Northwest Conference 2024

Although Grove won it was ugly at best. Tonight LCC was the best team Grove has played-that is not to say they are in fact that good but tonight they were. Barazza got some yards but other than one big play they contained him pretty well it was not a great night for Hopkins but the game flow just wasn’t there tonight. On to next week with hopefully a better offensive game plan which imo was very poorly executed tonight
 
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Just going to say it is a season to forget for the teams on the good side of the conference. All 3 at the bottom of the league. Hope they figure it out. They're playing up to the Green Meadows level instead of the NWC level.
 
well we are finally here, grove week. after seeing last nights scores it’s obvious either grove was looking ahead or there not very good. I may change my prediction during the week but I’m going Pirates 28-7
 
Here we go! Excited for this game. This is what HS football is about excluding playoffs. Injuries have not been in our favor but that is part of the game. My dawgs 28-21.
 
Basement Bias said:
Just going to say it is a season to forget for the teams on the good side of the conference. All 3 at the bottom of the league. Hope they figure it out. They're playing up to the Green Meadows level instead of the NWC level.
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Injuries plagued your Knights this year. Back to back 1 TD losses against Loramie and Allen East without their best 2 players was a killer
 
BirdDog10 said:
Injuries plagued your Knights this year. Back to back 1 TD losses against Loramie and Allen East without their best 2 players was a killer
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True for the Knights (can't really say "my" as kids left or are leaving there at semester and/or end of year) but they will have to develop the next man up.
 
It's pretty clear at this point in the season who the better team is. Grove has clearly regressed since the first third of the season, post Best at QB. I also feel all the hype, being complacent, and it looks like a team that has lost some of the hunger. Which happens to successful groups, you been on top so long that you start to forget the sacrifice it takes to get there. It's clear that LCC gave Grove all they could handle, all the top half teams in the conference have playmakers. You can point to three or so guys on every top tier team. It boils down to the guys who do the dirty work, and after hearing about LCC game I don't think Grove has the horses in the trenches to take down the pirates. That said I totally see a rematch between Grove and LCC on the regional finals or semis. Also heard on NWO podcast that a key PH player is also not a Grove believer. You can't take all of these facts, Drew Pasture prediction, at Bluffton, hungrier team, ask yourself no ties to either team any you have to place a bet on a pickem, who would you honestly put your money on??????
 
Pirate Wishbone said:
I also feel all the hype, being complacent, and it looks like a team that has lost some of the hunger. Which happens to successful groups, you been on top so long that you start to forget the sacrifice it takes to get there.
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Pirate Wishbone said:
Also heard on NWO podcast that a key PH player is also not a Grove believer.
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Pirate Wishbone said:
You can't take all of these facts, Drew Pasture prediction, at Bluffton, hungrier team, ask yourself no ties to either team any you have to place a bet on a pickem, who would you honestly put your money on??????
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Couple of things:
1. What do you know what it is like being at the top? And how it’s supposedly takes away the hunger and sacrifice it forget what it takes? Bluffton has been good for 2 years out of the last 20 years. So Grove plays a solid LCC and pulls out the win.
2. A “opinion from any player from another team is the most irrelevant thing base off for a game. Who cares. They lost to grove the player was probably feeling petty about it.
3. Give me Grove all day! They’ve won the conference what 5 out of 6 years?? They’ve been in these BIG game moments many many more times than Bluffton has. I gotta feeling they will be ready to go.
But as arrogant Bluffton fans can and keep comparing scores and stats and keep saying all that and why they are better. Keep over looking them bulldogs an see what happnes
 
Pirate Wishbone said:
It's pretty clear at this point in the season who the better team is. Grove has clearly regressed since the first third of the season, post Best at QB. I also feel all the hype, being complacent, and it looks like a team that has lost some of the hunger. Which happens to successful groups, you been on top so long that you start to forget the sacrifice it takes to get there. It's clear that LCC gave Grove all they could handle, all the top half teams in the conference have playmakers. You can point to three or so guys on every top tier team. It boils down to the guys who do the dirty work, and after hearing about LCC game I don't think Grove has the horses in the trenches to take down the pirates. That said I totally see a rematch between Grove and LCC on the regional finals or semis. Also heard on NWO podcast that a key PH player is also not a Grove believer. You can't take all of these facts, Drew Pasture prediction, at Bluffton, hungrier team, ask yourself no ties to either team any you have to place a bet on a pickem, who would you honestly put your money on??????
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History. In this particular matchup I place my pick on the history between the two. Simple as that.
 
