MAHONING VALLEY BOYS SCORES & DISCUSSION

YTOWN said:
I was a junior when Bill was a sr. He was 1st team All-State and he did average over 30 ppg as a sr. but I don't know the exact number. I want to say 31 but I'm not sure. I saw him score 42 in a tourney game that year but it wasn't one of his better shooting nights. He had about half of the total from the free throw line. I remember an article that Chuck Perazich of the Vindicator wrote about Mr. McMeans during his senior season and in the article coach Leach was quoted as saying McMeans was the best player he ever coached. I think the article said he was averaging about 34 or 35 ppg then but I am almost positive his final average was a little bit lower.

In the mid-70s I played in a league at the Pearl Street Mission, I think it was actually the Methodist Community Center on Pearl St. on the east side but most of the guys called it the Pearl St. Mission. A lot of former All-City players played in the league. The various McElroys, including John, played in the league. Tom Mobery from East, Dave Cousart from Rayen, Sam Scott from Ursuline, I want to say Amos Haynes from North, etc. Anyway, we had a very good shooting team but not much size so rebounding against those guys was a problem. Basically we got one shot and the other team got until it went in. :)

One of the guys got Mr. McMeans to join us but as you mentioned he didn't like playing in the post with his back to the basket, even though he was about 6'7." He just wanted to camp out in the corner and shoot jumpers, which he was deadly with. Also as you mentioned those would have all been three pointers now. As I was getting pummeled underneath fighting for a rebound at almost a foot shorter than Bill while he was firing from the corner I remember thinking something is wrong with this picture! :) I think we managed to win 3 or 4 games but wad a great time playing and then heading to the Royal Oaks afterward.
Click to expand...
Coach Leach let it be known that gym in North Lima was always open evenings in the summer and encouraged us to play with the city series guys. We'd see the McElroys, Sherman Smith, Rich Bevly, Mike Cobb, Edgar Jeffries,and others. They kicked our behinds, but it taught us another style than fixed pattern, screen & cutter basketball like most of us grew up with. One of the "visitors" was Billy Eckert who Rex would later bring on as assistant coach.
 
Treviscraft10 said:
Coach Leach let it be known that gym in North Lima was always open evenings in the summer and encouraged us to play with the city series guys. We'd see the McElroys, Sherman Smith, Rich Bevly, Mike Cobb, Edgar Jeffries,and others. They kicked our behinds, but it taught us another style than fixed pattern, screen & cutter basketball like most of us grew up with. One of the "visitors" was Billy Eckert who Rex would later bring on as assistant coach.
Click to expand...

I saw Mr. Jeffries score 50 against South. Mr. Eckert, along with John McElroy of course, was a member of some pretty good YSU teams in the late 60s. I always enjoyed watching the Guins at South and Struthers at that time. I saw Mr. McElroy score 52 to break the school single game record at Struthers and then 2 months later saw him shatter that with his 72-point performance vs. Wayne St. at South. Still the school record.
 
I attended the first round of the MLK Tribute Holiday Tournament at Ursuline yesterday afternoon, as I happened to be in Youngstown to visit family. The student bodies of all four schools (Ursuline, JFK, Urban Scholars, & Liberty) were missing almost entirely. An MLK Holiday Tribute Tournament is a wonderful idea and Ursuline should be commended. But the games were embarrassing mismatches with a running clock both 2nd halves. JFK has some real athletes but the Irish are in a category all their own. VERY talented. I have no idea how they had lost to Canfield last month. In the end probably a blessing as they know they are not invulnerable.
 
