WJ-OSU-STEELERS
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UM needs it, their QB’s were horrid in 2024. Strong finish to the season in beating OSU & Alabama.
We will see how the new coach does with in being 2 years removed from Harbaugh.
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UM needs it, their QB’s were horrid in 2024. Strong finish to the season in beating OSU & Alabama.
We will see how the new coach does with in being 2 years removed from Harbaugh.
Orin Swift
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A huge upgrade from 2024 doesn’t make him solid. As a reminder, he couldn’t cut it at high-mid major UCF so he transferred to mid-major Fresno State and threw just 18 touchdowns and 11 interceptions and less than 250 yards per game as a 4th year player. Don’t even try to argue he didn’t thrown more because Fresno State had a run game - they averaged 106 yards per game as a team.
He isnt very good when playing against the likes of Northern Illinois, Colorado State, Hawaii, Air Force or UNLV. He isn’t going to magically become good when playing better teams next year.
bob99
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And the best team in the country would have been left out.
bkmk1
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Because they didn't earn their way in. You get in by earning it on the field. On the field they did not do enough to make a 4 team playoff. Lost AT home to an unranked Michigan team as a 20+ point favorite. Couldn't even make their conference championship game. Had 2 losses. All 3 of those criteria based on a 4 team playoff, justifies them NOT getting in. 12 is B.S. And expansion IS THE ONLY REASON they got in.
Orin Swift
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Unluckily for you, 12 teams get in now. Keep crying though!
Orin Swift
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My mother would be an upgrade.
TTUN whiffed on a couple of portal OL and they need a little help there. What's worse than starting a true frosh QB, even if he is a stud? Starting him with an iffy line in front of him.
at least $10 million more then 2024!!!
bkmk1
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That $10 million still does not guarantee that Underwood starts week one. What is guarantees is Michigan will have some great quality competition at QB. Something they did NOT have last year and still beat the suckeyes.
bkmk1
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They are pretty set at QB with Keene and Underwood. The OL will be better than last year. And even better, the DL may be the best DL Michigan has had even over the last 3-4 years. It will be solid and 3 deep. Here comes more Michigan physicality and we all know osu does not like that and can not handle that. Add in the 2 STUD RB's Michigan will have. And the suckeyes lost a TON!!!
Bengal WhoDey
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And yet Michigan will be on the couch watching OSU in the playoffs again. Sucks to be you
bkmk1
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Don't bet your house, you won't have a place to live. The suckeyes will be getting their 5th straight loss to "THE" Michigan Wolverines. They will watch Michigan play for the Big10 trophy again. Michigan will make the playoffs. If the suckeyes make it, it will be because they take 12 again. They would have NO shot if they took 4. And they will be soft as always, and Michigan will physically handle them like has become a yearly event. .
Orin Swift
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Hilarious considering Michigan had no shot at making the playoffs this year despite them expanding to 12 teams. In fact, they weren’t even in the conversation as the first 4 out. Embarrassing. Almost as embarrassing as you still crying about it, nearly 2 full months after the playoff teams were announced.
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If Day doesn't have a brain fart and JJ Smiths TTUN, after the Buckeyes beat the snot out of them, no one will be calling them soft. Well, you might, but...
Yes, that D line is an essential part of TTUN's culture and identity and they are very good at recruiting and developing players toward it. But those DL can't cover receivers. Lol.
One thing I would caution you about is assuming that because something that has been true, it will remain to be true. The inverse is also true. Ryan Day can't win a big game - until he wins 4 of them in a row and the national championship. College football teams change from year to year in terms of personnel and how coaches use what they have. Sometimes a guy looks the part and has maybe flashed potential, but when he has to do it himself, he doesn't. Sometimes certain combinations don't work. Sometimes you have a unit without a single leader.
I have noticed that TTUN fans think Harbaugh/Moore have broken the code on sustaining culture, and that things will just remain the same. Culture is more fragile than that. They have done a great job across two coaches at sustaining it. Moore held that team together and kept true to their identity this year. I thought it was going to get 5-7 ugly, but they got better the second half of the season. But that culture and identity will end. May it be in 2025.
Orin Swift
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I will repeat: The Ohio State Buckeyes are NATIONAL CHAMPIONS! And the hurt soft bkmk1 is just really having a hard time coping. Seek help.
Cedar_Point
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Does this rimjob not realize Ohio State won the first 4 team playoff? Does this rimjob not realize Ohio State has 3 national titles this century compared to one with an asterisk that scum has?
Costa
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Until Underwood portals to an actual contender. And Michigan still sucks.
I think Underwood made a great decision to reject the dysfunction at LSU. Brian Kelly has some weird voodoo going on down there.
The question is whether he has placed himself into a place where some developing dysfunction is happening. Until the consequences of the sign stealing stuff are known, players are going to be unsure about what that program can be.
