Mooney coach assaulted by player’s father

Sounds like this son of Mr Whackacoach is the problem, probably needs to be suspended and father do some real time.. Look Daddy Whackacoach, apparently your son has disciplinary problems stemming from good ole dad and isn’t Mooney tough. All due respect to Mooney school and coaches, there is no place in football for this. Did the kid get thrown off the team ?
 
Scipio said:
I never experienced abuse. Well, other than running ”the hill” in college for conditioning. Whoever thought of bear crawling backwards up that hill should have been jailed.
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Our practice field in college was at the top of a about a 1/2 mile hill. Punishment for wrongdoing was to bear crawl up and barrell roll down. There were numerous full scholarship players that straight up quit the team after experiencing it. Thankfully I never did, walking up it to practice was bad enough.
 
Jaws31 said:
Our practice field in college was at the top of a about a 1/2 mile hill. Punishment for wrongdoing was to bear crawl up and barrell roll down. There were numerous full scholarship players that straight up quit the team after experiencing it. Thankfully I never did, walking up it to practice was bad enough.
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We are victims and I want justice.
 
MOB said:
Agree fully with this.

Coaching hard is great, but it's difficult. When something goes wrong, the crossover into abuse is ridiculous. They are kids.
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When coaches cross the line (recall Remember the Titans when Coach Yost warns Coach Boone, "There's a fine line between tough and crazy and you're flirting with it"). Usually that's evidence that it's about the coach's ego and not the good of the players.
 
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I guess to me it comes down to:
1. A coach should never abuse a player in any way shape or form. Proper discipline is not abuse. I am unaware of the coach abusing this or any other player in this instance.
2. Parents should stay out of it. If you have a legitimate gripe about your son or daughter, step back, and try to be objective. If you feel you have a legitimate gripe after reflection, ask for a time to resolve the problem. It doesn't sound like a time was set aside and after a game, win or lose, is never a good time.
3. There is no need for any raising of voices and NEVER reason for a physical altercation. NO, NO, NO, you should never resort to physical violence.
4. A good coach leads by example. ENOUGH SAID
 
FootballPsychGuy said:
Cinciirish, if you only KNEW how accurate your words are, to EXACTLY what's going on today, not just in schools, but everywhere. I'm also a teacher/coach, in year 39, also in SW Ohio. What you describe is spot on for things we are seeing on a daily basis, unfortunately. Times have honestly changed, and the issues we see in our culture today, and bemoan about, can all be traced back to a few common things. Covid most definitely set kids back socially-emotionally, not just one year, IMO, but more than one. They tend to lack the grit needed to be resilient, about pretty much anything, in general. Add to that, parents seem to see it as their obligation to not just smooth over any bumps in their kids' road, but to now completely obliterate any obstacle that has even the slightest chance to have a negative impact on their kid...in ALL settings. AI has brought with it a new level of cheating, coaches can't freely "coach" so much today, & no, I'm not talking about those who should find another line of work b/c of their character issues & moral/ethical integrity shortcomings, but even those who are in it for all the right reasons. It's just not worth the mental & emotional, as well as physical toil all of this takes on teachers/coaches over time. I haven't even mentioned the enormous amount of time spent away from their own families, in helping others' kids develop. This incident @ CM is an extreme example, but none-the-less, these type of things are happening SO often today, I believe we've pretty much become normalized by how often they do happen.
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This right here!!! Big reason I left teaching and why my wife is contemplating leaving after 17 years. Combine that with administrators and lawmakers who are doing everything in their power to make teachers' jobs more difficult.
 
cincifbfan said:
This right here!!! Big reason I left teaching and why my wife is contemplating leaving after 17 years. Combine that with administrators and lawmakers who are doing everything in their power to make teachers' jobs more difficult.
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It's very hard nowadays to enlist referees for the games because of the threats and abuse they receive from the adults in the stands.
I would like to comment about a coach who was a gentlemen through and through, who showed the way to his boys by his example, who kept things in perspective (although he wanted to win and win he did). That was the late Tom Carey at Ursuline. I heard more than one parent say that they felt confident when they entrusted their sons to Tom Carey. I know there were many such coaches even if that was in the '50s-'60s. Perhaps it would be good to list and honor some of them.
 