Jan 11
Heartland Christian @ East Palestine

Jan 13
Cardinal Mooney @ Ursuline ( postponed, Mooney players ill)
Chaney 61, @ East 34
Austintown Fitch 38, @ Howland 37
Campbell Memorial 61, Liberty 48
@ Girard 40, Poland 37 OT
South Range 53, @ Hubbard 49
Alliance 71, @Salem 43
@ Canfield 70, WGH 31
Jefferson 65, @ Struthers 57 OT
West Branch 52 @ Minerva 41
@ Steubenville 76, East Liverpool 67
@ Lisbon 64, East Palestine 26
Newton Falls 54, @ Brookfield 36
Lakeview 56, @ Niles McKinley 49
Jackson-Milton 59 Mineral Ridge 49
Lowellville 85, @ Waterloo 59

Jan 14
Hubbard 50, Western Reserve 38
Boardman 60 Howland 49
Valley Christian @ Heartland Christian
Brookfield 81 Champion 61
Chaney 61, Sharon PA Kennedy Catholic 38
East Palestine 57, Urban Scholars 34

Jan 15
@ Ursuline 85, Urban Scholars 21
JFK 76, Liberty 34

Jan 16
Liberty 53, Urban Scholars 31
Ursuline 88, JFK 60
 
Last edited:
Jan 17
Girard 66 Niles McKinley 37
WGH 63, Boardman 38
Canfield 54, Howland 51
South Range 38, Struthers 36
Chaney 51, North Canton Hoover 48
East Liverpool 72 Salem 69
Cardinal Mooney 69, Mineral Ridge 51
Hubbard 54, Jefferson 52
Poland 51 Lakeview 30
Austintown Fitch 65, Copley 47
Louisville St. Thomas Aquinas 77, Western Reserve 54
Brookfield 75, Garrettsville Garfield 70
Lowellville 59, Valley Christian 25
Pymatuning Valley 58, Bristol 47
Fairport Harbor Harding 59, Badger 56
Champion 48, Liberty 47
Mathews 55, Maplewood 40
LaBrae 64, Crestview 46
East 63, Urban Scholars 22 (4th game in 4 days for AUS)
 
Jan 18
Maplewood @ Brookfield
@ Newton Falls 60, Campbell Memorial 33

Jan 20
@ Ursuline 67, Austintown Fitch 50
East @ Boardman ppd
@ Cardinal Mooney 43, Howland 39
@ Struthers 56, Girard 54
Canfield 66, Chaney 58
@ Brookfield 59, Campbell Memorial 58 OT
@ South Range 58, Niles McKinley 45
@ Hubbard 55, Lakeview 39
West Branch 40, Marlington 37
East Liverpool 60, Indian Creek 42
Crestview 52, Liberty 39
Salem 59, @ Minerva 43
Marlington @ Chalker
@ LaBrae 63, Garrettsville Garfield 46
Jefferson 54, @ Poland 51
JFK 66 @ Southeast 42
Valley Christian 54, @ East Palestine 42
Western Reserve 50, Waterloo 43
Springfield Local 66, Sebring 36
@ McDonald 57, Mineral Ride 47
@ Lowellville 55, Jackson Milton 42
@ Badger 83, Lordstown 21
Wellsville 56, Southern 47
@ Bristol 64, Fairview Harbor Harding 45
Pymatuning Valley 63, Mathews 27
Windham 51, Maplewood 39

Jan 21
Canfield 54, @ Poland 47 OT
Canton Glen Oak 66 @ WGH 59
@ JFK 61, Canton Central Catholic 50
@ Smithville 40, Austintown Fitch 36
Heartland Christian 51, @ Badger 50
@ Salem 61, South Range 56
Grand Valley @ Pymatuning Valley
@ Newton Falls 69, @ Champion 46
Berkshire @ Chalker
@ Sebring 47, East Canton
@ Valley Christian 62, Medina Christian 19
 
Last edited:
Cinciirish said:
Jan 18
Maplewood @ Brookfield
Campbell Memorial @ Newton Falls

Jan 20
Austintown Fitch @ Ursuline
East @ Boardman
Howland @ Cardinal Mooney
Girard @ Struthers
Campbell Memorial @ Brookfield
Niles McKinley @ South Range
Lakeview @ Hubbard
Salem @ Minerva
Marlington @ Chalker
Garrettsville Garfield @ LaBrae
Jefferson @ Poland
JFK @ Southeast
Valley Christian @ East Palestine
Waterloo @ Western Reserve
Sebring @ Springfield Local
Mineral Ridge @ McDonald
Jackson Milton @ Lowellville
Lordstown @ Badger
Fairview Harbor Harding @ Bristol

Jan 21
Canfield @ Poland
Canton Glen Oak @ WGH
Canton Central Catholic @ JFK
Austintown Fitch @ Smithville
Heartland Christian @ Badger
South Range @ Salem
Grand Valley @ Pymatuning Valley
Champion @ Newton Falls
Berkshire @ Chalker
East Canton @ Sebring
Medina Christian @ Valley Christian
Click to expand...
Struthers - Girard is Game of the Week Friday. Might not be all that great of a game after all. Girard gets better each game.

