OHSAA looking at Massillon transfer app

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OBIE-WON-PIEROGI said:
Copley instigated the CRIMINAL PROSECUTION which resulted in JAIL TIME for a mother who said her child was living with grandparents in the Copley-Fairlawn district.
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Mother and her father were found guilty. This isn't the wild, wild west, schools have enough of a hard time with funding. If they would have allowed that where would it end?
 
Oil Filter said:
Owens transferred to Massillon in February. It is almost October. Perhaps OHSAA could be more forthcoming about why the paperwork still hasn't been reviewed and ruled upon. Was it not submitted in a timely manner? Is it somehow inadequate? Is OHSAA that inefficient? Is OHSAA incompetent? Or would this be deliberate?
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Alex, All of the above for $100
 
The amount of loopholes that schools all across the state take advantage of and this is the one they come after because it’s massilon? The fact that this is being looked into more than glenville using a loop hole to have a 0 CB is absurd. Let the kid play and move on. This should have been closed before the season started
 
330Football said:
The amount of loopholes that schools all across the state take advantage of and this is the one they come after because it’s massilon? The fact that this is being looked into more than glenville using a loop hole to have a 0 CB is absurd. Let the kid play and move on. This should have been closed before the season started
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It may have something to do with Massillon being a repeat offender. I have no dislike for Massillon but their name is mentioned a lot for possible violations during football season.
 
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spirit454 said:
IT may have something to do with Massillon being a repeat offender. I have no dislike for Massillon but their name is mentioned a lot for possible violations during football season.
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Fwiw Massillon has not been mentioned for any possible violation. Unless you mean by trolls then yes.

In any case that justifies finding some technicality (and that form is ridiculous) to punish a senior vying for college offers by ending his season? Ok that'll show 'em.
 
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From the form: (NOTE: In the event any family household possessions remain at the former residence or any family member has personal responsibilities at the former residence, explain in detail the reasons and circumstances on a separate sheet of paper.)

Now for anyone who has ever moved. Explain, *in detail, *any, possessions at former residence or personal responsibilities at former residence? So if you forget to mention a bicycle or some yard equipment or a clothes dresser, could that be ruled a violation??? Is that necessary? I mean what is the actual intent here, to trip people up?
 
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TigerPaw said:
Fwiw Massillon has not been mentioned for any possible violation. Unless you mean by trolls then yes.

In any case that justifies finding some technicality (and that form is ridiculous) to punish a senior vying for college by ending his season? Ok that'll show 'em.
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Wasn't Mumford looked at, didn't the Beachwood kids sit a game? Actually not sure just asking?
 
13. I am not attempting to establish residence at the current resident address in order to avoid paying tuition to attend the public school to which the current resident address is assigned, nor am I attempting to establish residence at the current resident address in order to circumvent any of the Bylaws or rules of the Ohio High School Athletic Association. ______ (Initials of Affiant)

Also someone please explain this one. This is forbidden? I thought that's what they wanted? Am I misunderstanding???
 
bass10 said:
Wasn't Mumford looked at, didn't the Beachwood kids sit a game? Actually not sure just asking?
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Not going to rehash the Mumford Moore personal relationship but Beachwood case is actually similar. Somebody complained a year after the fact so they sat while OHSAA re-reviewed their transfer paperwork. Everything checked out and they finished the season.
 
TigerPaw said:
Not going to rehash the Mumford Moore personal relationship but Beachwood case is actually similar. Somebody complained a year after the fact so they sat while OHSAA re-reviewed their transfer paperwork. Everything checked out and they finished the season.
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Not wanting to rehash but stating it has come up before and not just by trolls?
 
I would be curious to know when the app is submitted does the Ohsaa give feedback whether it’s a yay or a nay? If not or if they do and they didn’t, shouldn’t we be reaching out and asking if we are good to go?
 
Not bashing Massillon, just saying. If anyone should have the transfer rules mastered and fully understood it would be them? No?
 
John Lee Pettimore said:
But....but....but....his nephew
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Bluestreakoffice said:
I think there may be a bigger issue then the paperwork for the transfer....this is just what I am thinking could be the issue...he was living in Akron all along...gave Copley a bad address...because he was on the football team, Copley didn't do a thorough investigation...now here is where it gets sticky ( I also could be wrong) Copley received state funds for a kid that didn't belong to them...should have went to Akron...the transfer investigation tripped this....so who is at fault and who does Copley have to pay back...if the kid lied about his address to Copley...who is at fault..Copley or the kid...transfers to Massillon...is there a possible eligibility issue to the fact that he played at a school and should not have and now he is playing at another school when he may have screwed his eligibility up while at Copley without a valid residency.....As said earlier Copley is non open enrollment and they do not accept tuition....is there solid verification that he and his family were living in Akron and not Copley? If they have solid info that they were living in Copley then my theory is not valid...I have heard that the kid in question has retained a lawyer

Have to add this as an edit...is there any info that Moore as the AD knew this info about residency concerns with Copley and Akron...( once again if there is residency concerns...I am just surmising some of this)..and may have slow played the transfer paperwork
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Speculation leads to more misinformation than fact.
 
TigerPaw said:
13. I am not attempting to establish residence at the current resident address in order to avoid paying tuition to attend the public school to which the current resident address is assigned, nor am I attempting to establish residence at the current resident address in order to circumvent any of the Bylaws or rules of the Ohio High School Athletic Association. ______ (Initials of Affiant)

Also someone please explain this one. This is forbidden? I thought that's what they wanted? Am I misunderstanding???
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No. The OHSAA doesn’t want people moving just for athletics. The phrase they use is “the move precipitates the transfer, the transfer should not precipitate the move.”
 
1. It’s not the OHSAA’s business why any family decides to move or send their kid to a specific school.

2. Why isn’t athletics an acceptable reason? Many student athletes use athletics as a way to get scholarships into college when otherwise they would not be able to afford it.

The OHSAA is basically the NCAA…an organization that holds no real power but rules with an iron fist in an attempt to keep up the perception that that are in control.
 
TigerPaw said:
Fwiw Massillon has not been mentioned for any possible violation. Unless you mean by trolls then yes.

In any case that justifies finding some technicality (and that form is ridiculous) to punish a senior vying for college offers by ending his season? Ok that'll show 'em.
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Massillon football passes across the desks of OHSAA fairly regular. Doesn't mean they have been found of violations but the talk is there regularly.

Hope this situation gets taken care of and the kid can play.
 
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hammer89 said:
No. The OHSAA doesn’t want people moving just for athletics. The phrase they use is “the move precipitates the transfer, the transfer should not precipitate the move.”
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That does not say or ask anything about the reason for the move(?). And if it is for athletics, so what, what is the point of asking people to lie? And how would they prove that anyhow? Just absurd.
 
hammer89 said:
No. The OHSAA doesn’t want people moving just for athletics. The phrase they use is “the move precipitates the transfer, the transfer should not precipitate the move.”
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What OHSAA wants is not relevant; they have no moral authority to stand in judgement of why and where a family moves or educates its children. At some point, they're going to push their authoritarian impulses too far.
 
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330Football said:
The amount of loopholes that schools all across the state take advantage of and this is the one they come after because it’s massilon? The fact that this is being looked into more than glenville using a loop hole to have a 0 CB is absurd. Let the kid play and move on. This should have been closed before the season started
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Didnt see anybody in street clothes at Bump Taylor field on Friday unlike other schools both private and public alike 😉
 
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