what could have been. I’m convinced the ability and God-given talent was there to make it to the NFL.

It’s been a fun run with all the exciting players in the league in recent years.
 
After hanging around here I have discovered that I would like to attend a game or two in the PAC. I am partial to smaller conferences as having seen Lake in the Senate league. Then when you posters talk games you are factual and polite...oh and quite funny. The other thread I follow and read you have to deal with schools who eventually start yelling at each other and then it ends up like it always does, a great waste of internet. It maybe sometime before I get to a game thou as I help with the Blue Streaks.
 
After hanging around here I have discovered that I would like to attend a game or two in the PAC. I am partial to smaller conferences as having seen Lake in the Senate league. Then when you posters talk games you are factual and polite...oh and quite funny. The other thread I follow and read you have to deal with schools who eventually start yelling at each other and then it ends up like it always does, a great waste of internet. It maybe sometime before I get to a game thou as I help with the Blue Streaks.

We have our moments in here but it ususally stays fairly civilized. If the thread gets to chummy I have been known to throw gasoline here and there.
 
@the123kidz out back behind PAC headquarters
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I think this is behind one of those fine establishments down in New Franklin.
This looks more like Brewster, where the ring of fire comes to life.

To add to the depth of running backs in the league at the same time, Fairless’s Shephard was the “4th” best in the league. Many other years, he would have been the top back.
I think Hunter Foster from Manchester, one tough-nosed kid, would have been in that 4th spot.
 
After hanging around here I have discovered that I would like to attend a game or two in the PAC. I am partial to smaller conferences as having seen Lake in the Senate league. Then when you posters talk games you are factual and polite...oh and quite funny. The other thread I follow and read you have to deal with schools who eventually start yelling at each other and then it ends up like it always does, a great waste of internet. It maybe sometime before I get to a game thou as I help with the Blue Streaks.
I'll do my best to get to one, maybe two, PAC games this season. Looking at what's available, possibilities in bold.

Canton South
09/08 H Orrville
09/15 H Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy
09/22 A Akron Manchester
09/29 A Wooster Triway
10/06 H Navarre Fairless
10/13 A Massillon Tuslaw
10/20 A Canal Fulton Northwest

CVCA
09/08 H Massillon Tuslaw
09/15 A Canton South
09/22 H Wooster Triway
09/29 A Navarre Fairless
10/06 H Canal Fulton Northwest
10/13 A Orrville
10/20 A Akron Manchester

Fairless
09/08 A Wooster Triway
09/15 H Canal Fulton Northwest
09/22 A Orrville
09/29 H Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy
10/06 A Canton South
10/13 H Akron Manchester
10/20 H Massillon Tuslaw

Manchester
09/08 H Canal Fulton Northwest
09/15 A Orrville
09/22 H Canton South
09/29 H Massillon Tuslaw
10/06 A Wooster Triway
10/13 A Navarre Fairless
10/20 H Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy

Northwest
09/08 A Akron Manchester
09/15 A Navarre Fairless
09/22 H Massillon Tuslaw

09/29 H Orrville
10/06 A Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy
10/13 H Wooster Triway
10/20 H Canton South

Orrville
09/08 A Canton South
09/15 H Akron Manchester
09/22 H Navarre Fairless
09/29 A Canal Fulton Northwest
10/06 A Massillon Tuslaw
10/13 H Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy
10/20 H Wooster Triway

Triway
09/08 H Navarre Fairless
09/15 A Massillon Tuslaw
09/22 A Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy
09/29 H Canton South
10/06 H Akron Manchester
10/13 A Canal Fulton Northwest
10/20 A Orrville

Tuslaw
09/08 A Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy
09/15 H Wooster Triway
09/22 A Canal Fulton Northwest

09/29 A Akron Manchester
10/06 H Orrville
10/13 H Canton South
10/20 A Navarre Fairless
 
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I'll do my best to get to one, maybe two, PAC games this season. Looking at what's available, possibilities in bold.