Was watching several games last night. A couple freak things caught my eye.
1. YSN said it was Copley at Fitch. But what I saw looked more like a Fitch game vs. Howland instead. (Copley is the Indians but the team I saw playing said Tigers. And Copley's colors are blue and gold, not what you see there).
2. The YSN camera is always bad at Hubbard for some reason. Was particularly bad yesterday in Hubbard's huge upset. I guess I'm spoiled to the crystal-clear camera they use at Struthers Fieldhouse. Definitely a better broadcast than most others that they do.

I know I'm getting up there in the years, but I don't think my eyes are playing tricks on me or my monitor is on the blink.
 

Attachments

  • Fitch vs. somebody .png
    Fitch vs. somebody .png
    1 MB · Views: 28
  • Hubbard upset 54-52.png
    Hubbard upset 54-52.png
    515.1 KB · Views: 27
  • Final at Hubbard.png
    Final at Hubbard.png
    745.6 KB · Views: 30
Last edited:
Jan 23
Chaney @ Grand River Academy

Jan 24
Ursuline 68, @ Louisville St. Thomas Aquinas 35
Howland 56, @ East 31
@ Cardinal Mooney 61, Salem 38
Poland 60, Hubbard 41
Boardman 62, @ Massillon Washington 52
Brookfield 73, @ Liberty 46
@ Struthers 68, Niles McKinley 41
@ Campbell Memorial 49, Garrettsville Garfield 32
South Range 60, @ Girard 59
Wellsville 61, @ Columbiana 59
Lakeview @ Jefferson
Springfield Local 72, @ Mineral Ridge 50
Lowellville @ Western Reserve
East Palestine 28, @ Leetonia 20
@ LaBrae 41, @ Newton Falls 40
@ Heartland Christian 58, Urban Scholars 19
Lisbon @ Valley Christian
Maplewood @ Fairport Harbor Harding
@ Pymatuning Valley 79, Southington 44
McDonald 54, Waterloo 51
Crestview 65, Champion 38
Southington 68, United
 
Last edited:
Jan 25
Badger 66, Windham 64

Jan 27
@ Canfield 50, Austintown Fitch 42
Struthers 70, @ Hubbard 57
@ Howland 65, Boardman 56
Girard 52, Lakeview 28
@ Poland 37, Niles McKinley 34
@ Wheeling Park WV 72, East Liverpool 63
JFK 84, @ Rootstown 58
@ Lowellville 46, Springfield Local 22
@ Ursuline 67, Massillon Washington 46
@ Campbell Memorial 59, LaBrae 55
@ WGH 54, East 44
Cardinal Mooney 41, @ Canton Central Catholic 38
@ Carrollton 57, Salem 40
Alliance 56, @ West Branch 46
@ South Range 63, Jefferson 62
Pymatuning Valley @ Lordstown
Lutheran West @ Grand Valley
@ Jackson Milton 78, McDonald 70
Columbiana 56, @ Valley Christian 51
Brookfield 77, Crestview 58
Garrettsville Garfield 46, Champion 35
Mineral Ridge 54, Western Reserve 52
Wellsville 54, United 40
Mathews 54, Maplewood 48
Columbiana 56, Valley Christian 51

Jan 28
WGH 41, @ Cardinal Mooney 38
@ Chaney 61, @ South Range 52
@ Newton Falls 61, Liberty 27
@ JFK 71, Lakeview 33
@ Ravenna 50, West Branch 47
 
Last edited:
After a 0 - 5 start & lots of "drama", South Range has won something like 8 of the last 9 including wins against Struthers, Girard, and Jefferson. T.J. Irons seems to have flipped a switch...They have Chaney next.
 
