Ohio State Football 2024

IVCguy said:
I will show how moronic your thinking is. You pick an arbitrary false premise like "QB can't throw the ball 15 yards down the field." Setting aside that this is demonstrably false, you imply that the ball must be completed 50 yards down the field or it indicates some kind of fatal flaw.

But here is the thing - Howard doesn't have to complete one pass of 50 yards in the air the rest of the yeat for the OSU offense to be the amazing unit they are. He will, but it's not a necessity. When you can screen, slant, and bring a receiver across, throw a 0-12 yard pass and score TDs, completing 90-95% of those throws, where is the need to complete 50-50 balls downfield? It's an imaginary thing you have in your head.

Now, if your short passing game is limited because DBs are squatting on you in coverage, or if you are having trouble running the ball, THEN it is true that stretching the field can back the safeties up and give you more room and favorable numbers to throw short and run the ball. But this doesn't apply to the present OSU offense. They are running the ball exceptionally well and no one is playing coverage like they don't have to worry about the ball going over their heads to 2, 4, 17, etc.

Know and understand what you are seeing, then you will have better takes on it.
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Hey, someone that knows ball. Quite refreshing
 
IVCguy said:
Additionally, you have a terrible misperception of what "better players" means in terms of lining up and playing. In most cases, the difference is 10 lbs and .1 seconds on a 40 time. QB talent is an exception to that, due to the importance of the position, but according to you, Howard is just another guy, so that exception doesn't apply to your silly take.

Certainly, the bigger, faster athletes have an advantage, but especially with a team like Sparty, that advantage is small and can be compensated for by good positioning, scheme, playing hard, etc.

So, contrary to what you think, the players that practice the best, play the hardest, and execute to the higher degree collectively are the winners - regardless of fan perception of who has better players. This is why we have upsets every weekend.

There is a talent and athletic superiority gap that cannot be overcome by controllable factors in the case of a perceived inferior team, but when it comes to teams with B1G level talent or something close, Ohio St will have to practice, prepare, plan, play hard, and execute to win. Your superior talent doesn't guarantee you a win, let alone, the ability to dominate.

Ohio St dominated Sparty by every measure. What you are doing is moving the goalposts and criticizing them for not clearly dominating them for 1 qtr or so. It's absurd in how you are underestimating the quality of Sparty and what a performance in the 4th game against Sparty means in terms of whether Ohio St is a national championship contender. They most certainly are and your assertion to the contrary is just silly.

Why do you do that?
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This comment alone shows how ignorant you are. If talent didn’t matter than Georgia and Alabama wouldn’t be winning most of the national championships, only exception has been Michigan which was a team that had elite level coaching across the board.

Also, Michigan States margin for error was thin and they did commit error which led to OSU getting the lead that they did. If MSU doesn’t make those mistakes or get conepltely screwed on one call we are have a completely different discussion today
 
IVCguy said:
Lol. You are such a *ool. Did you see those defenses last night? Alabama was great in the first half and abysmal in the 2nd half. Georgia was atrocious in the first half and pretty good in the 2nd - except when it really mattered.

Let's see how OSU's defense performs against a high-powered offense on Oct 12. I'm pretty confident they won't give up 40, but maybe they will. Regardless, if Ohio St has to win a score for score game, I like their chances to win that kind of game against anyone - including your gods of the SEC. Those gods looked fairly mortal last night.
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I clearly explained why earlier in this thread as well. Not only do you not know ball but you cannot read either.
 
Gh0st said:
They’re not lucky. There’s no point in that game where it looked even remotely possible OSU would go down by a decent amount. Worst case, MSU hung in for a quarter and a half.
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So Michigan State fumbling once and the ref missing a face mask that swung momentum isn’t getting lucky. Got ya
 
IVCguy said:
There is a talent and athletic superiority gap that cannot be overcome by controllable factors in the case of a perceived inferior team, but when it comes to teams with B1G level talent or something close, Ohio St will have to practice, prepare, plan, play hard, and execute to win. Your superior talent doesn't guarantee you a win, let alone, the ability to dominate.

Ohio St dominated Sparty by every measure. What you are doing is moving the goalposts and criticizing them for not clearly dominating them for 1 qtr or so. It's absurd in how you are underestimating the quality of Sparty and what a performance in the 4th game against Sparty means in terms of whether Ohio St is a national championship contender. They most certainly are and your assertion to the contrary is just silly.
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Ohio State is a title contender, but let’s be honest: Michigan State stinks. Whooping them doesn’t prove anything.
 
Gh0st said:
They’re not lucky. There’s no point in that game where it looked even remotely possible OSU would go down by a decent amount. Worst case, MSU hung in for a quarter and a half.
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I’m really impressed with Ohio State so far. Definitely a 6-7 win team in MSU and our starters only played 3 quarters? That’s impressive, especially in today’s era of football. With the new clock rules it’s easy to burn 5-7 minutes of time, it’s what Kentucky did to Ole Miss with their 40 mins of TOP. Iowa is going to be a great challenge for our offense
 
smurfyeah19 said:
I’m really impressed with Ohio State so far. Definitely a 6-7 win team in MSU and our starters only played 3 quarters? That’s impressive, especially in today’s era of football. With the new clock rules it’s easy to burn 5-7 minutes of time, it’s what Kentucky did to Ole Miss with their 40 mins of TOP. Iowa is going to be a great challenge for our offense
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OSU now has won 9 in a row in the series, previous longest streak was 8.
 
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Spartacus1987 said:
This comment alone shows how ignorant you are. If talent didn’t matter than Georgia and Alabama wouldn’t be winning most of the national championships, only exception has been Michigan which was a team that had elite level coaching across the board.

Also, Michigan States margin for error was thin and they did commit error which led to OSU getting the lead that they did. If MSU doesn’t make those mistakes or get conepltely screwed on one call we are have a completely different discussion today
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Resorting to comedy since you don’t know anything about football?
 
Orin Swift said:
Styles and Hicks continue to rank as the worst graded defenders by PFF. All that athleticism and the mental aspect of the game just won’t click.
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Yeah, I wanted to buy into the Styles hype, but he has never been great. I scratched my head constantly watching him last year. Just one of those kids who has the physical attributes, but too slow to read and react I guess.
 
Spartacus1987 said:
This comment alone shows how ignorant you are. If talent didn’t matter than Georgia and Alabama wouldn’t be winning most of the national championships, only exception has been Michigan which was a team that had elite level coaching across the board.

Also, Michigan States margin for error was thin and they did commit error which led to OSU getting the lead that they did. If MSU doesn’t make those mistakes or get conepltely screwed on one call we are have a completely different discussion today
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lol. He didn't say talent didn't matter. So you think MSU actually wins that game if they get a few breaks? Can you explain then why this has actually never happened with RD as head coach? An unranked team actually beating OSU?
 
Hammerdrill said:
lol. He didn't say talent didn't matter. So you think MSU actually wins that game if they get a few breaks? Can you explain then why this has actually never happened with RD as head coach? An unranked team actually beating OSU?
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No, going back to my original comment was that the game would have taken a much longer time for OSU to put them away. Way too long for a team like OSU who’s supposed to win a title this season.
 
Spartacus1987 said:
Actually it very well could be. Michigan State was pretty defeated to start the third. Do they lack the same energy in a closer game? We will never know.
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That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Every team in college football is happy you don’t get a poll vote with that logic.
 
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