Canton South
09/08 H Orrville
09/15 H Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy
09/22 A Akron Manchester
09/29 A Wooster Triway
10/06 H Navarre Fairless
10/13 A Massillon Tuslaw
10/20 A Canal Fulton Northwest

CVCA
09/08 H Massillon Tuslaw
09/15 A Canton South
09/22 H Wooster Triway
09/29 A Navarre Fairless
10/06 H Canal Fulton Northwest
10/13 A Orrville
10/20 A Akron Manchester

Fairless
09/08 A Wooster Triway
09/15 H Canal Fulton Northwest
09/22 A Orrville
09/29 H Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy
10/06 A Canton South
10/13 H Akron Manchester
10/20 H Massillon Tuslaw

Manchester
09/08 H Canal Fulton Northwest
09/15 A Orrville
09/22 H Canton South
09/29 H Massillon Tuslaw
10/06 A Wooster Triway
10/13 A Navarre Fairless
10/20 H Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy

Northwest
09/08 A Akron Manchester
09/15 A Navarre Fairless
09/22 H Massillon Tuslaw

09/29 H Orrville
10/06 A Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy
10/13 H Wooster Triway
10/20 H Canton South

Orrville
09/08 A Canton South
09/15 H Akron Manchester
09/22 H Navarre Fairless
09/29 A Canal Fulton Northwest
10/06 A Massillon Tuslaw
10/13 H Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy
10/20 H Wooster Triway

Triway
09/08 H Navarre Fairless
09/15 A Massillon Tuslaw
09/22 A Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy
09/29 H Canton South
10/06 H Akron Manchester
10/13 A Canal Fulton Northwest
10/20 A Orrville

Tuslaw
09/08 A Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy
09/15 H Wooster Triway
09/22 A Canal Fulton Northwest

09/29 A Akron Manchester
10/06 H Orrville
10/13 H Canton South
10/20 A Navarre Fairless
I like the Northwest games...John's teams are always fun to watch...am pretty sure Louisville would re-think their decision of getting rid of him. We play Louisville 9/15...the last in the contract for this time...if history is a guide we will get them on the schedule again
 
I'll do my best to get to one, maybe two, PAC games this season. Looking at what's available, possibilities in bold.

Canton South
09/08 H Orrville
09/15 H Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy
09/22 A Akron Manchester
09/29 A Wooster Triway
10/06 H Navarre Fairless
10/13 A Massillon Tuslaw
10/20 A Canal Fulton Northwest

CVCA
09/08 H Massillon Tuslaw
09/15 A Canton South
09/22 H Wooster Triway
09/29 A Navarre Fairless
10/06 H Canal Fulton Northwest
10/13 A Orrville
10/20 A Akron Manchester

Fairless
09/08 A Wooster Triway
09/15 H Canal Fulton Northwest
09/22 A Orrville
09/29 H Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy
10/06 A Canton South
10/13 H Akron Manchester
10/20 H Massillon Tuslaw

Manchester
09/08 H Canal Fulton Northwest
09/15 A Orrville
09/22 H Canton South
09/29 H Massillon Tuslaw
10/06 A Wooster Triway
10/13 A Navarre Fairless
10/20 H Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy

Northwest
09/08 A Akron Manchester
09/15 A Navarre Fairless
09/22 H Massillon Tuslaw

09/29 H Orrville
10/06 A Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy
10/13 H Wooster Triway
10/20 H Canton South

Orrville
09/08 A Canton South
09/15 H Akron Manchester
09/22 H Navarre Fairless
09/29 A Canal Fulton Northwest
10/06 A Massillon Tuslaw
10/13 H Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy
10/20 H Wooster Triway

Triway
09/08 H Navarre Fairless
09/15 A Massillon Tuslaw
09/22 A Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy
09/29 H Canton South
10/06 H Akron Manchester
10/13 A Canal Fulton Northwest
10/20 A Orrville

Tuslaw
09/08 A Cuyahoga Falls Cuyahoga Valley Christian Academy
09/15 H Wooster Triway
09/22 A Canal Fulton Northwest

09/29 A Akron Manchester
10/06 H Orrville
10/13 H Canton South
10/20 A Navarre Fairless
Northwest @ Fairless probably the best game on your list.....
 
