Inter-Valley Conference 2025

TCC v St Thomas battle of attrition!!!!!!!!
Lol the poor man's holy war rivalry. But realistically they are probably the only small division 6/division 7 school left in the area that isn't in the IVC. Tuslaw will never leave the PAC, and Mogadore is likely too far north for the IVC and I doubt the other schools would want them to join.
 
I think the best solution is to bring in Coshocton and River View for the big school division and bring in St Thomas Aquinas and get CV to come back for football for the small school division. These schools make the most sense logistically. Outside of those 4 schools, you would need to start looking at OVAC schools for the small school division and there aren't really any "big" small/medium sized schools in the area that would be open to leaving their conferences (Minerva maybe. Tuslaw and Fairless are very much happy in the PAC).
The other thing is if you could get 3 "big schools" like River View, Coshocton and Fairless for example you could kick Sandy Valley back to the North where they want to be anyways.

The problem though is this is only really an issue in football. Do you really need to expand the league to fix a problem in one or two weeks of the football season?

Also, schools like TCC and Strasburg can't really be counted on to have teams for the long term. Newcs has been there before as well.
 
The other thing is if you could get 3 "big schools" like River View, Coshocton and Fairless for example you could kick Sandy Valley back to the North where they want to be anyways.

The problem though is this is only really an issue in football. Do you really need to expand the league to fix a problem in one or two weeks of the football season?

Also, schools like TCC and Strasburg can't really be counted on to have teams for the long term. Newcs has been there before as well.
I think the league nearly splintered just a year or so ago so as an answer to your question is YES
And the solution you provided now makes it first come first serve kinda deal
 
I think the league nearly splintered just a year or so ago so as an answer to your question is YES
And the solution you provided now makes it first come first serve kinda deal
The league has had unprecedented success since the expansion a few years ago. If there is a common sense way to make it better then great but to make any sort of drastic change (like splintering) just because ADs either have a hard time finding an opponent or because a school has a difficult game two weeks a year would be pretty dumb.
 
The league has had unprecedented success since the expansion a few years ago. If there is a common sense way to make it better then great but to make any sort of drastic change (like splintering) just because ADs either have a hard time finding an opponent or because a school has a difficult game two weeks a year would be pretty dumb.
yes it happened
result
eliminated 2 mandatory crossovers

but I think you are on to something with the SV slide
elimination of crossovers is also achieved by going 8-8
 
yes it happened
result
eliminated 2 mandatory crossovers

but I think you are on to something with the SV slide
elimination of crossovers is also achieved by going 8-8
Don't the teams still have crossovers for week 5 next year?

Also, if the South went to 8 teams (let's imagine they added Coshocton & River View which I don't think will ever happen) what need would they have got the North?

They have 7 football games, 14 basketball, volleyball, baseball/softball games, they fill all 8 lanes at the track meet, etc.

If you are going to go to 8 teams in each division you might as well become two separate 8 team leagues.
 
Don't the teams still have crossovers for week 5 next year?

Also, if the South went to 8 teams (let's imagine they added Coshocton & River View which I don't think will ever happen) what need would they have got the North?

They have 7 football games, 14 basketball, volleyball, baseball/softball games, they fill all 8 lanes at the track meet, etc.

If you are going to go to 8 teams in each division you might as well become two separate 8 team leagues.
you aren't wrong
they argued from 2 crossovers to 1
and now some of those 1's aren't being played

yes it could be two diff leagues like you say
and it could be two diff leagues under same conference umbrella

why is getting to 8-8 such an awful thought?

I like the idea of adding teams
play your 7 and then some schools can maintain games in ooc. schools would only need to find those 3 games for football and youd have an increase of options in other sports and bigger events in the olympic invits meaning more money
 
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you aren't wrong
they argued from 2 crossovers to 1
and now some of those 1's aren't being played

yes it could be two diff leagues like you say
and it could be two diff leagues under same conference umbrella

why is getting to 8-8 such an awful thought?

I like the idea of adding teams
play your 7 and then some schools can maintain games in ooc. schools would only need to find those 3 games for football and youd have an increase of options in other sports and bigger events in the olympic invits meaning more money
The point of being in a league is playing each other. If you don't play each other, there's no point of being in a league together.

Once you get to 8 & 8 will there be any crossovers in any sport? You are already at 14 league games.

Having divisions is already goofy and because even more so when you never play teams from the other division.
 
The point of being in a league is playing each other. If you don't play each other, there's no point of being in a league together.

Once you get to 8 & 8 will there be any crossovers in any sport? You are already at 14 league games.

Having divisions is already goofy and because even more so when you never play teams from the other division.
my point is everyone doesnt play each other now....

the reason it would be good is for officiating reasons and to maintain the ooc geographic contests
 
Just saw that Kinsey got offered by Miami of Ohio. So far that's Miami, Toledo, Akron, and BG who have offered. I'm sure by the end of the year every MAC school will have offered. Does anyone know if he is being recruited as a RB or LB? I assume RB.
 
RB, I think he only plays LB out of necessity. I can’t imagine what he’d be able to do if he only played one side of the ball!
 
