Yup-- Wyoming wins a higher percentage of its HS football games than Massillon Washington does-- Wyoming has won 752 and lost 221-- for a winning percentage of 77.287% for Wyoming-- Massillon Washington has won 932 and lost 298-- for a winning percentage of 75.772%... in every math book you can find, 77.287% is HIGHER than 75.772%... I know it's hard for you to grasp, with your Massillon Washington education--but it's the truth-- THEM's the facts.
LOL. Let’s see how these numbers will be twisted.
Fans across the country followed Major League Baseball teams from far away-- there were Brooklyn Dodger fans all across the south, because of Jackie Robinson-- black fans would come into both Cincinnati and St. Louis on trains in huge numbers to see the Dodgers face the Reds and Cards, when the Dodgers were in town... Likewise, there were Yankee fans all across the country in those days-- I worked for one, who grew up in Iowa and Minnesota.
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Not sure where you found that stat-- I looked for it, but was only able to get data from 2004-- including from the OHSAA site and MaxPreps.
It only supports my argument even more strongly that there are no missing games or seasons in Wyoming's overall all-time HS football record.
You cant even give Wyoming the credit for having a higher winning percentage than Massillon. Most people will tell you that a higher winning percentage over a fair minimum number of games is more impressive than total wins. Especially when one team has been playing for 60 years more than the other. Three things I’d bet on
Try to dispute them.
My own data. Data that I created originally from the link that @pcbuck
provided, then a lot of online/library research for the '80s-90s for which OHSAA doesn't have detailed data, such as who lost when in the playoffs.
Actually Wyoming started football in 1919, according to that 100th Anniversary story-- but still, that gives Massillon Washington an extra 29 years more than Wyoming of playing interscholastic HS football-- so, it's not at all surprising that Massillon Washington has won more total games than Wyoming has-- Massillon Washington has simply won those games at a lower (slower) rate than Wyoming does-- Massillon emphasizes quantity over quality-- kind of like the Russian and Chinese armies do, whereas the US armed forces emphasize quality over quantity...Crimson and Clover—-I see you flunked math. Wyoming started football in 1918. The Tigers started in 1891. Yet, you posted the difference was 60 years. Great math. This sounds like 4GX’s numbers. Again, one of your purposes on Yappi is to discredit Massillon. Whatever things you post, it won’t change these numbers: 6-41-3.
I tried to look up CAPE's record-- but I couldn't find aggregate data for the "school"-- I know that CAPE won at least 3 state championships-- and existed for around ~20 years-- but there is not exactly a robust alumni association for CAPE, posting information about it.
Thanks for that info on Wyoming's playoff record through 2017-- I was trying to approximate (from memory) how many playoff games Wyoming had played pre-2004 (which is when MaxPreps picks up the narrative)... I know that Wyoming had at least 4 playoff games very early on (runner-up in 1975, champs in 1977), but then between 1980-2003, I was working from my best recollection-- I obviously undercounted by about ~10 playoff games-- but you filled in the blanks for me... It allowed me to disprove the claim that Wyoming was failing to include ~12-13 years of football results in its overall record.My own data. Data that I created originally from the link that @pcbuck
Also, I haven't looked at the latest file available from the OHSAA, but the one I used to start my data in 2020 had a few errors in it.
I'm not sure where the data is coming from on that first line in your attached exhibit-- I have Wyoming at 738-221-48 (for a winning percentage of either 76.955% excluding ties, or 73.287% including ties), through 2021-- for a total of 1007 games through 2021 (and then 14-0 so far in 2022, for a total of 1021 games all-time, so far).
South Range has to be the most “under the radar” powerhouse in Ohio. All they do is win!!!
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Wyoming doesn't even play the level of schools that the top teams in Div. IV play, let alone the top teams in higher divisions...
Wow, I'm impressed with how quickly you got the data out there. I am impressed, BUT I'm gonna have to call in to question the validity of the data you used! You see, you have Wyoming all the way down there at 23rd with only a 59% winning percentage! What your data clearly fails to illustrate is that Wyoming didn't start their football program until 1930, and when they celebrated their 100 years of football in 2018, it really wasn't their 100 year anniversary since they really didn't start their program until 1919 and the fact that a lot of these other programs started their programs in the late 1800's provides them with an unfair advantage in preparing for the days when playoffs become relevant. So subsequently the data needs to be normalized to adjust for the unfair advantage of these other older schools starting their programs much earlier. So if the numbers are PROPERLY done, you'd see that Wyoming is actually sitting in first place with a winning percentage of 88.72%
First, somebody here said that MLB had no following nationally until the latter part of the 20th Century-- that was flatly wrong-- 1947 is the first half of the 20th Century... But, in the 1920's and 1930's, fans used to take trains into the cities like St. Louis, Cincinnati, and Chicago, from all over the South and Midwest, to see the MLB (and Negro League) teams play in those cities (there were two MLB teams in St. Louis and Chicago then); my Dad talked about seeing the fans streaming off of trains at Cincinnati's Union Terminal to go to the games (within 5 minutes walk) at Crosley Field-- before WWII. Then, in the off-season, most of the big name MLB players did barnstorming tours (often with Negro League players like Satchel Paige and Josh Gibson) across the country, to all sorts of burgs (big and small)-- that's how/why Babe Ruth was the biggest sports star in America from the early 1920's to the late 1930's.
Wyoming's current league is very weak; however, when Wyoming had its best teams (in the days preceding the OHSAA playoffs-- they had a team in the 1960's that was unbeaten and unscored upon), they played in a MUCH better league, against MUCH bigger schools.
Thanks, I'll add that into the table-- I think that's Top Ten...