Thanks for an honest response, we were all lucky to get to see all 3 of them in a conference as small as the PAC. What a great few years that was. Arguing who was better seems a bit foolish at this point. Due to my loyalties to Tre I would never let someone tell me he wasn't the best out of the three. I would probable feel the same as PArks and Wright if I was a supporter of Orrville and Manchester.
Also I should note - I'm thinking strictly offensively. Northwest had Orrville beat at home in 2019 the year after the state title but could not stop Parks. I'd say there were probably 4 or 5 50+ yard TDs in that game where Parks was bottled up on one side of the field, slipped tackles and raced all the way to the other side of the field and broke free. Orrville 47 Northwest 43. The craziest part about Parks and Tucker espeically....these dudes were little. Parks was probably 5'6" or 5'7" at most....150 lbs....
 
Also I should note - I'm thinking strictly offensively. Northwest had Orrville beat at home in 2019 the year after the state title but could not stop Parks. I'd say there were probably 4 or 5 50+ yard TDs in that game where Parks was bottled up on one side of the field, slipped tackles and raced all the way to the other side of the field and broke free. Orrville 47 Northwest 43. The craziest part about Parks and Tucker espeically....these dudes were little. Parks was probably 5'6" or 5'7" at most....150 lbs....

Is that the infamous game at NW where the refs let Orrville play with 12 defenders for the last few plays that NW had the ball late?
 
A YG sighting! This is awesome!

For all the newer residents of this thread, YG stopping by is the equivalent of Pete Maravich or George Gervin stopping by the playground and saying "we go next." (Sorry for the dated reference)
Fun fact: My friend was the "Iceman" George Gervin's partner for a round of golf at a pro-am competition at the Fantasy Springs Casino Hotel in Palm Springs, CA. Then the next morning, my friend and I sat and had breakfast with George at the casino buffet. Really quiet and humble guy. All the other celebs were getting private meals, and here he was, sitting by himself at a table by the public casino buffet, so we joined him.

That same weekend, LaDainian Tomlinson had a horrible tee shot, and my friend and I were elbow-to-elbow with LT looking for his ball that had hit just behind us (well out of play, LoL). We never found it.

Also, the two of us found Charles Barkley by himself on an elliptical in the fitness room watching the NBA playoffs, so we hung out and chatted with him for a bit. Well, we mostly listened to him yelling at the TV.

Rode in the elevator with Michael Strahan and all the old Fox Sports "Best Damn Sports Show" guys.

Attended a VIP pool party with all the big names - John Elway, Ozzie Smith, Clyde Drexler, the All-State guy (Dennis Haysbert), Playboy models, and many others, along with Martin Short as the poolside entertainment.

Hung out in the pool with the owners of some of the largest online poker companies in the world, some of whom were not allowed in the U.S. due to breaking gambling laws but were there illegally anyway. Some of their gambling stories with A-list celebrities such as Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods were off the charts.

My friend won the trip playing online poker, and he took me with him, so I was just along for the ride. Haha! But still a great experience.
way to go kids GIF by Children's Miracle Network Hospitals


Curious of others' celebrity acquaintances!
 
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Fun fact: My friend was the "Iceman" George Gervin's partner for a round of golf at a pro-am competition at the Fantasy Springs Casino Hotel in Palm Springs, CA. Then the next morning, my friend and I sat and had breakfast with George at the casino buffet. Really quiet and humble guy. All the other celebs were getting private meals, and here he was, sitting by himself at a table by the public casino buffet, so we joined him.

That same weekend, LaDainian Tomlinson had a horrible tee shot, and my friend and I were elbow-to-elbow with LT looking for his ball that had hit just behind us (well out of play, LoL). We never found it.

Also, the two of us found Charles Barkley by himself on an elliptical in the fitness room watching the NBA playoffs, so we hung out and chatted with him for a bit. Well, we mostly listened to him yelling at the TV.

Rode in the elevator with Michael Strahan and all the old Fox Sports "Best Damn Sports Show" guys.

Attended a VIP pool party with all the big names - John Elway, Ozzie Smith, Clyde Drexler, the All-State guy (Dennis Haysbert), Playboy models, and many others, along with Martin Short as the poolside entertainment.

Hung out in the pool with the owners of some of the largest online poker companies in the world, some of whom were not allowed in the U.S. due to breaking gambling laws but were there illegally anyway. Some of their gambling stories with A-list celebrities such as Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods were off the charts.