Last edited:
Gentlemen,

I just saw that long time Lowellville hoops coach Dick Williams has passed away. He had some good Rocket teams. I know he had at least one undefeated regular season and won several ICL championships.

Condolences to his family & friends.
 
Jan 31
Austintown Fitch 57, @ Boardman 47
Poland 70, @ Struthers 60
Cardinal Mooney 68, @ East 42
@ Ursuline 66, Chaney 54
JFK 72, Cleveland Central Catholic 54
Howland 42 @ WGH 41
@ Hubbard 51, Niles McKinley 38
Campbell Memorial 54, @ Champion 45
Cleveland Central Catholic @ JFK
Marlington 75, @ Salem 63
Cadiz Harrison Central 71 @ East Liverpool 57
Carrollton 37 @ West Branch 35
@ Jefferson 51, Girard 35
@ Brookfield 81, LaBrae 61
South Range 51, @ Lakeview 33
@ Lowellville 69, @ McDonald 31
@ Springfield Local 53, Western Reserve 35
Sebring 44 @ Mineral Ridge 41
Maplewood 58, Badger 56
Wellsville 71, East Palestine 31
 
Last edited:
Feb 3
Girard 47, Hubbard 34
WGH 57, Austintown Fitch 45
Ursuline 55, Howland 33
at Chaney 86, East 67
Poland 55, South Range 46
Canfield 59, Boardman 47
West Branch 49, at Salem 47
Struthers 58, at Lakeview 49
Springfield Local 68, at Jackson-Milton 51
at Chalker 55, Lordstown 43
Bristol 74, Windham 66
LaBrae 84, Liberty 52
Fairport Harbor Harding 74, at Maplewood 65
Warren JFK 73, Mogadore 57
Garfield at Newton Falls
United 51 at East Palestine 31
Lowellville 57 at Sebring 28
Campbell Memorial 49, Crestview 47
Badger at Pymatuning Valley
Western Reserve 39 at McDonald 38
at Waterloo 64, Mineral Ridge 55
Southern 41, at Valley Christian 40
Jefferson Area 64, at Niles McKinley 44
Columbiana 55, Leetonia 23
Brookfield 79, at Champion 57
Mathews 54, Ashtabula St. John 26
 
Last edited:
Feb 4
@ Alliance 80, East Liverpool 70
Akron Archbishop Hoban 76, JFK 40
Cardinal Mooney 56, Sharon PA 35
WGH 62, Canton McKinley 45
Austintown Fitch 62, Canfield 61
South Range 35, Springfield Local 34
 
Last edited:
Feb 6
@ Boardman 58 East 53
@ Wellsville 67, Valley Christian 42

Feb 7
JFK 58 @ Howland 56
@ East Liverpool 53, Indian Creek 38
Campbell Memorial 37 @ Liberty 29
@ Ursuline 74, East 54
@ South Range 50, Hubbard 40
Jefferson 67, Struthers 47
Niles McKinley 63 @ Lakeview 55
@ Chaney 61 Cardinal Mooney 46
@ WGH 58, Canfield 56
@ Salem 61, Heartland Christian 59
@ Springfield Local 57, Waterloo 44
@ Poland 53, Girard 38
Crestview 62 @ Garrettsville Garfield 42
Grand Valley @ Kirtland
@ LaBrae 74, Champion 26
McDonald 56, Sebring 47
Badger 59, Mathews 51

Feb 8
Brookfield 53 @ Newton Falls 50

Feb 9
Chaney 64, Perry (Lake Co.) 52
 
Last edited:
Cinciirish said:
Feb 6
East @ Boardman

Feb 7
JFK @ Howland
Indian Creek @ East Liverpool
Campbell Memorial @ Liberty
East @ Ursuline
Hubbard @ South Range
Struthers @ Jefferson
Niles McKinley @ Lakeview
Cardinal Mooney @ Chaney
Canfield @ WGH
Heartland Christian @ Salem
Waterloo @ Springfield Local
Girard @ Poland