I like how Bluffton fans asked for opinions from other schools outside of grove and Bluffton and you give it they just completely ignore it and then
Make another statement that’s irrelevant from what they were asking for. It just seems just the response you give is the one they don’t want to hear so they change the subject to something else about game 😂
I just give the uno reverse card and ask questions too, but they don’t wanna answer that’ okay lol
 
Redskin97 said:
I like how Bluffton fans asked for opinions from other schools outside of grove and Bluffton and you give it they just completely ignore it and then
Make another statement that’s irrelevant from what they were asking for. It just seems just the response you give is the one they don’t want to hear so they change the subject to something else about game 😂
I just give the uno reverse card and ask questions too, but they don’t wanna answer that’ okay lol
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Yes we have or at least I have heard your opinions, I am not ignoring it, asking if it has changed with recent events
 
Pirate Wishbone said:
Yes we have or at least I have heard your opinions, I am not ignoring it, asking if it has changed with recent events
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Got ya, nope has not changed. IMO, to be the best you gotta beat the best and take down the The top dogs of the conference ( no pun intended) until till then Grove is still my pick.
 
Pirate Wishbone said:
You can't take all of these facts, Drew Pasture prediction,
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Grove is doomed. Drew Pasture has Bluffton winning by 1 point on Bluffton's field. All those blowouts and keeping the starters in has finally payed off for Bluffton.

Did Grove regress when they played Crestview? Fort Loramie? What makes you think they have gone backwards? Running clock in 7 of 9 games. LCC was playing for a share of the league title and pulled out all the stops last night. Grove on the other hand didn't play real sharp but was still up 28-13 until 40 seconds left in the game.

Geez....these Bluffton people are exhausting. Comparing scores and stats will get you nowhere. A lesson that Pirate Wishbone should have learned last year. But then again Grove lives rent free in Bluffton's head so much they just don't realize it..
 
Pirate Wishbone said:
It's pretty clear at this point in the season who the better team is. Grove has clearly regressed since the first third of the season, post Best at QB. I also feel all the hype, being complacent, and it looks like a team that has lost some of the hunger. Which happens to successful groups, you been on top so long that you start to forget the sacrifice it takes to get there. It's clear that LCC gave Grove all they could handle, all the top half teams in the conference have playmakers. You can point to three or so guys on every top tier team. It boils down to the guys who do the dirty work, and after hearing about LCC game I don't think Grove has the horses in the trenches to take down the pirates. That said I totally see a rematch between Grove and LCC on the regional finals or semis. Also heard on NWO podcast that a key PH player is also not a Grove believer. You can't take all of these facts, Drew Pasture prediction, at Bluffton, hungrier team, ask yourself no ties to either team any you have to place a bet on a pickem, who would you honestly put your money on??????
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It is a simple question with a not so complicated answer. Who would I put my money on? Let’s see……without too much thought the obvious answer is Grove psychologically they own Bluffton In every sport and in this matchup that is huge so even at Bluffton I go with Grove sorry if the Pirate fans can’t understand this phenomenon but it is real
 
Dr. Frasier Crane said:
Grove is doomed. Drew Pasture has Bluffton winning by 1 point on Bluffton's field. All those blowouts and keeping the starters in has finally payed off for Bluffton.

Did Grove regress when they played Crestview? Fort Loramie? What makes you think they have gone backwards? Running clock in 7 of 9 games. LCC was playing for a share of the league title and pulled out all the stops last night. Grove on the other hand didn't play real sharp but was still up 28-13 until 40 seconds left in the game.

Geez....these Bluffton people are exhausting. Comparing scores and stats will get you nowhere. A lesson that Pirate Wishbone should have learned last year. But then again Grove lives rent free in Bluffton's head so much they just don't realize it..
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I think it's hard for people to have a clear understanding of how terrified the Pirates are of Grove. So I'll throw my 2¢ in as a fan of neither school. I've watched each school play Allen East this season, for reference.