My friend won the trip playing online poker, and he took me with him, so I was just along for the ride. Haha! But still a great experience.
way to go kids GIF by Children's Miracle Network Hospitals's Miracle Network Hospitals


Curious of others' celebrity acquaintances!
My list isn't the most famous or hottest, but here goes:

WJW Channel 8:

-I once saw Big Chuck riding a bicycle at Kelley's Island. Seemed standoffish.
-I observed Dick Goddard cussing like a sailor at an event. To hear that profanity in Goddard's voice was classic.

Columbus TV (if you are familiar):

-Dom Tiberi, Channel 10. Nice guy. Outgoing.
-Clay Hall, Channel 6. Great guy. I was working at an event with him and he jumped in to help out big time.
-Yolanda Harris, Channel 10. Seems a little out there, LOL.
-Mike Davis, formerly of Channel 10. He was not a nice guy and later got sent to the can for child porn. Awful.
-Terri Sullivan, Channel 6. Great person!

Politics:

-I met former Gov Bob Taft. Awful.
-My father once yelled DOWN IN FRONT very loudly at an Indians game at George Voinovich and Mayor Mike White (Cleveland). They kinda jumped, acted startled, and sat their asses down.
-I met former Congressman Jack Kemp. Awful.
-I met former Congressman Ralph Regula. OUTSTANDING. Good dude.
-State Rep Scott Oelslager. Awful.
-State Rep Kirk Schuring. Awful. Somethin' weird about that guy.
-Former Ohio House Speaker Larry Householder - yeah, the guy going to prison! He actually was a nice guy, LOL.
-Congressman Zack Space. OK. Kinda low key.
-Congressman Bob Ney - another one who went to prison....he was very MEH. Bland, low energy.
-Congressman Bob Gibbs. OK. Kinda low key.
-State Senator Jay Hottinger. Big time jabroni. DOLT.
-Former Hamilton County Prosecutor and now Ohio Supreme Court Justice Joe Deters. He was arrogant, disengaged. You sensed maybe he had a few too many.
-Former Congressman and Ohio Gov candidate Jim Renacci - very low energy. Aloof. No way that dude was gonna be elected governor.

Sports:

-Former Indians catcher Andy .225 Allanson from the 1986 Tribe at the Massillon Boys & Girls Club. Andy was not nice to a very young me and forever tainted my opinion of asking for autographs.

-Herb Score. About how you'd expect Herbie to be. Nice, professional, old school. Talked like a New Yawker.

-Earle Bruce when he was coaching the Cleveland arena football team. I felt sad for him; such a major coach in our world now resorting to being the coach of a crummy indoor football league team.

-Sparky Anderson. Polite.

-Jim Leyland. As you'd expect him to be. Nice enough guy, old school, oozed being a smoker. Meeting Leyland, you just wanted to light up a heater. Leyland said he and other Pirates would meet the Indians in the offseason and play golf. He liked the Legends golf course in Massillon. This was a long time ago. I betcha Leyland left lung darts all over that course.

-Kirk Herbstreit. Saw him on an airplane. All of the Buckeye fans kept badgering him for an autograph; I walked past him, cracked a joke, he laughed.

-Joe Tait. Everyone worshipped the ground he walked on, but I was kinda MEH about him. He was nice at the initial hello but you could clearly see he was kinda done with the NBA and really didn't care that much about the Cavaliers anymore.

-Former Cavalier Austin Carr. Nice guy!

-Stephanie Spielman - RIP - SUPER NICE PERSON! Enjoyed talking about growing up in Massillon/Stark County with her. That was easily 30 minutes or more of conversation.

-Former Bengals and Tampa Bay Bucs head coach Sam Wyche. THE BEST. 45 minutes of great conversation and maybe 5 minutes of it was about football. Coach Wyche had quite a career and life outside of football owning businesses, being a County Commissioner in South Carolina, being a cartoonist for several newspapers in the Carolinas, and overcoming his health problems.

Just a great, great guy no matter what the Cleveland media will tell you. Football wise, Coach Wyche in his famous "you don't live in Cleveland" moment in 1989 vs Seattle thought he was going to get fired after grabbing that microphone and yelling that into the microphone. But then he looked up at Paul Brown's box and the old coach was laughing his a*s off after it happened.

