NEO Conference Realignment

[bmss17]

With the Superintendents of the Metro Athletic Conference approving Kent, Cuyahoga Falls, and Talmadge to replace the vacancy left by Coventry, this could potentially lead to another major conference realignment.

It sounds like there are rumors of schools heading to the WRC; does the SL try to backfill the loss of those three American schools; does the GCC take the brunt schools trying to get into the SL.

Seeing as there are so many potential scenarios and rumors that will be flying around, I figured it made sense to just start a separate thread. Curious just how much this will impact conferences in NEO.

 

[Winnie Pooh]

With the Superintendents of the Metro Athletic Conference approving Kent, Cuyahoga Falls, and Talmadge to replace the vacancy left by Coventry, this could potentially lead to another major conference realignment.

It sounds like there are rumors of schools heading to the WRC; does the SL try to backfill the loss of those three American schools; does the GCC take the brunt schools trying to get into the SL.

Seeing as there are so many potential scenarios and rumors that will be flying around, I figured it made sense to just start a separate thread. Curious just how much this will impact conferences in NEO.

Is this official?

 

[wildcat71]

Can't imagine Mogadore Field, Akron Springfield are too excited about this. I remember when my kids attended Mogadore Field, they played both Theodore Roosevelt and Tallmadge in football, not good....

 

[BlackandGold]

Can't imagine Mogadore Field, Akron Springfield are too excited about this. I remember when my kids attended Mogadore Field, they played both Theodore Roosevelt and Tallmadge in football, not good....

I'm puzzled how Coventry thinks they will be more competitive in the PAC...

 

[ball 4]

Where does Rootstown and Mogadore go? Herd that Rootstown applied to the CVC with 4 0ther schools.

 

[bmss17]

Can't imagine Mogadore Field, Akron Springfield are too excited about this. I remember when my kids attended Mogadore Field, they played both Theodore Roosevelt and Tallmadge in football, not good....

Field was one of the drivers in this.

 

[bmss17]

Is this official?

It’s official as far as the MAC is concerned. It won’t be 100% official until those three districts have their boards approve to leave the SL and join the MAC. Typically, that step is a formality as these conversations should have taken place already.

 

[CometssFan88]

happy the comets are out of that league

no thx

field
cloverleaf
c.falls
kent
norton
cloverleaf
streetsboro
woodridge
tallmadge
springfield - will bolt
ravenna - will bolt

 

[RiderJay]

Wonder if there's ever been any consideration towards Coventry and Springfield joining the Akron City Series. I would think those schools would be a better fit than Barberton.

 

[Winnie Pooh]

happy the comets are out of that league

no thx

field
cloverleaf
c.falls
kent
norton
cloverleaf
streetsboro
woodridge
tallmadge
springfield - will bolt
ravenna - will bolt

You have Cloverleaf twice.

I wonder if the Ravens and Spartans would consider the EBC?

 

[Winnie Pooh]

Wonder if there's ever been any consideration towards Coventry and Springfield joining the Akron City Series. I would think those schools would be a better fit than Barberton.

I thought Coventry was going back to the PAC?

 

[MentorGrad2002]

I still doubt the 3 Westside schools of the GCC would be welcomed by all the suburban bigger schools who left the NOC to get away from those big d1 types

If that were to occur though, I'm all for Mentor going independent with a scheduling alliance with the WRC in girls sports and non revenue boys sports

Don't need to be in the LEL again

 

[NEOfan]

I still doubt the 3 Westside schools of the GCC would be welcomed by all the suburban bigger schools who left the NOC to get away from those big d1 types

If that were to occur though, I'm all for Mentor going independent with a scheduling alliance with the WRC in girls sports and non revenue boys sports

Don't need to be in the LEL again

I think the GCC will stay in tact. Like you said there is nowhere for the 3 Westside schools to go and there aren't any better options for Mentor, Medina, Heights or Shaker

 

[Yappi]

happy the comets are out of that league

no thx

field
cloverleaf
c.falls
kent
norton
cloverleaf
streetsboro
woodridge
tallmadge
springfield - will bolt
ravenna - will bolt

Why would Ravenna bolt? I thought they have wanted to be back together with their main rival, Kent Roosevelt. Also, Ravenna has a real tough financial crunch right now where bussing was an issue for sports. This league is all relatively close schools. I can't see them finding a better fit elsewhere.