First, I will say that I don't think either team is as good as they were last year. Grove is missing their QB, while Bluffton lost a lot to graduation. But with that being said, they're the top two teams for now. So here is my comparison:

QB: Grove is on their third QB. Bluffton has a young QB who is an athlete, but not a great passer. Advantage Bluffton

RB: Grove has the best RB in the NWC, hands down. Bluffton has a nice combination with Worcester and Lovell, but neither holds a candle. Advantage Grove

WR: This is tricky because Bluffton doesn't really utilize many true WRs. Bricker and Stackhouse are used more in the running game than in the passing game. But they are definitely weapons that must be accounted for. Baxter is a very nice downfield weapon for Grove, and they'll also hand him the ball. Advantage Bluffton

Line: Bluffton's best offensive lineman was lost in week one with a knee injury. I was surprised to see him playing defense last night. Their best lineman now is their center. He's solid but nothing special. The two biggest kids are the worst by far. Both hold constantly because they aren't very good. Groves offensive line is smaller, but much more physical than Bluffton's. I talked to the grandson of a friend today who plays for Allen East. He has faced both lines, both offensive and defensive, and said that Groves is much better, in his opinion. I didn't think he had a reason to lie to me. Advantage Grove

Defensive line: Mays from Grove is a monster. One of the best defensive tackles in the conference. The rest were aggressive but didn't wow me. Nobody on Bluffton's defensive line impressed me. Again, Sommers is a huge loss because he was really good last year. Last night he wasn't really effective. The others did a decent job of occupying the offensive line so the linebackers could do their thing. Advantage Grove.

Linebacker: Worcester is the reigning defensive POY in the league. And he's damn good. Great vision, closes fast. And you don't break his tackles. The other LBs are role players. But they play their roles well. I don't really remember Groves linebackers. I mean, they were very good. Allen East struggled to run against both teams. But Allen East was pretty terrible this year so that's not really saying much. Advantage Bluffton.


Secondary: Bluffton has the better tackling secondary while Grove has the better coverage secondary. Advantage tie

Coaching: I'm not a fan of either coach, but Schafer clearly has a lot more success under his belt. It's not even close. There's no substitution for experience. Advantage Grove

Psychological: Jesus. Do I even need to say it. Grove lives in Bluffton's heads rent free. I doubt they're nearly as scared or nervous as the Pirates are. Advantage Grove

Most intriguing matchup: Barazza at RB vs Worcester at LB. The best in the NWC at their respective positions. I'm really hoping this game is broadcast on delay somewhere so I can watch it later. That matchup alone is worth it.

My prediction: I think it will be similar to the playoff matchup last year. I think Grove jumps ahead early, and Bluffton must respond. How long it takes them to do that determines how badly they lose. And they will lose. Grove by anywhere between 7 and 21.
 
IMO, the CG Bulldogs most impressive win was vs D5 Liberty-Benton and Bluffton Pirates was vs D7 LCC. My money is still on Bluffton to get the W in this pivotal week 10 matchup for the NWC crown.
 
Will be making 1 post this week and here it is. Breaking down each level of game.

QB Play- Advantage Bluffton, Offensive player of year after we win!!
RB Play- CG, he is all they have.
Line play- Advantage Bluffton, last week proved that Bluffton is way better with line play
WR play- slight advantage to Bluffton, I feel we are way faster.

D line play- Advantage Bluffton Sommers is a DUDE!!!!
LB play- hate to say it, but advantage to CG just due to the fact they have 3 seniors. We have the best LB, but I think overall CG may be a touch better.
Secondary play- advantage Bluffton, just better athletes in general and Barraza doesn't even play defense.

Coaching experience (not just HC)- Advantage Bluffton. Jason Diller, Jason Granger, Jeff Richards, and I am not sure of his name maybe Denny Phillips but the dinosaur DB coach from Bluffton University, way better knowledged in football.

Score prediction- 28-14 Bluffton
 
oneeyepirate said:
Coaching experience (not just HC)- Advantage Bluffton. Jason Diller, Jason Granger, Jeff Richards, and I am not sure of his name maybe Denny Phillips but the dinosaur DB coach from Bluffton University, way better knowledged in football.
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Out of all the dumb crap you've said on this thread, I think this one takes the cake
 
oneeyepirate said:
Will be making 1 post this week and here it is. Breaking down each level of game.

QB Play- Advantage Bluffton, Offensive player of year after we win!!
RB Play- CG, he is all they have.
Line play- Advantage Bluffton, last week proved that Bluffton is way better with line play
WR play- slight advantage to Bluffton, I feel we are way faster.

D line play- Advantage Bluffton Sommers is a DUDE!!!!
LB play- hate to say it, but advantage to CG just due to the fact they have 3 seniors. We have the best LB, but I think overall CG may be a touch better.
Secondary play- advantage Bluffton, just better athletes in general and Barraza doesn't even play defense.

Coaching experience (not just HC)- Advantage Bluffton. Jason Diller, Jason Granger, Jeff Richards, and I am not sure of his name maybe Denny Phillips but the dinosaur DB coach from Bluffton University, way better knowledged in football.

Score prediction- 28-14 Bluffton
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And how many state appearances does this group of coaches have?
 
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