Coach Wyche also said he began tinkering with the no huddle offense when he was head coach at Indiana University in 1983. The Hoosiers went 3-8. They were 0-11 before Wyche. Paul Brown was watching it all from afar in Cincinnati in '83 and noticed.
 
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A YG sighting! This is awesome!

For all the newer residents of this thread, YG stopping by is the equivalent of Pete Maravich or George Gervin stopping by the playground and saying "we go next." (Sorry for the dated reference)
Wow... I remember Pete Maravich's dad.... Press Maravich...lol
 
My list isn't the most famous or hottest, but here goes:

WJW Channel 8:

-I once saw Big Chuck riding a bicycle at Kelley's Island. Seemed standoffish.
-I observed Dick Goddard cussing like a sailor at an event. To hear that profanity in Goddard's voice was classic.

Columbus TV (if you are familiar):

-Dom Tiberi, Channel 10. Nice guy. Outgoing.
-Clay Hall, Channel 6. Great guy. I was working at an event with him and he jumped in to help out big time.
-Yolanda Harris, Channel 10. Seems a little out there, LOL.
-Mike Davis, formerly of Channel 10. He was not a nice guy and later got sent to the can for child porn. Awful.
-Terri Sullivan, Channel 6. Great person!

Politics:

-I met former Gov Bob Taft. Awful.
-My father once yelled DOWN IN FRONT very loudly at an Indians game at George Voinovich and Mayor Mike White (Cleveland). They kinda jumped, acted startled, and sat their asses down.
-I met former Congressman Jack Kemp. Awful.
-I met former Congressman Ralph Regula. OUTSTANDING. Good dude.
-State Rep Scott Oelslager. Awful.
-State Rep Kirk Schuring. Awful. Somethin' weird about that guy.
-Former Ohio House Speaker Larry Householder - yeah, the guy going to prison! He actually was a nice guy, LOL.
-Congressman Zack Space. OK. Kinda low key.
-Congressman Bob Ney - another one who went to prison....he was very MEH. Bland, low energy.
-Congressman Bob Gibbs. OK. Kinda low key.
-State Senator Jay Hottinger. Big time jabroni. DOLT.
-Former Hamilton County Prosecutor and now Ohio Supreme Court Justice Joe Deters. He was arrogant, disengaged. You sensed maybe he had a few too many.
-Former Congressman and Ohio Gov candidate Jim Renacci - very low energy. Aloof. No way that dude was gonna be elected governor.

Sports:

-Former Indians catcher Andy .225 Allanson from the 1986 Tribe at the Massillon Boys & Girls Club. Andy was not nice to a very young me and forever tainted my opinion of asking for autographs.

-Herb Score. About how you'd expect Herbie to be. Nice, professional, old school. Talked like a New Yawker.

-Earle Bruce when he was coaching the Cleveland arena football team. I felt sad for him; such a major coach in our world now resorting to being the coach of a crummy indoor football league team.

-Sparky Anderson. Polite.

-Jim Leyland. As you'd expect him to be. Nice enough guy, old school, oozed being a smoker. Meeting Leyland, you just wanted to light up a heater. Leyland said he and other Pirates would meet the Indians in the offseason and play golf. He liked the Legends golf course in Massillon. This was a long time ago. I betcha Leyland left lung darts all over that course.

-Kirk Herbstreit. Saw him on an airplane. All of the Buckeye fans kept badgering him for an autograph; I walked past him, cracked a joke, he laughed.

-Joe Tait. Everyone worshipped the ground he walked on, but I was kinda MEH about him. He was nice at the initial hello but you could clearly see he was kinda done with the NBA and really didn't care that much about the Cavaliers anymore.

-Former Cavalier Austin Carr. Nice guy!

-Stephanie Spielman - RIP - SUPER NICE PERSON! Enjoyed talking about growing up in Massillon/Stark County with her. That was easily 30 minutes or more of conversation.

-Former Bengals and Tampa Bay Bucs head coach Sam Wyche. THE BEST. 45 minutes of great conversation and maybe 5 minutes of it was about football. Coach Wyche had quite a career and life outside of football owning businesses, being a County Commissioner in South Carolina, being a cartoonist for several newspapers in the Carolinas, and overcoming his health problems.