I can see Springfield leaving due to competitiveness. Cloverleaf is the outlier for distance from other schools.

 

[BlackandGold]

Metro Athletic Conference could expand to 10 schools and shrink Suburban League to 13

The Metro Athletic Conference is ready to add Cuyahoga Falls, Kent Roosevelt and Tallmadge. That would leave the Suburban League with 13 schools.

www.beaconjournal.com

 

[NEOfan]

How many does the WRC have? Aurora seems like a perfect fit there I wonder if they look into that instead of staying put in whatever the new Suburban American league will look like

 

[bmss17]

Why would Ravenna bolt? I thought they have wanted to be back together with their main rival, Kent Roosevelt. Also, Ravenna has a real tough financial crunch right now where bussing was an issue for sports. This league is all relatively close schools. I can't see them finding a better fit elsewhere.

I can see Springfield leaving due to competitiveness. Cloverleaf is the outlier for distance from other schools.

I think Springfield and Ravenna leaving is very possible. Both schools were pushing (Ravenna in particular) for a two division set-up with the smaller division made up primarily of other Portage County schools. Bottom line is neither of those schools are truly competitive and I can definitely see either or both leaving.

If that does happen, the MAC is still sitting at 8 members…so this was very smart of them to expand to 10 imo.

 

[wildcat71]

Field was one of the drivers in this.

I just remember when Field was in a league with some of these schools, not a good fit then.

 

[BlackandGold]

How many does the WRC have? Aurora seems like a perfect fit there I wonder if they look into that instead of staying put in whatever the new Suburban American league will look like

Currently 6, but there have been rumors for over a year about dissolving the league. Recently, I’ve heard on the WRC side and read on here there is discussion of possibly adding schools like Aurora, Nordonia, and Twinsburg but not including all the current 6 WRC schools.

 

[bmss17]

How many does the WRC have? Aurora seems like a perfect fit there I wonder if they look into that instead of staying put in whatever the new Suburban American league will look like

WRC is only at six schools, and with the exception of Kenston, all are on the 271/90 corridor, so not a great fit for them geographically. The same I’m sure could be said for Kenston in terms of SLA geography.

 

[Winnie Pooh]

How many does the WRC have? Aurora seems like a perfect fit there I wonder if they look into that instead of staying put in whatever the new Suburban American league will look like

WRC is 6: Chardon, Eastlake North, Kenston, Mayfield, Painesville Riverside and Willoughby South

 

[wildcat71]

happy the comets are out of that league

no thx

field
cloverleaf
c.falls
kent
norton
cloverleaf
streetsboro
woodridge
tallmadge
springfield - will bolt
ravenna - will bolt

Sure seems like Lodi Cloverleaf is the outlier and Akron Springfield hasn't done well in this league. Doubt it changes. The others are all close geographically.

 

[NEOfan]

Currently 6, but there have been rumors for over a year about dissolving the league. Recently, I’ve heard on the WRC side and read on here there is discussion of possibly adding schools like Aurora, Nordonia, and Twinsburg but not including all the current 6 WRC schools.

Hmm.. something like Aurora, Twinsburg, Nordonia, Mayfield, Kenston, Solon, Chardon and one more could probably work no?

At the end of the day I feel like almost every school on the National side of the Suburban is pretty content though

 

[BlackandGold]

Hmm.. something like Aurora, Twinsburg, Nordonia, Mayfield, Kenston, Solon, Chardon and one more could probably work no?

I heard all of the above except North and South were in the discussions but not Mayfield or Solon. I am surprised Mayfield was not, but there are a lot of rumors.

 

[NEOfan]

I heard North and South were in the discussions but not Mayfield or Solon. I am surprised Mayfield was not, but there are a lot of rumors.

Fair. But with that rumor I can't see Nordonia or Twinsburg being super interested in joining

 

[Mr. Red Raider]

Is Coventry gonna be any more competitive in the PAC than they were in the Metro? Outside of Manchester, they are going to be a geographical outlier.

I kinda figured it was inevitable that Roosevelt and Tallmadge would be part of the Metro. Kinda surprised at Cuyahoga Falls being included, simply because they're one of the bigger schools. Is the Metro going to split into two subconferences, or just one big conference?