Feb 8
Brookfield @ Newton Falls

Feb 10
Cardinal Mooney @ Ursuline
Austintown Fitch @ Erie McDowell
Campbell Memorial @ Struthers
Girard @ West Branch
Hubbard @ Salem
WGH @ Boardman
Chaney @ Poland
McDonald @ Springfield Local
Howland @ Canfield
Mineral Ridge @ Jackson Milton

Feb 13
Ursuline @ Cardinal Mooney
Click to expand...
Feb 13 is the makeup game?
 
STEEL VALLEY CONFERENCE STANDINGS
Ursuline 6-0 19-1
Chaney 4-2 13-8
Mooney 1-5 11-10
East 1-5 8-11

URSULINE is SVC champion
 
Last edited:
Girard's loss to Poland the other night sets up a possible 3-way tie at the top of the NE-8. All other schools have finished their league schedule but South Range, which has been much improved the last 6 weeks, plays at Jefferson Tuesday night. A South Range win would result in the 3-way tie for the league championship among South Range, Girard, and Jefferson. A Jefferson victory would give them the title outright. Current standings:

NE-8 (2).png
 
Feb 10
@ Ursuline 66, Cardinal Mooney 49 (Irish clinch SVC title)
@ Erie McDowell 68, Austintown Fitch 48
Campbell Memorial 44, Newton Falls 41
@ West Branch 51, Girard 41
@ Salem 69, Hubbard 58
WGH 50, @ Boardman 42
Chaney 50, @ Poland 45
Struthers 65, Columbiana 44
Brookfield 61, @ Garrettsville Garfield 42
@ Louisville St. Thomas Aquinas 70, JFK 52
Heartland Christian @ Valley Christian
@ Springfield Local 64, McDonald 50
@ Canfield 49, Howland 30
Mineral Ridge 65 @ Jackson Milton 59
Liberty 48, Champion 44
Wellsville 93, Edison 61
Mathews 53, Ashtabula St. John 44
Western Reserve 62, Sebring 41
Pymatuning 68, Bristol 48
Badger 68, Windham 57

Feb 11
East 64, @ Lodi Cloverleaf 58
@ Gilmour Academy 74, JFK 63
East Liverpool 59, Weir WV 57
West Branch 64, @ Heartland Christian 57
Lordstown @ Lisbon

Feb 13
Ursuline 63 @ Cardinal Mooney 32
Chalkers @ Fairport Harbor Harding
Southern Local 49, East Palestine 29
 
Last edited:
RIP Don Bucci. Like me, Mr. Bucci was an eastsider (The Immaculate). He was a graduate of East High School. He brought Cardinal Mooney to the pinnacle of glory and is the 12th winningest football coach in Ohio. His teams were always solid in fundamentals and highly disciplined. His mission, like any good coach, was to turn boys into young men. And he did. Condolences to the Mooney family.
 
South Range beats Jefferson in OT, 48-45, resulting in a three-way tie for league champs in the Northeast-8 -- South Range, Jefferson, and Girard all finish with 10-4 conference records.

After a 1-6 start and their head coach and top assistant stepping aside after accusations of bullying, South Range completes a remarkable turnaround with an overall season record of 13-9.
 
Feb 14
Struthers 64, Campbell Memorial 52
South Range 48, Jefferson 45
JFK 75, Lowellville 74
WGH 80, East Liverpool 60
Mentor 71, Cardinal Mooney 45
Girard 54, Springfield Local 44
Canfield 66, Alliance 60
North Canton Hoover 61, Boardman 30
Austintown Fitch 52, North Royalton 50
Newton Falls 47, Niles McKinley 40
West Branch 52, Tuscarawas Central Catholic 50
Lakeview 60, McDonald 55
Beaver Local 58, Minerva 55
Salem 72, Western Reserve 46
Badger 75, Heartland Christian 71
Howland 66, Urban Scholars 17

Feb 15
Austinburg Grand River Academy @ Ursuline
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top