Just a great, great guy no matter what the Cleveland media will tell you. Football wise, Coach Wyche in his famous "you don't live in Cleveland" moment in 1989 vs Seattle thought he was going to get fired after grabbing that microphone and yelling that into the microphone. But then he looked up at Paul Brown's box and the old coach was laughing his a*s off after it happened.

Coach Wyche also said he began tinkering with the no huddle offense when he was head coach at Indiana University in 1983. The Hoosiers went 3-8. They were 0-11 before Wyche. Paul Brown was watching it all from afar in Cincinnati in '83 and noticed.
I met a lot of people....but I have one person who I will always remember, Marty Schottenhimer. I would be asked for his autograph all the time. Two fun moments...I drove about 25,000 miles a year..well I got caught for speeding on Rte 30...seeing I could schedule myself...I went to Massillon court and Roland Centrone found me guilty...6 months later I didn't realize I was in a school zone behind Doctor's Hospital...now had to go back and see Roland again....I had negotiated with a lawyer to have my speed reduced and pay a large fine. First question Roland asked me was that I looked familiar... I said I do?....he said yes..I said he may have seen me at Belden Village Mall...he went no...I then said that I worked all over and had he possible seen me enter any hospitals...he said no (now he has my record in front of him and it had only been 6 months that I was last in court in front him...but I was not going to admit that he just saw me...no way...lol)....I then looked at him and said well it must be this...people tell me I look like Marty Schottenhimer....the whole court room burst out with laughter, including him...he found me guilty, reduced my fine to $15.00, and told me not to come back again.

Second story...the Schottenhimers lived in McDonald Pa. My one Divisional Manager lived there. I had to go over and help our rep in Western Pa....my DM had me stop over for dinner. Well the way he positioned me in his house with the sun light coming thru a window and he knew Kurt Schottenhimer was home...he called him over..when he came in he stopped and saw me and just stood there...finally went and said if I didn't know my brother was in San Diego...he would have yelled at him for not stopping by the house first....lol. He is a great guy...never did get to meet Marty.
 
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One time at a regional meeting in Chicago, one of my co-workers pulled up a picture of Bill Belichick on her phone and she showed numerous people in our meeting room saying that "doesn't he (me) look like Belichick?"

Actually, my stoic scowl in those regional meetings was rather Belichickian.

Speaking of scowl, what's up with Orrville RR starting a separate Red Rider thread away from the greatness that IS this #PACtion thread? LOL.

Also, since Orrville RR is a famous person in the hallowed dining room of Dravenstott's, please keep the PACtion going with famous or semi famous people. We have found forum gold!

GOLD, JERRY!

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My list isn't the most famous or hottest, but here goes:

WJW Channel 8:

-I once saw Big Chuck riding a bicycle at Kelley's Island. Seemed standoffish.
-I observed Dick Goddard cussing like a sailor at an event. To hear that profanity in Goddard's voice was classic.

Columbus TV (if you are familiar):

-Dom Tiberi, Channel 10. Nice guy. Outgoing.
-Clay Hall, Channel 6. Great guy. I was working at an event with him and he jumped in to help out big time.
-Yolanda Harris, Channel 10. Seems a little out there, LOL.
-Mike Davis, formerly of Channel 10. He was not a nice guy and later got sent to the can for child porn. Awful.
-Terri Sullivan, Channel 6. Great person!

Politics:

-I met former Gov Bob Taft. Awful.
-My father once yelled DOWN IN FRONT very loudly at an Indians game at George Voinovich and Mayor Mike White (Cleveland). They kinda jumped, acted startled, and sat their asses down.
-I met former Congressman Jack Kemp. Awful.
-I met former Congressman Ralph Regula. OUTSTANDING. Good dude.
-State Rep Scott Oelslager. Awful.
-State Rep Kirk Schuring. Awful. Somethin' weird about that guy.
-Former Ohio House Speaker Larry Householder - yeah, the guy going to prison! He actually was a nice guy, LOL.
-Congressman Zack Space. OK. Kinda low key.
-Congressman Bob Ney - another one who went to prison....he was very MEH. Bland, low energy.
-Congressman Bob Gibbs. OK. Kinda low key.
-State Senator Jay Hottinger. Big time jabroni. DOLT.
-Former Hamilton County Prosecutor and now Ohio Supreme Court Justice Joe Deters. He was arrogant, disengaged. You sensed maybe he had a few too many.
-Former Congressman and Ohio Gov candidate Jim Renacci - very low energy. Aloof. No way that dude was gonna be elected governor.