 

[bmss17]

Is Coventry gonna be any more competitive in the PAC than they were in the Metro? Outside of Manchester, they are going to be a geographical outlier.

I kinda figured it was inevitable that Roosevelt and Tallmadge would be part of the Metro. Kinda surprised at Cuyahoga Falls being included, simply because they're one of the bigger schools. Is the Metro going to split into two subconferences, or just one big conference?

That’s a great question. I believe football will be one conference; not sure if everyone will still play seven league games, or move to eight or nine.

I can see sports like soccer being round robins, and others like basketball and baseball/softball where you split into two divisions, play everyone in your division twice and crossovers once to get you 13 games.

It’s still very likely by the time these three are added the MAC is back down to eight teams.

As far as Falls go, I think they’re a great fit. Size wise they don’t fit (good for Harbins though), but they are a great fit geographically, and they are building new facilities as well. I don’t think Falls is ever going to be a power given how many kids they lose to privates and other OE districts nearby.

 

[bucksman]

using the three-grade raw enrollment numbers for males (9-11 in 23/24): Solon 592, Stow 566, Wadsworth 562, North Royalton 554, Hudson 497, Brecksville 456, Twinsburg 431, Nordonia 430 (SLN) Highland 432, Barberton 417, Aurora 368, Revere 353, Copley 312 (remaining SLA)
**Wadsworth is the geographic outlier in the present SLN, though outside of the Fed - where they would remain a geographic outlier (though closer to the opponents than in the SLN, and the Fed would actually have to want them) - the SLN is clearly their best spot.

Cuyahoga Falls 415, Kent Roosevelt 331, and Tallmadge 298 are the three schools that left the SL. CF is non-competitive, and can maybe try their luck in the MAC. Kent Roosevelt fits geographically well with the MAC, and Tallmadge is dwarfed by everyone, even in the SLA. Streetsboro 258, Cloverleaf 247, Ravenna 244, and Norton 242 are the upper half in raw enrollments in the MAC currently before realignment (lower half: Springfield 241, Field 235, Coventry 215, Woodridge 206)
**Kent and Tallmadge instantly become the big-boys in the MAC. CF has a big enrollment advantage, but it won't show in terms of competitiveness. I'm not sure Kent has the ability to become an all-sport behemoth, Tallmadge might.

Current WRC: P. Riverside 529, E. North 505, Mayfield 437, W. South 399, Chardon 343, Kenston 294 ... Kenston punches way above their size in terms of all-sport competitiveness, E. North punches below its weight in terms of all-sport competitivenes

Independent Brush is at 375 for male enrollment. In terms of sports competitiveness/school demographics, they profile closer to the LEL and city league schools. Bedford is at 354, and Garfield Hts is at 403 among the east side schools that have been looking for other homes, though both sit in the LEL.

Medina (754), Brunswick (744), and Strongsville (687) are all significantly bigger than even the bigggest school in the SLN

I highly doubt the SLA would be receptive to parochial schools in their league, though they did explore CVCA for a bit before Cuyahoga Falls moved down some years back.

 

[CometssFan88]

**Kent and Tallmadge instantly become the big-boys in the MAC. CF has a big enrollment advantage, but it won't show in terms of competitiveness. I'm not sure Kent has the ability to become an all-sport behemoth, Tallmadge might.

biggens & favorites in pretty much all sports

theee roughriders in 2015 cried how the same group of schools (ptc-metro) didnt have the competitive lvl they wanted so they get cocky and go to the suburban

now they come rolling back to same schools because they couldnt win in the suburban

lolzzz

CF is non-competitive, and can maybe try their luck in the MAC

contenders now

Streetsboro 258, Cloverleaf 247, Ravenna 244, and Norton 242 are the upper half in raw enrollments in the MAC currently before realignment (lower half: Springfield 241, Field 235, Coventry 215, Woodridge 206)

id think ravens and spartans go to ptc?

 

[Fumblerooski]

I think the SLN stays the same, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see the 5 remaining SLA schools find new homes. Aurora should join the WRC (with Brush), and Highland and Barberton should look west. Not really sure what to do with Copley and Revere.

I guess another option is to add one more school and do two 7 league divisions. Bedford feels like a natural fit with their proximity to Solon, Twinsburg, Nordonia, and Brecksville, and similar enrollment.