Ohio State v Michigan

Ohio State v Michigan

  • Michigan +14 or more

    Votes: 5 13.5%

  • Michigan +7

    Votes: 8 21.6%

  • Michigan +3

    Votes: 3 8.1%

  • Ohio State +3

    Votes: 5 13.5%

  • Ohio State +7

    Votes: 11 29.7%

  • Ohio State +14 or more

    Votes: 5 13.5%
  • Total voters
    37
simkon said:
Is there anyone that did not have a rooting interest in this game that could give their opinion of what they thought of the officiating?
I myself thought Michgan got a lot of favorable spots, there were times they only got a half yard and they gave them like 2 or 3, runs for no gain or a loss and they get a yard.
Then just a lot of bad calls throughout the game. OSU got perhaps one favorable call at the end on the catch that was fumbled and then recovered, that might have been borderline.
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Not sure I saw that. Sure I saw michigan’s d and o lines push OSU around in the last couple of drives when it mattered most.
 
Ryan Day is terrible as a HC. He is the Joe Biden/Barack Obama of college football. He has single handily destroyed the Buckeyes program and it take decades to rebuild it
 
Stirred not Shaken said:
TTUN passed for 182 yds. 34 yds. on a half back pass yet scores 30 pts. and OSU defense never stopped TTUN once in the 2nd half. Again the 5 DB defense is good against spread teams but not so much vs running teams. That and the special teams were not good my guess is Knowles job is safe, but Fleming will be the sacrificial lamb that gets the axe.
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Fleming needed to be gone yesterday.

There's zero reason to have a full-time coach whose only responsibility is the special teams, and for them to suck this bad year-to-year with repeatedly spotty execution.
 
OSU hasn’t been a well coached total unit since the Tressel days. Problem with Tressel is he didn’t recruit elite enough to beat the best teams. He was starting to recruit a little better towards the end before he was fired though.
Urban turned around the recruiting but wasn’t quite as good as a coach. Ryan Day is just like Urban but much less when it comes to the coach. Each coach at OSU has gotten worse
 
My one friend who is a Tenessee Volunteers fan and is a former official kept a tally on spots and borderline calls. This is what he said to me a few minutes ago
Spots that gave the team on offense 1 or more yards than what they actually gained
Michigan-15
Ohio State-2
Spots that gave the team on offense 1 or more yards less than what they actually gained
Michigan-1
Ohio State-7
Various borderline calls or non-calls to go in one teams favor
Michigan-8
Ohio State-2

He also said that Michigan committed a few other penalties like illegal substitution that went unnoticed and had 12 men on the field for one play, granted the 12th man only had one foot inbounds on the field when the ball was snapped he said so it didn't really affect the outcome of the play.

*Note this is irrespective of who the better team was or who deserved to win, just a combination of facts and opinions as it pertained to the officiating.

It seems to me that Michigan won on account of good fortune, favorable officiating, the 2 interceptions and the missed FG. Quite a few of Michigan's passes seemed to be ill advised and they were lucky they were completed rather than intercepted, it wasn't so much skill as it was luck in my opinion.
 
nupanther said:
Michigan IMO opinion has shown who they truly are these past two weeks after Staliongate. 1st they break their long streak of scoring at least 30 points against Penn St. Then they struggled against a team that lost 4 out of their last 5 games. A team that the Buckeyes beat by 20. JJ McCarthy did NOT look good at all today. And Ill take a healthy Henderson over Corum any day of the week. Amazing how OSU running woes decrease when Treyveon is fully healthy and making defenders miss.
No Harbaugh, no advanced knowledge, no 3 game winning streak for the Wolverines
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Ah, final score was ?
 
Spartacus1987 said:
OSU hasn’t been a well coached total unit since the Tressel days. Problem with Tressel is he didn’t recruit elite enough to beat the best teams. He was starting to recruit a little better towards the end before he was fired though.
Urban turned around the recruiting but wasn’t quite as good as a coach. Ryan Day is just like Urban but much less when it comes to the coach. Each coach at OSU has gotten worse
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I mostly agree with this, but I think the talent level and recruiting in general started to slide towards the end of the Tressel era. By far his best recruiting class was in 2002 (Clarett, Mangold, Troy Smith, Santonio Holmes, Hawk, Carpenter, Pitcock, etc.). That class was jacked on in-state talent and carried much of his tenure with select studs (many developmental successes like Laurinaitis, Malcolm Jenkins, Youbouty, etc.) sprinkled in the classes from 03-05. His classes at the end kind of sucked whether small in numbers or big on busts (either 2008 or 2009).

Ryan Day hasn't missed a beat IMO in terms of recruiting, but there has been an enormous fall off in special teams from the Urban and Tressel eras. The defense has improved a lot this year, but probably couple in part with changes in college offenses it is not what it once was.
 
To all the Ohio fans who are disappointed by today's outcome and feel cheated, infuriated, and letdown by the system, my advice to you is to travel.

Travel to Europe. Travel to Asia. Travel to Africa. There is a world beyond your one-stoplight town and Dollywood and Sarasota.

Meet new people. Gain new perspectives. The world laughs at you but there is a way to be good again.
 
Chop Stix said:
To all the Ohio fans who are disappointed by today's outcome and feel cheated, infuriated, and letdown by the system, my advice to you is to travel.

Travel to Europe. Travel to Asia. Travel to Africa. There is a world beyond your one-stoplight town and Dollywood and Sarasota.

Meet new people. Gain new perspectives. The world laughs at you but there is a way to be good again.
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FU
 
if they fired Day whose next?

point blank Buckeyes had an opportunity and didn’t meet the mark. Blame Day or McCord, or both. The point is, that team showed their moxy and the buckeyes blew it.
 
Coopers last year at OSU was 8 - 4, Day is better than Cooper. Day needs a D coach that can stop the other team so his offense can score pts. My biggest gripe with Day is that OSU relies on its talent too much to win games instead of doing everything the right way. Punter who can flip the field and pin teams inside the 10 yd. line. Kickers who can make big kicks in tight games, small things that add up in tight game. Day needs to pay more attention to detail.
 
Game team stats

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Three key stats: time of possession, 4th down conversions, turnovers, all in Michigan's favor.

That and Michigan dominated the line of scrimmage 7 of the last 8 minutes of the fourth quarter.
 
yeh key stats…

for me the Buckeyes got behind and played from behind all game. Never really targeted a Marv down the field, never really stretched the field either. No trust in McCord or the o-line to hold up. Had Henderson run between the tackles too much. a lot of talented buckeyes with no wins against Michigan, such a sour taste.
 
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