ace said:
I guess to me it comes down to:
1. A coach should never abuse a player in any way shape or form. Proper discipline is not abuse. I am unaware of the coach abusing this or any other player in this instance.
2. Parents should stay out of it. If you have a legitimate gripe about your son or daughter, step back, and try to be objective. If you feel you have a legitimate gripe after reflection, ask for a time to resolve the problem. It doesn't sound like a time was set aside and after a game, win or lose, is never a good time.
3. There is no need for any raising of voices and NEVER reason for a physical altercation. NO, NO, NO, you should never resort to physical violence.
4. A good coach leads by example. ENOUGH SAID
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So that leaves out JR?
 
Cinciirish said:
It's very hard nowadays to enlist referees for the games because of the threats and abuse they receive from the adults in the stands.
I would like to comment about a coach who was a gentlemen through and through, who showed the way to his boys by his example, who kept things in perspective (although he wanted to win and win he did). That was the late Tom Carey at Ursuline. I heard more than one parent say that they felt confident when they entrusted their sons to Tom Carey. I know there were many such coaches even if that was in the '50s-'60s. Perhaps it would be good to list and honor some of them.
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A little off topic here, but back in the day my father was friends with Tom Carey and thus I had some exposure to him as a teenager and young adult. I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment. Mr. Carey was an outstanding teacher, coach, and administrator; and likewise in his personal life was a solid citizen who treated all with honesty and respect. The fact that he and his wife had (I think) 8 daughters but no sons perhaps helped shape his perspective as he positively influenced many young men during his career at Ursuline.
 
WishYouWereHere said:

What about these kids?
I bet some of them are in high school.
Can I hit them?

Some kids deserve a beating.
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Sorry you raised your kids so poorly? Oh, not your kids? Then no, you don't get to hit them. You're no more the authority than a football coach to discipline that way.

How is that video even remotely related to the thread topic, lol? You been holding that in your jeans waiting for an opportunity?
 
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eastisbest said:
Sorry you raised your kids so poorly? Oh, not your kids? Then no, you don't get to hit them. You're no more the authority than a football coach to discipline that way.

How is that video even remotely related to the thread topic, lol? You been holding that in your jeans waiting for an opportunity?
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Is this your kid?
Or you?
I would show you the errors of your ways as well.
Don’t be scared. Just act right.
 
coldshoulder said:
A little off topic here, but back in the day my father was friends with Tom Carey and thus I had some exposure to him as a teenager and young adult. I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment. Mr. Carey was an outstanding teacher, coach, and administrator; and likewise in his personal life was a solid citizen who treated all with honesty and respect. The fact that he and his wife had (I think) 8 daughters but no sons perhaps helped shape his perspective as he positively influenced many young men during his career at Ursuline.
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I was at Rayen in '68 (a sea of mud) when Carey won his 100th at Ursuline, against Akron Hower. The team hoisted him on their shoulders after the game and dropped him plop right into the water soaked and muddy 50 yard line. In an newspaper he was asked what his first win was and he honestly couldn't remember. Yes, there was a Carey girl in everybody's class at UHS in those days. He was a native of New Castle, Pa. At "the academy" he won 2/3 of his games. His last game ('68) at the helm was against Struthers when the Irish did the impossible by ending the 'Cats winning streak over three seasons, 6-6 also in a sea of mud.
 
Cinciirish said:
I was at Rayen in '68 (a sea of mud) when Carey won his 100th at Ursuline, against Akron Hower. The team hoisted him on their shoulders after the game and dropped him plop right into the water soaked and muddy 50 yard line. In an newspaper he was asked what his first win was and he honestly couldn't remember. Yes, there was a Carey girl in everybody's class at UHS in those days. He was a native of New Castle, Pa. At "the academy" he won 2/3 of his games. His last game ('68) at the helm was against Struthers when the Irish did the impossible by ending the 'Cats winning streak over three seasons, 6-6 also in a sea of mud.
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Good stuff right there.
 
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