But if the culture remains strong there, and TTUN is able to continue to bring in the players it needs, they will be OK. But I looked at them whiffing on the 2 OL guys they targeted who went to Indiana and Nebraska, and it made me wonder if that is an example of the players not being sure of what the cost will be for 6 level 1 violations. But the NCAA has become a toothless tiger, so maybe TTUN will escape the worst case scenario.
But I'm getting the sense that TTUN is going to be where the NCAA re-asserts it's enforcement authority. After all, if it doesn't, it might as well cease to exist.
But Underwood can be the home state kid that leads the premier state school back to glory, and he will make a lot of money just based on that potential. The question will be if he will have enough dudes around him to do that. If the penalties are severe and announced before May, the next portal will be brutal for them - and him.
The question is whether he has placed himself into a place where some developing dysfunction is happening. Until the consequences of the sign stealing stuff are known, players are going to be unsure about what that program can be.
But if the culture remains strong there, and TTUN is able to continue to bring in the players it needs, they will be OK. But I looked at them whiffing on the 2 OL guys they targeted who went to Indiana and Nebraska, and it made me wonder if that is an example of the players not being sure of what the cost will be for 6 level 1 violations. But the NCAA has become a toothless tiger, so maybe TTUN will escape the worst case scenario.
But I'm getting the sense that TTUN is going to be where the NCAA re-asserts it's enforcement authority. After all, if it doesn't, it might as well cease to exist.
But Underwood can be the home state kid that leads the premier state school back to glory, and he will make a lot of money just based on that potential. The question will be if he will have enough dudes around him to do that. If the penalties are severe and announced before May, the next portal will be brutal for them - and him.
bob99
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Best post about the cheating scandal. The two possible outcomes. The NCAA is losing more control everyday. They are a shell of their former self. If they want to show they still have some control, the Michigan scandal is the perfect crime to do it. There is no defense for what Michigan did. Michigan has admitted they are guilty. They should have extra points added to their indiscretions for being so stupid.
Stirred not Shaken
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LOL, no. Wink Martindale got ran out of Baltimore, then by the Giants nobody else in the NFL wanted him that's why he ended up at SCUM. Joe Burrow wishes Wink was still the Ravens DC. We will see how he does this year without Graham, Grant, and Stewart, my guess considering his past history not too good.
Coach Moore's explanation of the deleted text messages between he and CS was hilarious. Does anyone outside of the Go Blue booster club believe that? Lol. I kinda admire the intelligence required to conjure a credible lie, but bad liars insult my intelligence - as low of a bar that is.
I will say that the NCAA backed off their Tennessee and LSU issues, so maybe thats a positive sign for TTUN and they will do nothing.
If they do nothing, then it's the wild west because if you have rules, but they aren't enforced, you have, effectively, no rules at all.
But if that happens, let it be written that it was those arrogant bastards at that SUN that broke the system with its lawlessness.
bkmk1
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I'm pretty sure he was the DC this year when "THE" Michigan Wolverines held the charmin soft suckeyes to 10 points. And you will see that the Michigan DL will be equal to or better than last years. That does not bode well for the suckeye soft OL and who ever they put under center. It all equals to 5 straight.
Orin Swift
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Rent. Free.
WJ-OSU-STEELERS
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So you believe UM will replace a Top 6 DT and another projected 1st rd pick in this years NDL draft and be equal to or better at the DL in 2025.
It could happen, maybe you can find a Vegas prop bet on it.
bkmk1
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I do. I have seen the 2-3 deep lineup. It is solid. They will be a handful and a gauntlet.
Orin Swift
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Went from better than 2 first round picks to solid in 2 posts, boy you backtracked quick
WJ-OSU-STEELERS
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And just how many 1st round DT draft picks has UM had over the last 5 year or 10 years? Or, what school has the most 1st round DT’s over the last 5 or 10 years?
Reality vs fandom - there is a difference. UM Dline may be good next year and maybe they will be equal to but to imply they may be better……very, very unlikely.
bkmk1
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I guess you will just have to wait and watch. Then in November in Ann Arbor the suckleyes will feel the Michigan DL presence once again.
Gbulldog
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Bkmk1 beleives it.
WJ-OSU-STEELERS
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UM could beat OSU again but the UM Dline being equal to or better in 2025 than 2024 - very, very unlikely.
Looks like your Fresno St QB was your 2nd or 3rd choice. The Naryland WB choose Wisconsin and the Baylor backup/former 3 year Toledo starter Flinn went to Miami, Oh.
Former Fresno qb Mikey Keene is 5’11”, 200 lbs and not much of a runner/scrambler have rushed for -379 yards in his 4 year career. That freshman better be the real deal.