http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/20481427/report-terry-francona-to-manage-indians
Well isn't this interesting!
Well isn't this interesting!
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Indians To Hire Terry Francona
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Tree of Knowledge
I'm on probation
Condolences to Terry.
Clyde Frog
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Love it. First legitimate manager the Indians have had since Mike Hargrove.
I'm pretty sure Charlie Manuel was a legitimate manager for the tribe
Clyde Frog
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Manuel didn't do much as manager of the Indians. One playoff appearance, which is how many times Eric Wedge took the Indians to the playoffs. Manuel didn't have success until he became manager in Philadelphia where he won the World Series in 2008 and the National League Championship in 2009.
Eric Wedge 561-595 493 winning percentage
Charlie Manuel 220-190 537 winning percentage
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Clyde Frog
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Ok. :shrug: Manuel still took Cleveland to only one playoff appearance, just like Wedge. Manuel just has happened to have (much) more success since leaving Cleveland.
So if Francona doesn't have success with the Tribe does that make him not a legitimate manager?
Clyde Frog
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No. You're missing my point. Going into his time with the Indians, Charlie Manuel had accomplished nothing. Literally. And while he was there, he managed the team to one playoff appearance, which isn't any better than what Eric Wedge accomplished. Manuel's success happened after he left Cleveland, not before or during. Going into his first season with the Tribe, Francona has already won two World Series titles. He has the best résumé, by far, of any new Indians manager since Hargrove. That's my point.
Leopard_Fan
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Until the Indians get an owner and a front office that is committed to spending some money to build the team to be successful over the long term, it may not matter much who the manager is. For over the past decade, as soon as they've gotten some talented young players that either start winning or show potential, they either trade them or lose them to free agency because they're too cheap to shell out the bucks to sign them to long term deals in the prime of their careers. It seems like the few decent players they have kept around long term tend to get injured (Grady Sizemore, Travis Hafner, etc.).
They may have an occasional good year or two here and there, but that type of stuff prevents them from being successful consistently over the long haul regardless of who the manager is. While Francona is defintely a better manager than Acta and has the track record to prove it, that doesn't necessarily mean he'll be overly successful if the front office doesn't give him some decent players to work with.
They may have an occasional good year or two here and there, but that type of stuff prevents them from being successful consistently over the long haul regardless of who the manager is. While Francona is defintely a better manager than Acta and has the track record to prove it, that doesn't necessarily mean he'll be overly successful if the front office doesn't give him some decent players to work with.