So my grandniece is a cheerleader for Newcomerstown. Last weekend they won the "IVC North" title at the league meet. Even though all the Ieague schools were there they still split it into a North champion and a South champion. Apparently they do the same thing for cross country, track, golf, etc.

So my point is basically the two divisions are already acting as separate leagues. If you add two teams to each to get them to 8 and you completely eliminate crossovers just become two separate leagues completely.

What would be the point?
 
I've listed several

brings ads together to allow local games to be maintained in OOC
creates pool of officials as commissioners are usually assigners
creates larger events such as the one you named and also in the olympic sports

if you're upset bout the split realize we are in the era of participation trophies

I bet the school that hosted made out in admission and concessions

then go 7-7
could easily with CV in the North and I think options in South

Why stay at 6-6???
 
I've listed several

brings ads together to allow local games to be maintained in OOC
creates pool of officials as commissioners are usually assigners
creates larger events such as the one you named and also in the olympic sports

if you're upset bout the split realize we are in the era of participation trophies

I bet the school that hosted made out in admission and concessions

then go 7-7
could easily with CV in the North and I think options in South

Why stay at 6-6???
You can schedule the same local games not being in the same league

They didn't really create larger events. The create two events in the same location at the same time. The North and South teams aren't actually competing against each other.

I agree with you about the school that hosted but if they were separate two schools would've made money with admission and concessions.

The officials part is about the only legitimate point and that is an important one

It's just really goofy to be in the same league and not actually compete against each other.

Personally I'd rather the North just become their own league. Take their current 6, ask SV, TV and CV to join. If you get two of them you have 8. Otherwise you just continue to live in the shadow of the South and be viewed as a JV league.
 
You can schedule the same local games not being in the same league

They didn't really create larger events. The create two events in the same location at the same time. The North and South teams aren't actually competing against each other.

I agree with you about the school that hosted but if they were separate two schools would've made money with admission and concessions.

The officials part is about the only legitimate point and that is an important one

It's just really goofy to be in the same league and not actually compete against each other.

Personally I'd rather the North just become their own league. Take their current 6, ask SV, TV and CV to join. If you get two of them you have 8. Otherwise you just continue to live in the shadow of the South and be viewed as a JV league.
that nearly happened in recent past
I think we aren't as far apart as you think

If the south went ahead and made their own league the same could happen, what stops them from dragging along the north?
maybe your opinion should turn its gaze to getting the schools for the south to have options - keep the north or do their(south) own thing
or the league could benefit by going 8-8 in the ways I speak

what you say is no big deal in my list are benefits. I've heard the arguments from each side over the years

Love to see Coshocton in the league. Neighbors to Garaway and Ridgewood and fits with IV and Claymont. West Holmes COULD be another candidate to fit
 
My question is

all teams don't play each other now....
so that part of your argument is void

The north schools were going to split and the south made two crossovers down to one and now thats optional

why did the south stop the split and compromise?

maybe because they don't want a split
 
There are quite a few conferences in northeast Ohio who have 16 teams and never have crossovers. I know the Suburban League and the league Kirtland is in comes to mind.
 
It's been brought up before but would adding River View and Coshocton be a viable option to eliminate crossovers? If my memory serves there was a rumor the league reached out to Coshocton... Again just a rumor but I vaguely remember that talk. Would they be able to poach them? would it be effective? would it cause more problems? just curious.
Honestly, why would River View join the IVC? Their main sport is soccer and the IVC doesn't have soccer as a sport. Also, River View is really bad at football. Do they really want to play the IVC South schedule?
 
Just saw that Kinsey got offered by Miami of Ohio. So far that's Miami, Toledo, Akron, and BG who have offered. I'm sure by the end of the year every MAC school will have offered. Does anyone know if he is being recruited as a RB or LB? I assume RB.
Just out of curiosity, who are the most recruited players in IVC history?

Obviously, Kinsey is a stud but the Congdon kid from Tusky Valley is getting major offers from P4 and CPF playoff teams. Just curious what other big time recruits have played in the IVC
 
Just out of curiosity, who are the most recruited players in IVC history?

Obviously, Kinsey is a stud but the Congdon kid from Tusky Valley is getting major offers from P4 and CPF playoff teams. Just curious what other big time recruits have played in the IVC
Off the top of my head it has to be Joel Honigford from Garaway. He ended up going to Michigan but was offered by every Big Ten team, and most SEC/Big 12 teams.

If we want to go further back, there is Jake Miller from Tusky Valley, who ended up going to WV, but they were in the PAC at the time so I don't know if that counts.
 
Off the top of my head it has to be Joel Honigford from Garaway. He ended up going to Michigan but was offered by every Big Ten team, and most SEC/Big 12 teams.

If we want to go further back, there is Jake Miller from Tusky Valley, who ended up going to WV, but they were in the PAC at the time so I don't know if that counts.
Thought there was a young man that went to Michigan State from Ridgewood a little while back.
 
My daughter in law told me tonight that Tusky Valley is starting the process of getting turf for their football field.
 
So It might get killed before the informational meeting?

I don't think that's the case but I was told this went from a BOE funded project to a donations based project in a few weeks.

Maybe the community will be able to raise the money. I think it would be surprising if they did.
 
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