Sports:

-Former Indians catcher Andy .225 Allanson from the 1986 Tribe at the Massillon Boys & Girls Club. Andy was not nice to a very young me and forever tainted my opinion of asking for autographs.

-Herb Score. About how you'd expect Herbie to be. Nice, professional, old school. Talked like a New Yawker.

-Earle Bruce when he was coaching the Cleveland arena football team. I felt sad for him; such a major coach in our world now resorting to being the coach of a crummy indoor football league team.

-Sparky Anderson. Polite.

-Jim Leyland. As you'd expect him to be. Nice enough guy, old school, oozed being a smoker. Meeting Leyland, you just wanted to light up a heater. Leyland said he and other Pirates would meet the Indians in the offseason and play golf. He liked the Legends golf course in Massillon. This was a long time ago. I betcha Leyland left lung darts all over that course.

-Kirk Herbstreit. Saw him on an airplane. All of the Buckeye fans kept badgering him for an autograph; I walked past him, cracked a joke, he laughed.

-Joe Tait. Everyone worshipped the ground he walked on, but I was kinda MEH about him. He was nice at the initial hello but you could clearly see he was kinda done with the NBA and really didn't care that much about the Cavaliers anymore.

-Former Cavalier Austin Carr. Nice guy!

-Stephanie Spielman - RIP - SUPER NICE PERSON! Enjoyed talking about growing up in Massillon/Stark County with her. That was easily 30 minutes or more of conversation.

-Former Bengals and Tampa Bay Bucs head coach Sam Wyche. THE BEST. 45 minutes of great conversation and maybe 5 minutes of it was about football. Coach Wyche had quite a career and life outside of football owning businesses, being a County Commissioner in South Carolina, being a cartoonist for several newspapers in the Carolinas, and overcoming his health problems.

Just a great, great guy no matter what the Cleveland media will tell you. Football wise, Coach Wyche in his famous "you don't live in Cleveland" moment in 1989 vs Seattle thought he was going to get fired after grabbing that microphone and yelling that into the microphone. But then he looked up at Paul Brown's box and the old coach was laughing his a*s off after it happened.

Coach Wyche also said he began tinkering with the no huddle offense when he was head coach at Indiana University in 1983. The Hoosiers went 3-8. They were 0-11 before Wyche. Paul Brown was watching it all from afar in Cincinnati in '83 and noticed.
Dom Tiberi’s an OG. Mike Kallmeyer, of the former Ohio News Network, is also pretty great.

Troy Smith popped into my box suite in between the Defiance/Cleveland Central Catholic (IYKYK) and Wayne/Westerville South title games at The ‘Schott. Really nice guy, friendly. I didn’t even recognize it was him!

Here’s one I’m proud of, and feel compelled to share: Richard Cordray… and, no, it was not on the campaign trail! Spring of 2017, I’m reading at States for academic challenge (the broader statewide activity that was condensed and made-for-TV in the form of the WEWS program of the same name.) His son played for Central Crossing. CC is in my room, and Dad’s in the back of the room being Average Joe. Very polite guy — his mannerisms and form of polite is sorta in the vein of ‘reserved, Southern gentleman’ (without the accent of course.) I didn’t try to talk political shop with him; only that I thanked him for coming to watch his kid play. And, yes, son lived up to his daddy’s prowess on the buzzer in the game I had. 😤
 
Feeling kinda embarrassed by all the high falutentness being shared on this thread. The only encounter I can remember is walking through Minneapolis airport in the early 90's and seeing Ric Flair heading the opposite direction. Not being totally sure I said "You gotta beat the man" loud enough for him to hear. He never turned around but he did let out his famous "WOOOOOO" as he walked the other way.

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